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Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Yvonmukluk posted:

The Halloween BOTL is up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXWTfamqgMg
I'd watch Night of 1000 Pomeranians.

http://www.pepperonipizzapiepeephole.com/

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Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Violence is just going to par for the course. Those who have power will not let go of it willingly. Most anarchists don't want or look forward to the violence but they all see it as a preamble, not the actual revolution itself. The best I've seen it described, at least the way that stuck with me, is Berkman called it "rolling up your sleeves for work." The revolution being the work you do while the violence is the thing you do before you get started.

In current events, the violence was thrust upon us by the state and those who hold the levers of power.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Nothing wrong with those garbage ape tweets. Those people are shmucks screaming into the void. Why is one wearing a MAGA hat? Feels like it was staged to give FOX news some sensationalist dirt to run against the BLM protests.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Dabir posted:

Beau is also right, but a little bit angrier than Shaun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c66IQQrmXeo

Beau's great. I highly recommend all his videos. Very insightful and bite-sized!

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Sarcopenia posted:

Allison Pregler has a good retrospective series on the old Charm show. She goes into what was going on behind the scenes too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3rrnJExXbY

Been binging through the episodes and it's fascinating to watch her get more and more irate as the seasons go on. Alyssa Milano's character has the exact same arc as Alyssa Milano. If you want to see a selfish, worthless liberal then read any one of her political takes.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Sarcopenia posted:

Whenever I see any dumb rear end lib take from Milano I always think of the background happenings on Charmed and her as a Project Runway (which is especially funny if you've seen Allison's Charmed videos). She honestly just seems so absolutely full of herself.

It got so bad that Rose McGowan, who had (has?) some problematic views, came out and told her blow it out of her rear end. Especially when she started to discard the MeToo movement when her candidate of choice turn out to be a sex pest predator.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Bakeneko posted:

My main objection to this is when he said his video wouldn't be as fun as PT's. No way; his understated humor and occasional Simpsons clips are way more entertaining that PT's inane shtick.

Otherwise, good video.

Yeah, I fell off of PT when he started doing those skits. I'm glad he found his style and enjoys doing it but they're just not for me. Same reason, among others, why I don't watch Contra's videos anymore.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

The trouble is with socialist youtubers is that they have to condense down decades of theory and discussion into bite-sized chunks. The formations of a socialist society, the problems that's arise in it, how it would come about and all that jazz have been talked about forever and, from an anarchist point of view, no one person would have all the answers. It's why councils exist. It's like a bunch of experts talking through a problem, if not experts then members of the community. Like the response video did the liberal thing of "ok, well, what about the logistics of it?" and the best response would be "I'm not the one who can answer that but I can give you an idea of how one might be found" and then you'd describe how worker councils and communes have worked forever.

Jimbot fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Nov 12, 2020

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Nuns with Guns posted:

Only 7.3 more lunar rotations before the next voices of a generation emerge from humble PornHub channels, as foretold by the sages.

Discussing theory while eating rear end is praxis.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Garrand posted:

Honestly this is the pitfall of our entire video essay culture at the moment. There's tons of people trying to distill down a history's worth of information into videos that can appeal to wide swaths of people since making more niche / targeted but more technically accurate videos won't support a person. It's okay for cultural critics for movies and games and poo poo (although again, cultivating an audience large enough to live off of can put some hard limits on things) but not so much for more educational or ideological stuff.

Yeah, you really have to laser-focus on certain topics. Then which geographical location because European socialists are a bit different than South American socialists and of ones from Asia.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Anything that turns food into chemistry is endlessly fascinating to me. It's like something you'd buy out of a dingy vending machine in a cyberpunk dystopia, or something served to you by aliens who tried to figure out what humans eat by reading your mind.

Honestly, food is a minor miracle in of itself. The amount of food science all of humankind has accumulated and shared is an incredible thing to think about. Just think about the ingredients of a cake: where the come from, how they're processed, how it's all prepared and cooked. Some of those ingredients are continents apart and it took generations of people "well, what if I took this plant, distilled it down to a coarse sand-like form, then took another plant ground it down to a fine powder, combined it with the milk from a cow, eggs from a chicken then baked it at this temperature for a this amount of time."

