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The Wicked ZOGA posted:They're fronting like this Marques bloke is single-handedly killing the company but I watched his review yesterday and he was talking about the AI learning to use apps, and he casually mentioned banking apps as an example and it's like loving pardon?? You don't think it's worth expanding on that? Maybe he thinks it speaks for itself Giving AI access to your finances is a great idea. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/04/customers-say-metas-ad-buying-ai-blows-through-budgets-in-a-matter-of-hours/
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May 1, 2024 12:51
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Runa posted:I've never read the books but I got the impression the ideas of the final season could've worked there but the show had been on a downswing for a while and fumbled the ball on doing the basic narrative footwork to deliver them. There's a pretty big missing section of the books (there's a whole other army that claims to be lead by a Targaryen and actually successfully invades before Dany) which that presumed to be what tips Dany over the edge in GRRM's never-to-be-written version
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May 1, 2024 12:52
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lol the sand snake subplot in GoT
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May 1, 2024 13:15
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the Cardmarket folks play a Magic deck against a Pokemon deck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpCHohxwvPY&hd=1
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May 1, 2024 13:21
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Jauwn covers another crypto card game that has earned about ~120 million dollars in VC funding + crypto card sales and has had about 5000 players ever. Jesus Christ what a world. Embed seems to be blocked for some reason - "Worst NFT Game Ever? | Parallel TCG Gameplay and Review" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HamjXDC8Qhc
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May 1, 2024 13:43
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Jauwn will never again reach the height of that time he helped the Red Eclipse people take control of the stolen NFT game. Where do you even go from there?
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May 1, 2024 14:21
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:I think a editor with a strong hand could have pushed him through that though. The later books get stuck in that mud and a decent editor could have pushed back before they were published and got him to make a solid plan. I don’t know if an editor in particular could help push him through that. Maybe anyone else he could bounce ideas off of would be useful? But I don’t know what George’s writing process was like either. I don’t think the state of the book series is unsolvable. It’s more like Stephen King’s Dark Tower books where at this point so much time has passed that it’s practically a different person writing them anyway and that’s going to change a lot. Doctor Spaceman posted:There's a pretty big missing section of the books (there's a whole other army that claims to be lead by a Targaryen and actually successfully invades before Dany) which that presumed to be what tips Dany over the edge in GRRM's never-to-be-written version Yeah there’s this whole side issue that isn’t discussed as much with the books where book 3 sweeps a ton of the major players off the field and wipes out significant POV characters. Books 4 and 5 were slow bulding up new POVs and related factions who will probably be vital to driving interesting drama and shift the established POV characters’ motivations, and the TV series either cut those plots entirely or killed off everyone involved and made the whole thing a narrative dead end. Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 18:44 on May 1, 2024 |
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May 1, 2024 16:39
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The funny thing is GRRM posts all the time about how he’s written more words than ever each year, which I’m convinced he says at this point just to frustrate fans.
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May 1, 2024 16:58
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I remember - I think it was - Neil Gaiman saying "George Martin is not your bitch" back when people were acting much more entitled to having the next book right now but today I genuinely don't know anybody who still really cares and I know a lot of folks who dug the books.
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May 1, 2024 17:03
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Oh yeah I completely forgot about Faegon, that was a massive sideplot to cut considering how much it was obviously going to screw with Dany's head. There's also stuff like the Jeyne Poole being propped up as a fake Arya to solidify the Bolton's rule (cut so Sansa could become a rape victim, thanks D&D!) Mance surviving his execution and becoming an undercover asset for Jon (which means less Ciarán Hinds, an unforgivable crime) Euron Greyjoy actually being an insane outside scope threat who's dabbling in straight up Cthulhu magic and has likely found a way to bend Dany's dragons to his will (changed to him being a stereotypical pirate blowhard who's whole character motivation is "I want to gently caress the queen") the list just goes on and on. And it's not even like any of this was excised to make way for better plots because what we got in its place was like, the sand snakes.
