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Not to linger too long on cinema robbie but a lot of the time when straight white dudes who are way too obsessed with idpol (and for the record i dont think idpol is inherently invalid just unsure how else to phrase it) try to get on the 'ah, so you're being HOMOPHOBIC/RACIST/SEXIST' they mostly reveal how limited and stereotypical their view of those groups are. like the one saying brunch is weak/feminine is bob, and then he's associating it with gay dudes.
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Oct 27, 2020 14:27
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id take brentalfloss over those white guys who said the nword over the double dragon soundtrack. thats absolutely the most embarrassing nerdcore music thing i can remember the internet being into
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Nov 19, 2020 23:11
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Augus posted:the original animaniacs had a joke about Rush Limbaugh going to hell lol "Man, we're lost." "Wakko, this isn't a map, this is the Republican Party platform." "Yeah, we've really lost our way as a country."
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Nov 21, 2020 20:25
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happy anniversary to the worst tweet of all time
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Dec 9, 2020 19:23
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really thats the issue of most books/plays that are taught in school, you aren't allowed to find any humor or humanity in it, its just The Important Work. theres no real attempt to teach that it was made by a person with their own interests and first got popular because people genuinely found it relatable or interesting, its treated like moses came down from the mountain with it.
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Dec 16, 2020 08:27
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Terrible Opinions posted:There is also the issue that at least in what American education I've directly taken part in school is way less about actually analyzing the work, and a lot more about decoding how your teacher thinks about the book and then writing to that. It's possible that I just got a lot of lovely teachers by chance, but it seems like those sort of "write what I already think or be deducted points" types are more common than not. At least figuring that out around the middle of sophomore year made the rest of high school and college way easier.
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Dec 16, 2020 13:58
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sex and the city is one of the most successful and influential tv shows ever made its not an underappreciated classic
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Jan 13, 2021 02:25
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It doesnt mean that at all lol. People have been sent so many death threats they attempted suicide for like, writing 17 year old x 18 year old fanfic, lol,
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Mar 19, 2021 10:34
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The reality of it is both terms just mean the worst version of the 'other side' they can imagine, and also its all pointless online bullshit because its not like weird fanfic is going anywhere. Literally the only opinion you should have is 'you probably shouldnt write fanfic where jimmy neutron anal vores his dad, OR send the jimmy neutron anal vore guy death threats because its not like that solves the problem' and if your opinion on it goes beyond that you desperately need to log off.
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Mar 19, 2021 10:36
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Like theres definitely a real bullying element to all this, like that genshin impact game has a pair of sworn brothers people like to draw making out cause 'sworn brothers' can be very winkwink in chinese culture but westerners see 'brothers' and think incest, so theres an obvious clash there, and teens dont know how to behave. I bring it up cause the official twitter for the game retweeted ship art of them and... instead of getting mad at the devs people started trying to harass the artist, lol. But at the same time dragging people who arent online enough to know what the gently caress any of this is is just weird and awkward, and is basically just intentionally stirring up the hornets nest. Like fuller did not sign up to get yelled at about which my hero academia ships are problematic. RareAcumen posted:I know they're a week old but this whole time I thought people were talking about a specific group of people on twitter because I found these in another thread. Is this conversation not about the same people? Some of those people are in the right, some arent, some are taking it way too seriously even if they have a point, some take it extremely seriously and are extremely wrong, and that goes for both sides. That guy framing it as 'proship = pedo' is basically the same thing as the fuller thing, trying to drag people who dont know anything into their dumb internet culture war. Endorph fucked around with this message at 10:56 on Mar 19, 2021 |
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Mar 19, 2021 10:50
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my experience with this drama is i had a friend who's mildly internet popular, who had old fanfic up on a site and got yelled at for it (they wrote it when they were 17, it was just generic romance fanfic between two teenagers, no sex) and then it turned out the person yelling at them and trying to stir up drama was a hardcore fetishist who did nothing but commission art of anime girls in diapers.
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Mar 19, 2021 12:27
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josh04 posted:Used to be that this stuff happened on separate websites with their own rules, so if a creepy-rear end adult turned up in your space for teens, they could be banned. Now everyone involved is on twitter with, in theory, one set of universal rules. yeah, and that's a lot of it. plus the issue of stuff that isnt morally objectionable but there's no where to put it where you can like, convalesce with people who signed up for it. making art where you explore heavier stuff to deal with your own baggage is pretty normal, but twitter is just a giant pile where some stranger you dont know sees 'this story has sexual assault in it.' no context for how its handled or why is there, just that it exists. not even talking about fanfic here cause ive seen actual published authors or like, people making comics get yelled at for that too. making that stuff is normal, not wanting to see that stuff is normal, these two people are put in the same site where theyll stumble across each other randomly with no prior warning. its inevitably gonna lead to conflict even in a perfect world where no bad actors exist. Endorph fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Mar 19, 2021 |
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Mar 19, 2021 12:55
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tbh when i want 'action manga with female characters who do stuff' shonen manga isnt really gonna be my port of call, cause like, its shonen, aimed at teen boys and the editorial staff is mostly old dudes. ofc it has lots of female fans/female authors but still, there's a weighting going on there.sexpig by night posted:yea it's not an e-celeb thing it's just a fame thing, people sadly realize they have a pretty sizable audience that includes young people who look up to them and the whole 'loving groupies' element of fame seems like a pretty fun perk. I mean, as scummy as it is Dan's on the less repulsive side of this by at least waiting until the fans are legal I guess (I wanna be clear that grooming like this is 100% not good and also an abusive thing and this is in no way me 'defending' Dan doing this nasty rear end poo poo).
