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Oct 18, 2013



Lilo was cut from Japanese cartoon, must be reason. Time to extrapolate something about entire culture instead of just executives doing random poo poo based on dumb whims.

There is however at least one person on tumblr who really really hates Lilo and gets brought up and conflated in these conversations. But I'm pretty sure it's just one person like the Silent Hill circumcision guy.

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Oct 18, 2013



He's funny and explains political concepts in plain language. Same reason that historians you've ever heard of are whose with an entertaining voice in their writing and who make it accessible, and not those who breaking new research ground. Specifically thinking of Dan Carlin with Hardcore History and Mike Duncan with History of Rome. Neither of whom are really academics just guys making podcasts of primary and secondary sources we've had for centuries.

Or if you want specifically leftist comparisons. He's got the same appeal as the Chapos but less immediately abrasive.

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Oct 18, 2013



Yvonmukluk posted:

I feel that Mike Duncan legitimately counts as an academic at this point, considering he's a published historian with a degree and everything. I think he quoted from his dissertation on one of his Revolutions episodes on the Mexican Revolution, for instance. It's just his medium and delivery is much better suited to laypeople.
That's fair, but he did transition from being a hobbyist and was one of the bigger podcasts around before really completing the transition to academic.

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Oct 18, 2013



I remember him first being a bad poster in this very thread, and when he started making videos it was weird. Though I'm willing to believe someone can be a bad poster and good at other things. After all with posts as bad at mine, I have to.

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Oct 18, 2013



No matter how obtuse and obsolete, every feature is a part of some user's daily routine.

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Oct 18, 2013



Nuebot posted:

And the part that really gets me is that when it looked like Bernie still had a chance to beat Biden there were democrats all across the internet throwing their own hissy fits over it swearing they'd never vote for him no matter what and no one could make them. So why is this poo poo okay? Why are so many people continually falling in line to bend over backwards to try and make as many people as possible continually "suck it up and vote for the lesser of two evils" when it doesn't really work that well.
Because America is a theocracy where the overwhelming majority of media believes that being poor is a moral failing. So a candidate offering to do even the barest minimum to make life better for poor people is a heretic encouraging sin.

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Oct 18, 2013



There is no fictional human being I want to exist more than far left anarchist Biden in Trump's attack ads.

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Oct 18, 2013



As thus the Democrats will make sure that the choice is always bad enough to say "wait till next time" to anyone left of Jeff Bezos.

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Oct 18, 2013



Inspector Gesicht posted:

I can't fathom the desire for a director's cut of Justice League when you can just watch Shazam and Birds of Prey a second time. It takes less effort to make a new good work of art than it is to fix an inherently bad work of art.
Even if works I do not like, I can always empathize with the desire to expunge Wedon. Surely you can understand.

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Oct 18, 2013



buddhist nudist posted:

"Effort" might be the wrong word, but trying to edit a terrible movie into being good is going to be harder than just shooting a good movie in the first place.

If you're Zack Snyder, both are equally impossible.
Haven't we seen several movies saved or more often murdered in the editing process. Specifically in videos shared on this very thread?

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Oct 18, 2013



buddhist nudist posted:

You can only edit a film with existing footage. Like sometimes you have wizards who make A New Hope, but you usually don't.

And the Snyder cut relies on Snyder making good movies which he objectively does not do.
So then how is his effort wasted. It's not like Snyder or his production studio will make good movies otherwise even when working on new projects.

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Oct 18, 2013



buddhist nudist posted:

I don't care of that's what he want to work on but y'all thinking he's gonna finally make his first.goot movie by recutting a bad one is adorable.
I don't think that. I don't even like most Snyder movies, I just think performative hostility to the idea of people who like it getting what they want is weird. Especially given that the stuff they like was legitimately harmed in one of the most extreme ways I can think of for a work of art, having Whedon added to it half way through production.