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May 1, 2024 17:08
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Dawgstar posted:I remember - I think it was - Neil Gaiman saying "George Martin is not your bitch" back when people were acting much more entitled to having the next book right now but today I genuinely don't know anybody who still really cares and I know a lot of folks who dug the books. I used to work with someone who was extremely offended by Gaiman saying this.
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May 1, 2024 17:09
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Dawgstar posted:I remember - I think it was - Neil Gaiman saying "George Martin is not your bitch" back when people were acting much more entitled to having the next book right now but today I genuinely don't know anybody who still really cares and I know a lot of folks who dug the books. If the remaining books came out I'd be excited to read them, but it's pretty obvious that they're never coming out.
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May 1, 2024 17:24
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CaptainRat posted:I used to work with someone who was extremely offended by Gaiman saying this. Was it John Romero
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May 1, 2024 17:42
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Sydin posted:And it's not even like any of this was excised to make way for better plots because what we got in its place was like, the sand snakes. I genuinely love that they spent so much of their budget filming in Spain, and they spent so long getting permission to use the Alhambra gardens as a location that they had to justify it by having ~1/3 of a season shot in one courtyard, and in the end all they had to show for it was "you love the bad poosi" and two scenes in the next season that basically amount to "we're not shooting here again" and "we're not seeing these characters again". really wish I could have witnessed D&D bring that kind of energy to their confederate fantasy.
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May 1, 2024 18:10
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People have since switched over to waiting until GRRM dies and someone else can finish them.
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May 1, 2024 18:14
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GRRM can't die, he's powered by Bayonne Sludge, he's basically a Muk in a human costume
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May 1, 2024 18:17
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They forgot about the iron fleet
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May 1, 2024 18:27
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Sydin posted:Oh yeah I completely forgot about Faegon, that was a massive sideplot to cut considering how much it was obviously going to screw with Dany's head. Yeah those plus obliterating the whole House Dorne who included two new POV characters and who were just winding up to make a big revenge power play when you run out of books. And whatever crazy poo poo was going to happen with Zombie Cat/Lady Stoneheart. And House Manderly were being set up as the guys who come in from the north at the last minute with a steel chair (making baby Rickon Stark matter at all lol.) It was basically another 5 seasons worth of plot but there was no plan to stick to and everyone was offering big sacks of money to the showrunners to do more projects so rip. Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 18:36 on May 1, 2024 |
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May 1, 2024 18:34
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Sydin posted:Oh yeah I completely forgot about Faegon, that was a massive sideplot to cut considering how much it was obviously going to screw with Dany's head. They cut out virtually all the North remembers stuff so on the show it's like nobody cares that the Red Wedding occurred. It falls in line with the show going from being more about the politics of the society to the personal which culminates in Arya personally killing the Freys rather than Manderly and other loyalists chipping away at the Freys. I think Lindsay Ellis discussed it in one of her videos about the show but it's a huge reason why the show fell off a cliff after season 4 despite reviewing very well until the final season. I remember being excited for the first time in awhile when Cersei blew up the sept because surely that would be her undoing as the political consequences come crashing down on her head but it turned out it'd just be some rocks much later and the Lannisters are somehow unbeatable until the very end. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 19:36 on May 1, 2024 |
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May 1, 2024 19:34
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And they cut out Vary's merman subplot
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May 1, 2024 19:51
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New Jon Bois documentary about the history of the Reform Party: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqqaW1LrMTY
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May 1, 2024 19:57
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D'Angelo Wallace on... someone I've never heard of but will watch anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9dQJJfLZmo
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May 1, 2024 20:11
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keep punching joe posted:Giving AI access to your finances is a great idea. So if I’m reading this correctly Facebook’s pivot to AI hype has resulted in a computer program that advertisers can use to give as much of their money to Facebook as possible, as fast as possible? You know, it is pretty astounding how the “enshittification” hypothesis continues to be proven more and more convincingly. Oh by the way, the creator of that term wrote an excellent article about it somewhat recently. It was very enlightening for me. Check it out. quote:Fifty per cent of web users are running ad blockers. Zero per cent of app users are running ad blockers, because adding a blocker to an app requires that you first remove its encryption, and that’s a felony. (Jay Freeman, the American businessman and engineer, calls this “felony contempt of business-model”.)