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008


Poor Arthur. He's legitimately disturbed and is being denied the sort of care he needs by an uncaring system. Bob chooses to be prick with awful views of the poor and rural America, especially in the South.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

I never liked boob armor, I think the design is junk in general. There are a million and one ways to bring out characterization in armor instead of boys wear blue sashes and girls wear pink bows. It's doubly bad since the Armorer exists. The real criticism is that the show isn't about the Armorer and is instead about a boring wanderer escorting merchandising.

https://twitter.com/leslieleeiii/status/1328004014601097218

That aside, this is basically how I feel.

On the subject of the Armorer, the stuntlady who did that really good fight in season 1 broke down how they shot it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9Oa4rCROXM

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Monster Hunter sure does like exposing thighs, that's for sure.

Take this cold weather outfit, it's cold out! [armor has no pants, exposing the hunter's thighs]

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

https://twitter.com/unaloid/status/1329846913173221380

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Microcline posted:

My disagreement with McCloud is that I think Snyder is a Randian who glorifies and fetishizes graphic violence, and that provides a very clean explanation for why he hosed up Watchmen in the way that he did.

You're inventing some made up fantasy about a director in order to reinforce your opinion of his work while McCloud is offering their reading of the film as they saw it. It's just much easier to say you didn't like the film because you think the source material is unassailable and unadaptable and Zack Snyder's interpretation of that work wasn't to your liking.

It's super easy and makes talking about those films less like pulling teeth and more like general film discussion because headcanon strawmen aren't being brought into the equation.

"I didn't like Watchmen because Zack Snyder's slick direction of the hyper-violent action doesn't support that it's a deconstruction of superhero violence. He failed to communicate that because of how focused it was on its own style."

Is much more believable than "he's a secret randian who gets off at violence and destruction" that weirdos like to go on about. And really, as someone who really doesn't give a poo poo about Watchmen, the argument for both points of how it's too slick and betrays the point its trying to make or how that slick violence is what hits home that point really do make sense for me. Most criticisms, valid or more of that radian nonsense, I see just stem insufferable comic nerds clutching their crusted copies of Watchmen close to their chests, bemoaning "he didn't get it!!!!!!!" the same way Snyder hardcores do to just about any critic.


Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Really, the problem with adaptations of Watchmen is that they’re all done by huge loving nerds who treat it with reverence that is not appropriate. The best parts of the HBO sequel are when they’re making the characters from the original look like stupid assholes.


This show's some hardcore copaganda. I liked it well enough and the show treating the original characters like baffoons was definitely my favorite part. They were just old and tired and done with everything which made them so incompetent.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Mr Phillby posted:

I'm sure I'm being Uncharitable or I missed a line somewhere that handwaves it or whatever but I really don't understand how you can make a film obstensably about batman and superman needing to fight, and making the story be about a batman who's been driven to use extremely violent methods to facilitate that only to 1) not really explore what made batman that way and 2) blackmail superman into fighting batman so as to not explore their actual conflict before hand waving it away and they're friends now.

Why is superman cool with batman having murdered a bunch of people? Why isn't batman in jail? I thought this was mature lasting consequences for violence town for clever adults now?

9/11, Joker killing Robin, disillusionment with his own vigilantism. When Bruce is talking with Alfred in the ruins of Wayne manner, he talks about how criminals are like weeds and how the only meaningful thing he'll ever do is kill Superman. That's how Batman got that way. It's one of the few things that was pretty clear in the theatrical cut, which was basically all about Batman. The second point is lost, though. It's why the Ultimate Edition is better because it explores why Superman has a problem with Batman. In the beginning of the film he has that one guy dead to rights and still decides to brand him. It wasn't out of self-defense it was just an act of cruelty, which Alfred berates him for.