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Oct 18, 2013



Alright got back and was able to read this. So I think you're greivously misreading the titke of Dan's video. It's probably referencing the Gulf War piece. Given the parentheses around the word (not) it's a pretty obvious reference to the titles of the Evangelion rebuild movies that all have (not) in the title and are intended to be read both ways, and actually works with his closing statement of the Snyder Cut both existing and not existing. Whereas there is no evocation of an elaborate fiction to justify an unpopular action that you would expect if a reference to Baudrillard's piece of intention. In fact the only reason for a cut being approved presented in the video was a popular market demand. Similarly his tweets used as evidence of some anger at Snyder are just pointing out that WB is betting a lot on this, a lot more than one would have previously expected. Then the full thread speculates that this is caused by AT&T's previous bad business decisions (nothing to do with Snyder) putting them in a place where they need big wins or else they're gonna be in trouble.

Movielistsman hasn't uploaded in over a year an only had two videos breach 5k views ever.

I don't watch Maggie Mae Fish or Michael Saba so no clue on any validity to grouping them in this argument.

Then yes moviebob does the exact straw man creation you are describing to everyone he doesn't like. Specifically yeah basically everything you described about anti-snyder people is in his tortuously terrible BvS video. I don't know if he made a Justice League specific vid of similar discourse.

So is this a beef with these people in particular or a more generalized group that is meant to be representative? If it's the latter I think you're doing your essay a disservice by including as your five examples one guy who didn't say what you're claiming and another guy who is essentially a twitter rando. Then not really elaborating on how content actually feeds into the ideological framework you present, beyond mean youtube titles. And really it wouldn't be hard to do so, just elaborate on the actual content of videos and include more moviebob tweets. I'm sure he's got plenty saying that like Snyder fans are mass shooters in the making or something similar.

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Oct 18, 2013



I believe Disney is able and willing to do Pocahantas but worse in live action.

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Oct 18, 2013



Nuns with Guns posted:

IIRC the Algonquin attitude when people ask about Pocahontas being re-adapted into stuff is something like "please... lease us alone, we're so tired..." Which wouldn't be great for Disney's optics when Moana's right over there with pretty close to the same plot and better public perception.
Pocahontas is the stupidest answer I could think of, and honestly the one most liable to cause real harm. And given the events of the past decade I'm going to bet on the stupidest option being what will happen.

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Oct 18, 2013



How is it homophobic to make fun of a dumb poster? Like the physical kind made of poster board. I can understand how making fun of specific SA posters would be homophobic.

The only thing I can think of is that ultralibs have just fully internalized the idea that they are the only true defenders of gayness, so any attack on them is by extension an attack on game people.

edit: Holy poo poo looking down the comments of the originally quoted chain it's people not getting it. The whole way down people aren't getting it. Every post is a complaint about being shamed for eating out. How are they this dense?

Terrible Opinions fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Oct 27, 2020

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Oct 18, 2013



No he's still making GBS threads up politics threads too.

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Oct 18, 2013



I mean the real real root of it is the meme has nothing to do with brunch specifically besides a funny sign. It's rightly pointing out that for a lot of the middle and upper class dems they just completely tune out of politics as soon as it isn't someone as bombastically evil as Trump. They want to go back to not caring about politics, and their anti-Trump stance really has no deeper roots.

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Oct 18, 2013



Ghostlight posted:

no matter how necessary violence is it should not be pursued with a desire for it.
It may have bad actual consequences, but it's stupid to try to shame people for wanting a visceral comeuppance for the people killing them.

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Oct 18, 2013



Max Wilco posted:

Oh, shut up, Olsen, you two-faced little ratfuck.
He's rich in stupidity and condescension.
https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1321867076512948231
You okay man?

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Oct 18, 2013



Neo_Crimson posted:

lol yeah did we forget that like a month ago Shuan tweeted about how people only liked Vtubers because they had mysogynistic and racist ideas about Asian women, and didn't clarify he was only talking about alt-right Vtube fans? Then when called out on it went all "Trap Sprung :smug:"?
No? He stated that was the biggest draw to "western bigots" not to everyone who like vtubers. It's right in the first tweet.