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May 1, 2024 20:32
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My favourite asoiaf book is Elden Ring.
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May 1, 2024 21:19
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It is kind of funny the current last chapter in the books is Dany just making GBS threads in a field.
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May 1, 2024 21:52
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bobjr posted:It is kind of funny the current last chapter in the books is Dany just making GBS threads in a field. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmKhGqWcJGY
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May 1, 2024 22:14
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Ariong posted:So if I’m reading this correctly Facebook’s pivot to AI hype has resulted in a computer program that advertisers can use to give as much of their money to Facebook as possible, as fast as possible? You know, it is pretty astounding how the “enshittification” hypothesis continues to be proven more and more convincingly. I'm gonna be honest: Speaking from experience a not insignificant percentage the people who run Facebook Ads are terminally lazy and kind of sketchy. Digital advertising is already set up that it doesn't require a lot of investment after you've initially set it up, so it's kind of a magnet for the type of person who salivates at the mention of "passive income". bobjr posted:It is kind of funny the current last chapter in the books is Dany just making GBS threads in a field. It's times like these I'm glad I got invested in Joe Abercrombie instead...
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May 1, 2024 22:24
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I'm six books in and six behind. Abercrombie has a work ethic and he finishes his stories. I gave up on Sanderson because his work was too bloated, sexless, and mechanical for my taste.
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May 1, 2024 22:26
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Inspector Gesicht posted:I gave up on Sanderson because his work was too bloated, sexless, and mechanical for my taste. It was so funny when his fans got mad at that article written by a guy who spent some days with him and came away thinking Sanderson was a great big nothing.
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May 1, 2024 22:33
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Inspector Gesicht posted:I'm six books in and six behind. Abercrombie has a work ethic and he finishes his stories. Sanderson is a very odd duck in that his work feels like the product of a writer who doesn't actually want to be a novelist. I've enjoyed the work of his that I've read thus far, but it feels like it adheres way too strictly to the standard screenwriter's 3/4/5 act structure which, coupled with his frequently awkward, workmanlike prose, really gives the impression he'd prefer to be a screenwriter. I find it can be frustrating trying to discuss the shortcomings of his prose with his more diehard fans because they always fall back to a concept he discusses in interviews about his work being "window pane" prose as opposed to "stained glass" prose which presents the very weird idea that prose is some kind of impediment to storytelling? It also seems to try to deflect from his shortcomings by presenting prose as this binary between overwrought and the clunky minimalism Sanderson trafficks in, which doesn't really hold up, in my estimation, because there are a number of other authors out there who write very clear, minimalist, to-the-point prose without falling into the pitfalls Sanderson does. What I will grant him is that his writing works really well for action scenes, it just tends to fall apart whenever he has to write anything involving human emotion or conversation. Overall I think a lot of his problems as a writer are the result of him rushing through the later stages of the process to maintain his ridiculous output rate, and he'd would really benefit from slowing the gently caress down and focusing more on editing his first drafts.
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May 1, 2024 22:38
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if Sanderson wrote tabletop modules or worked on Baldurs Gate 4 I think he'd be great, but I cannot understand why he has fans otherwise.
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May 1, 2024 22:47
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Famethrowa posted:if Sanderson wrote tabletop modules or worked on Baldurs Gate 4 I think he'd be great, but I cannot understand why he has fans otherwise. whenever i hear people praise his books "the magic system" always comes up, which tells me everything i need to know about why people like his books
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May 1, 2024 22:48
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Groovelord Neato posted:It was so funny when his fans got mad at that article written by a guy who spent some days with him and came away thinking Sanderson was a great big nothing. Don't leave me hanging. Link?