I mean, you have a point about random mooks but it does attempt to reconcile this in that these people Batman are fighting are using overwhelming lethal force. Every time Batman confronts them they have hardware that'd make the US military blush with envy and each takedown is Batman targeting the machinery they are wielding and not the wielder itself. I get that you don't accept that, which is cool and to each their own, but the film does make an attempt to address the lethal use of force Batman uses compared to, say, Iron Man flying to the Middle East and selectively icing a bunch of armed people holding hostages. It's why you probably don't have human enemies all that often after the first Iron Man and why parademons are the orcs in Justice League.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

JustaDamnFool posted:

I know its easy to be glib about the popular opinion on something being poorly informed, but I feel like if you have to spend substanial amounts of text explaining to each new person that a peice of media has certain themes, those themes might of been poorly communicated in the first place.

Nah. By this metric there's nothing wrong with any piece of media ever because you have to spend a substantial amount of text explaining to each new person that there's something wrong with it.

That's just something to stifle a discussion and presents one side as being defensive and irrational.

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

I'm sorry you shouldn't have started with this cause the idea of someone saying "The film doesn't do a great job exploring the character and their motivation outside of a few background elements and, largely, leaving the viewer to imagine whatever they need to to make sense" and the response is "9/11 Did it!" is....the funniest poo poo.

I mean, that's what people, and that post, are referring that event to and the imagery isn't exactly subtle. After 9/11 the US government enacted the worst piece of privacy destroying and civil liberty infringing piece of legislation in history with the majority backing of the US population. Even being remotely critical of the US during this time was met with some pretty severe hostility. It's not exactly a stretch to say "this world's version of 9/11 broke a man".

Jimbot fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Nov 28, 2020

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

Yes I know. That's why I said I was reacting to how you said it. You could have said "The events of the previous film" or something but just going "9/119." up front was funny.

Ah, gotcha. I guess it is kinda silly, but I figured I'd just use brevity in that case. Zack Snyder isn't exactly subtle with his imagery and people hate that but I find it pretty endearing.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Fair enough. Just replace text with youtube videos that take hours or days to make and you'll see where I'm coming from. I don't agree with what you posted because even if I don't at all agree with youtube critics' videos on Zack Snyder's films, they had something to say about it and their opinion is just as valid as those who argue that his films try to say something about superheroes but do so on a comedy forum in text form.

We all like films and we want them to be to our liking and discussing them, regardless of how heated it may get, is always a good thing. It's just some films and directors are more tiring than others because neither party likes to shut up about them. And this is coming form someone who can't shut up about them.


So anyway, how about them Star Wars.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Mr Phillby posted:

Also hearty lol at "they're using military grade araments against him" when talking about the version of batman who brands criminals with a hot iron so that they get shanked in jail.

I mean, both happen in the film.

But I digress, I just disagree with you and I'm honestly tired of discussing in a thread about online creators. I can watch the film again and cite every example that I think supports my point and you'll reject them just as I reject your Iron Man example or vise versa. It's fine. You didn't obviously didn't think it was good enough, I obviously did. We'll talk about it until we're blue in the face but it just won't convince either of us. Since this is a youtube creator thread this conversation will inevitably happen again when a creator will make their obligatory Zack Snyder video. Or until our friend McCloud posts again, who has an unending fountain of will to draw upon for discussing this stuff around here.

Edit: That's not to dismiss your effort post there. I appreciate it a ton! It's just that this derail can get out of hand and if you want to get the last words in I won't have any follow ups.

Jimbot fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Nov 28, 2020

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Schwarzwald posted:

You joke but there's almost assuredly better versions of at least a few of the Disney films locked in the back of some store room. At the very least there's a mostly complete Lord and Miller Solo cut that we poor bastards are never going to get.