The subject of the sentence is "western bigots" not "people who like vtubers"

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Oct 18, 2013



Dire Lemming posted:

It's also worded straight out of the conservative deniable plausibility handbook. If you don't believe me try the phrases "Muslim terrorists" or "Mexican criminals" instead, they're technically specific but you know what's being said when the usual suspects say it. It's not just bigots who would react negatively, it's literally anyone who feels defensive about the topic which considering it's anime-adjacent is a lot of people. It's certainly not intentional but it is poorly worded which has been pointed out is a theme with left twitter.
ethics in anime journalism

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Oct 18, 2013



Jamie Faith posted:

please don't use this thread (or twitter or anything else) to self harm dude :(

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Oct 18, 2013



Crank yes, but isn't he like a just a fairly normal liberal who happens to live in a repressive country rather than being specifically right wing?

Though on the topic of Russian conspiracies does he also believe in the Great Tartary or the the Great Slavic Horde? I can't find specific references to those ones with a quick google.

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Oct 18, 2013



SFdebris also did at least Miracle Day, and was not terribly impressed. It feels like something Hagan would have done, but I'm not sure if she has.

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Oct 18, 2013



It's outside of his normal series so it was done on commission, presumably by someone with strong feelings about Miracle Day.

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Oct 18, 2013



Booky posted:

i mean yeah i guess so, but why'd he even had to turbo die after confessing?? thats whats real confusing to me
He confessed because he knew was going to die.

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Oct 18, 2013



"breadtube elite"

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Oct 18, 2013



Of all the recent twitter stuff, I think I found the most important.

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Oct 18, 2013



I'm really glad we're sharing around the podsaveamerica type liberals now. I'm sure the homes for people who have fun a small business in a minority neighborhood for five years after getting at least a masters degree will resolve all societal woes.

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Oct 18, 2013



RareAcumen posted:

You talking about Alex Ptak's podcast or is there a similarly named one out there too?
No I'm talking about the podcast that his is named in mockery of. Pod Save America hosted by a bunch of ex-Hillary campaign staff and is absolutely terrible.
Lol

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Oct 18, 2013



Jamie Faith posted:

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1326078217049042945

Movie Bob should just be honest and become a republican already.
Nah he is VERY in line with the DNC and its actual wants. He just happens to oppose everyone in the camp of actual leftists the DNC has to pretend to appeal to for votes.

Bob will support whatever dumb US intervention Biden gets up to.

Hell he even did the whole "we have to remember the Iranian general we just illegally blew up with drones was a bad guy" thing.

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Oct 18, 2013



Being a moviebob stan who is also causing drama also somehow the worst poster in the SA anime subforum?

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Oct 18, 2013



Best we could do since the racism factory shut down.

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Oct 18, 2013



Just like passwords locks don't make breaking in impossible, they just make ti take a bit longer and less convenient. The primary purpose of a lock is to keep confused drunks and stupid kids out of your residence. Which they do remarkably well.

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Oct 18, 2013



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVpJWpUcUqw

Sorry Kim but you're objectively wrong about the best Batman movie. It's Lego Batman.

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Oct 18, 2013



RareAcumen posted:

Also I had to learn that yeah, food existed in the past, it wasn't all gruel and hard stone bread or people just not knowing what the gently caress they were doing. Like, I knew that sandwiches and lobster were thought of as low class food and black slaves in America made fried chicken because they were giving garbage to start with but I never really thought about it beyond that.

Thanks Townsends!
Also see learning that people in the past liked and used colors other than grey and brown.

Endorph posted:

id take brentalfloss over those white guys who said the nword over the double dragon soundtrack. thats absolutely the most embarrassing nerdcore music thing i can remember the internet being into
An embarrassingly low bar.

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Oct 18, 2013



The Bee posted:

The best thing about those is highlighting that nerds don't hate rap because its misogynistic or violent, but instead because its by people of color. Make it Mega Man instead and suddenly all those objections go away!
I appreciate that being extremely vocal about not liking rap and being extremely vocal about not liking rap or country are two different kinds of trash person.

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Oct 18, 2013



The 2006 Casino Royale is actually a really good entry point, which makes the failure of its followups all the more disappointing. Unless Skyfall was actually good, it's the only one I didn't see.

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Oct 18, 2013



Imma be real with you fun splatter film violence is way better and easier to get right than the serious gritty violence that bad comics tend to dive into. But there has been basically two super hero movies where everyone seems happy to be there for the ultraviolence, those being Deadpool and Blade.

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