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May 1, 2024 22:51
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Famethrowa posted:if Sanderson wrote tabletop modules or worked on Baldurs Gate 4 I think he'd be great, but I cannot understand why he has fans otherwise. Given the way I've seen them talk about his work and respond to criticisms of his prose, I get the impression a not insignificant portion of his fanbase aren't the most well-read overall. Like whenever the workmanlike nature of his prose comes up there's almost always at least one fan who seems to think "good prose" means "purple prose". His writing also has a very "YA" vibe to it and often goes out of its way to explicitly state things that would often be left as subtext in other fantasy works, which probably helps to make the books more accessible to people who are turned away from more challenging reads. On the more positive end of the spectrum - I think he legitimately has some very interesting ideas in the worldbuilding and cosmology of his work (Though I do think he has some issues as a worldbuilder from an execution standpoint) and, as I said earlier, his writing really shines during action scenes.
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May 1, 2024 22:55
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he should go harder on mormon parallels
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May 1, 2024 22:55
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Groovelord Neato posted:It was so funny when his fans got mad at that article written by a guy who spent some days with him and came away thinking Sanderson was a great big nothing. i think you are misrepresenting the tone and contents of that article lol. it was bizarre, seething contempt at the guy for not being interesting enough. serious "bitch eating crackers" syndrome
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May 1, 2024 23:12
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Don't leave me hanging. Link? https://www.wired.com/story/brandon-sanderson-is-your-god/
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May 1, 2024 23:14
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I read a couple of his books and they didn't do much of anything for me. He could afford to cut the length of his books in half. It's not as bad as Jordan's bloated books but you do feel their length. To switch gears, does anyone remember which Best of the Worst episode where they watch a video from that gun nut that destroyed a car with a M2 Browning machine gun? I remember getting a real good laugh out of that episode and I need something like that today.
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May 1, 2024 23:42
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Farg posted:i think you are misrepresenting the tone and contents of that article lol. it was bizarre, seething contempt at the guy for not being interesting enough. serious "bitch eating crackers" syndrome It's interesting that someone so ridiculously successful is a great big nothing. I love hating so the article was good. I don't doubt the article writer is jealous of his success I would be if writing was my job. I'm jealous he can write so quickly regardless of quality.
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May 1, 2024 23:46
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KingKalamari posted:Sanderson is a very odd duck in that his work feels like the product of a writer who doesn't actually want to be a novelist. I've enjoyed the work of his that I've read thus far, but it feels like it adheres way too strictly to the standard screenwriter's 3/4/5 act structure which, coupled with his frequently awkward, workmanlike prose, really gives the impression he'd prefer to be a screenwriter. I find it can be frustrating trying to discuss the shortcomings of his prose with his more diehard fans because they always fall back to a concept he discusses in interviews about his work being "window pane" prose as opposed to "stained glass" prose which presents the very weird idea that prose is some kind of impediment to storytelling? It also seems to try to deflect from his shortcomings by presenting prose as this binary between overwrought and the clunky minimalism Sanderson trafficks in, which doesn't really hold up, in my estimation, because there are a number of other authors out there who write very clear, minimalist, to-the-point prose without falling into the pitfalls Sanderson does. What I will grant him is that his writing works really well for action scenes, it just tends to fall apart whenever he has to write anything involving human emotion or conversation. Overall I think a lot of his problems as a writer are the result of him rushing through the later stages of the process to maintain his ridiculous output rate, and he'd would really benefit from slowing the gently caress down and focusing more on editing his first drafts. I read Mistborn, or the first novel, and never bothered with another because even after that I couldn't tell you anything about Min as a person without using very boring adjectives like 'diligent, I guess.' Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 00:06 on May 2, 2024 |
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