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Mar 21, 2021 23:15
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yeah and i mean like, plenty of childrens cartoons have sex jokes that kids arent gonna get and im not gonna say the staff of animaniacs are groomers for putting in a joke about fingering the artist formerly known as prince. you just have to not be a weirdo about it (difficulty: impossible)
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Mar 21, 2021 23:19
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Yeah thats weird
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Mar 21, 2021 23:32
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actually in the very very early days didnt the gamegrumps literally call their fans 'cumsluts'
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Mar 21, 2021 23:43
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:It’s weird to see a genuine accusation mixed in among posts complaining about how Game Grumps isn’t as good as it was and about how they make too much money from merchandise, and all the replies talk about this like it’s another complaint about how they’re not funny any more.
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Mar 21, 2021 23:54
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Garrand posted:The first text was sent literally a month before she turned 18. Like, I'm all for not loving your fans and the age gap is creepy but there comes a point where adults make their own decisions. texting a teenage fan with the very obvious intent of eventually having sex with them, when you're 42, is weird. and you can tell the intent was to eventually have sex with her cause he ghosted her as soon as he got what he wanted. if she was just someone he happened to know and they eventually started a sexual relationship why would he suddenly vanish into the ether? but if the 'goal has been achieved' it makes sense.
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Mar 22, 2021 00:21
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like heres a good barometer: if you knew your college-aged daughter just had sex with and then got ghosted by a famous 40-year-old youtube man who shed been texting since she was 17, how would you feel. i have the vague suspicion your reaction might not be 'well, adults can make their own choices.'
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Mar 22, 2021 00:23
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:If two legal adults want to have a casual hookup then I fail to see what the problem is. Maybe I'm missing something here. 1) she was not a legal adult when they met and he was over twice her age. 2) theyd been talking for years but he literally stopped talking to her as soon as they had sex if you put these together, its extremely loving creepy. not a literal crime or literal pedophilia, but extremely loving creepy. something can be creepy as poo poo without being illegal. there's a weird thing when these accusations come up where people try and finangle together whether or not a literal crime was committed and if it wasnt then everything's okay. but no. everything is very much not okay.
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Mar 22, 2021 00:25
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and also people talking in serious tones like 'does this WARRANT cancellation...' is really funny cause this dude could have literally actually hosed a child and thered be two weeks of hushed tweets about it and hed lose a few thousand subs and then hed go right back to his job like nothing happened, like every other time a youtuber got 'cancelled' in the past 4 years jontron should have just waited a couple years to bust out the race science
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Mar 22, 2021 00:31
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Dutchy posted:Yeah leaving aside anything else I hate this development of "power dynamics" as just anyone loving outside of their caste. I've seen more people talk themselves into woke anti-miscegenation in the past couple of years than I ever thought possible what the gently caress are you talking about
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Mar 22, 2021 01:09
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:...Eh, I dunno, I'll have to wait for more evidence to come out before I can form a solid opinion. That's not to say Dan is 100% a spotless angel here, but I also want to be careful not to strip women of their agency. (Assuming, of course, she was okay with the one-and-done hookup)
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Mar 22, 2021 01:25
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Yardbomb posted:I just wish people would stop posting their evidence on future mass-shooter forums. Other than that, horrible and I want to be shot in the back a dozen times.
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Mar 22, 2021 07:13
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the era where joss whedon was a woke feminist everyone respected and if you made fun of him you were sexist was such a hosed up time for society
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Mar 23, 2021 21:54
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Augus posted:A Walt Disney Animation Studios movie that was conceived, directed, and written by white people who then brought POC on board later to “touch up” the script.
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Mar 28, 2021 20:57
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at this point i just feel bad for contra. like every week she makes a giant thread about how shes quitting twitter and then she comes back to yell about cancel culture some more. someone desperately needs to install a siteblocker for her that they dont give her the passwords for.
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Mar 28, 2021 23:14
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Motto posted:The fact that the victim has been asking for anyone to speak to them daily for well over a year now while the people directly involved got constant praise from their peers probably didn't help the response to someome finally chiming in with "well, things are very hard" while still not directly acknowledging the actual person. the logic on 'why its hard' sucks too. for starters, she called the article 'mostly factual,' when the article itself has been criticized by some of the victims as basically characterizing them as asking for it. for instance, one person is characterized as 'flirted with boss, he got handsy in ways she didn't want him to' when her story is 'i did no flirting and he molested me.' so no, gita is not being 'misinterpreted by disingenuous racist twitter posters,' she just sucks.