There has to be one for The Last Jedi. That film is super frustrating to me. Going by his other films, Rian Johnson doesn't seem like a director who doesn't follow up on ideas but the way that film is put together just undercuts itself all the time. At least I hope there is. He really does have the benefit of the doubt because of who owns Star Wars.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

How's the second season of the Mandalorian? I liked the first season well enough though I didn't think it was anything super amazing. Just a well-made neato thing.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

On the subject of Hbombguy. Rip big tiddies

https://twitter.com/Hbomberguy/status/1332901236362895362

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

It's perfectly fine to be interested in the Roman empire but I feel like a lot of people who like that period of time never learn that empires are bad, actually.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

https://twitter.com/TimPoolClips/status/1333877963792769030

Laffo. Don't be surprised if you start seeing Pim Tool's sewerage showing up in your feed even if you keep clear of political videos.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Nah, we already had one.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

I have to give that show a watch. By all accounts it's really good. I grew up with the original, so I was pensive about them making another series.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

I'm catching up on Jim Sterling videos and I'm glad he takes the enthusiast press to task for making excuses for the industry's garbage practices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7kaK2-725w

The 70$ price tag is indefensible. It doesn't go towards paying for the wages of the development team in the same way that micro-transactions don't. It goes to a small percentage of people at the time, leeching off of the surplus value of their worker's labor. Obviously it's not a blanket situation and some in the press do take companies to task but it wouldn't be such a bad thing if the majority of them were more pro-consumer.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Nuns with Guns posted:

It was an incentive video they put as a Patreon reward, like how Hbomberguy has sworn to destroy all his internet credibility defending the Prequels. Looks like Curio also hit another reward tier where they'll defend the Matrix sequels next, so I guess at this point it's more that these youtube talky-people are masochists.

Now that's a bridge too far! Those sequels are freaking something else.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

The machines almost proudly told Neo that they destroyed Zion hundreds of times in the past and that they were getting really good at doing it, have a complete and uncompromised control of the situation and have shown to have not been able to or care to develop empathy on a large scale and we're expect to believe that they'll willingly release control of their only power source. On top of that we're supposed to believe, if this flimsy one-sided peace actually matters, that the weak support structures of Zion will be able to rebuilt human society. On a dead world.

Nah. I'm with Harry Lennix. I'm from Buenos Aires and I say kill 'em all. They had centuries to figure out a way to fix the sky or build a super-structure to reach above the clouds, but chose to build super-structures to grow humans. They have no interest in being equals with humanity.

Furthermore

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Farm Frenzy posted:

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh actually in the officially canon matrix online a sizable portion of humanity voluntarily stays in the matrix while civilisation is rebuilt

:catstare:

No!

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Mr Phillby posted:

The matrix sequels are very funny films.

I liked how at the end of the first film, he's literally warping The Matrix around him, stopping bullets and exploding Agent programs from within then in the sequels he struggles against a bunch of mooks in some of the most weightless and impactless wire-fu fights put to film. Why isn't he just snapping his fingers and biffing these fools from existence?

Who would have thought being THE ONE was so underwhelming.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

You know, making this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGOMViJlQmE

as a follow up to his previous video is probably the best thing Dunkey has ever made to make a point. That low-effort 40 second video has more views as his Demon's Souls video and probably took a fraction of the time to make.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

https://twitter.com/jackallisonLOL/status/1336003609629130753

This clip did a better job. Of course, that clip is just icing on the cake. He's been extremely anti-Left for a long time now. He got attention of some folks after he and Hasan dunked on alt-right trash but the communists in his audience made him really nervous and uncomfortable then started pushing back something fierce.

He's denying those feelings... of those communists being right about the world.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

https://twitter.com/ladylurid1/status/1336100538124021761

I don't know why so many mutuals follow that guy.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Mutual follower. But also people I follow also follow that clown. Sometimes mistakes slip through the cracks.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Sleep is a bougie concept anyway. Real proles stay productive 24-hours a day.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Cyberpunk 2077 is just another "battleground" in the imagined "war for our culture" poo poo these alt-right clowns do to cash in on the latest outrage.

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Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

You have to build a following in order for them to leave you en mass.

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