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Mar 31, 2021 01:39
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but sure, a tweet chain that makes a rape victim feel like this https://twitter.com/alienmelon/status/1376683790983045120 is good, actually https://twitter.com/alienmelon/status/1376668571355340804 she also blocked lawhead, lol
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Mar 31, 2021 01:42
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i feel like jesus representing the trangressions of a privileged class doesnt fit the bible
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Mar 31, 2021 02:22
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Impermanent posted::me, being principled: i think that the two black people in the same industry as this white lady should have sacrificed their careers to fix this also, im saying austin walker can just not tweet 'i support lawhead' and then days later rush to kiss the kotaku editor who oversaw this stuff's rear end when he leaves kotaku. he can just not get involved. i dont think suggesting 'maybe dont stick your nose into this poo poo if you arent prepared to do anything' is demanding people sacrifice their careers. getting involved without any resolve to do anything just makes it way worse. and im not blaming them for not sticking their necks out over something that happened at a site they dont work at anymore/never did, im blaming them for riling up the hornets nest and playing both sides when they didn't have to. that isnt a hard thing not to do! Endorph fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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Mar 31, 2021 04:15
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Impermanent posted:that's fair actually. it just looked weird that those were the two specific names you mentioned - walker's hardly the only significant person who congratulated totilo recently. papaishu, seamoosi, charlie hall, cecilia (of course) shreier, etc. all congratulated totilo, for example. whereas gita conspicuously didn't. just got a bad vibe but what you said makes sense actually.
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Mar 31, 2021 07:10
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egg tats posted:I wonder why out of the 10s of game journalists who wished that dude the best - many of them with way more rear end kissing than a single tweet - Austin walker is the one you're focusing on here? and im not 'calling on her to condemn her former coworkers,' im saying 'maybe making a rape victim want to kill herself is bad, and the stunning insight of 'kotaku doesnt want to take down the article that theyve refused to take down for over a year' is not worth making a rape victim want to kill herself.' maybe, blocking the person you're speaking on behalf of once you've stirred poo poo in their direction and misrepresented their wants, is also bad? might need to workshop that one but it seems solid. like people keep ignoring those points for... some? reason? even though they're the entire issue here. Endorph fucked around with this message at 10:02 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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Mar 31, 2021 09:44
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DoctorWhat posted:At what point do you become responsible for a stranger's mental health? she didn't 'defend herself against the internet mob.' she made claims that lawhead specifically did not agree with and did not represent her situation, while obviously talking about lawhead's situation. you're framing it as what gita did was unquestionable but the mere act of doing it is the problem, but that isn't true. the way she described the article as 'mostly' factual was the fault, and framing it as 'lawhead will only be satisfied with the article's deletion' is false when lawhead's said multiple times she's accepted kotaku will never do that and just wants a few passages edited out. and again, couldn't she have reached out and talked to lawhead about how to handle it? or maybe she could have talked to lawhead after the thing became a drama fire and lawhead specifically voiced displeasure with what jackson said? again, not the fact that jackson said anything, the raw text of what she said. because she didn't do that either. she blocked her as soon as lawhead said anything. Endorph fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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Mar 31, 2021 17:19
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if george had responded to 'and what do you have to do?' with 'all i have to do is be careful about criticizing the government' that would have ruled
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Apr 2, 2021 16:55
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:Yeah. :/ this whole thing just seems all over the place
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Apr 3, 2021 21:40
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Dapper_Swindler posted:interesting. so maybe there is some truth to all of it. The basic vibe I get is 'he did sleep with fans but the 'SHOW ME UR TITS' and 'he gave people STDs' stuff was faked. Endorph fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Apr 4, 2021 |
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Apr 4, 2021 05:39
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Pepe Le Pew's entire thing has always been sexual harassment, so it's not really great optics for a character anymore.
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Apr 4, 2021 05:41
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I mean calling people who disagree with you about a youtuber nazi psyops is also being a bully op
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Apr 5, 2021 00:25
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Also i agree about taking down her old videos but lol at 'she should delete her youtube channel entirely!!!' She says dumb poo poo sometimes but do you really think an attractive white woman left the altright sphere to make *more* money? Like whether or not shes left enough for you the idea that shes a secret nazi grifter is ludicrous. The openly nazi grifters make more money. Jontrons subs went up when he went full race science and broke away from all his old friends. Ian Miles Cheong went from random eurogamer listicle writer to being the gamer alt-right guy and got a ton more money for it. Like im not saying you have to love her or anything like i said i think she says stupid poo poo sometimes too but cmon. The grand master plan of making less money and having everyone call you a nazi if you say idpol alone is a narrowminded way of viewing the world? If she wanted an easy ride, more money, and more friends shed still be making vids about gamergate being cool
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Apr 5, 2021 00:32
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