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Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
I can't believe that Vinesauce Joel's dad was Jordan Peterson all along

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Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
Peterson was on Joe Rogan and said that eating an apple gave him insomnia and suicidal depression.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
Also in his book 12 Rules For Life he writes about dreaming about his grandma's soft, soft pubes.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Killed a Girl in 96 posted:

That dude has some mild-moderate level brain damage. Condolences.
Don't get addicted to pills, and don't try to get unaddicted to pills by seeking out dangerous Russian experimental interventions.


Also don't hate feminism or transgender people.

Those are three good rules for life. 9 more and you can be the new Dark Professor.

E:

Fried Watermelon posted:

I have two acquaintances who have just recently started to get into him

Like after his coma and clear failures of living up to his own rules

They are into him because of their insecure masculinity and need the big daddy energy to be their rudder in the storm of covid

How can anyone look at that melted statue of a man and hear his kermit the frog voice and think he's the least bit strong.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Cubone posted:

dude carl jung is like the nikola tesla of psychiatry

Jung wanted to gently caress pigeons?

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Cubone posted:

I mean weird goons turn him into a cult figure for not being his slightly more famous mentor, thank you for demonstrating, and it's weird to refer to the second most famous and studied psychiatrist in history as somehing "advanced" that it's remarkable to "risk exposing" students to

It's actually quite risky to expose impressionable students to bad psychiatry. See also: Jordan Peterson

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Moon Atari posted:

Problem with that is that I'm barely allowed to even share the vague details of those models to anyone who isn't paying a lot of money for it. 

Or what? Allowed by who?

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Moon Atari posted:

The companies who own them and are extremely protective of their IP. These things are mainly used to augment other executive selection assessments, or in executive level leadership training. That's the only way you get the money to extensively test such things.
I would be allowed to talk about all the sales pitch stuff, the evidence in their favour, validity stats, the insane sample sizes compared to academia etc. I could give a shallow overview of the broadest level of their framework since they already make that public, and that they use very advanced versions of computerized adaptive testing. Saville's looks like this:



But it has way more to it than that. Even if I was willing to risk getting more detailed I would have to refresh myself, since it has been a long time since I practiced in this area, or even as a psychologist. The easiest way to illustrate how much more complex they are than any of the well known and publicly accessible personality tests would be to scan in and post my own results on the tests–but doing so could be discovered and get me in legal trouble, and also would expose my terrible and flawed personality. Plus it's derailing the thread.

I am deeply suspicious of heavily litigious IPs that prominently feature pyramids.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
Nihilism owns

E: What gender does Jorp think nihilism is? j/k it's obviously destructive feminism

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
Psychology good. Pyramids bad. Trying to quantify a personality with a test might be bad, idk for sure but it seems silly.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Tarkus V2.0 posted:

He's never struck me as purposely evil like Ben Shapiro or Crowder but more of a hapless fool who liked the smell of his own farts too much.

His treatment of trans people proves that this isn't true. He very specifically targeted a group he knew was vulnerable because regressive traditionalists saw them as a threat to their views on society. And he gave them an air of legitimacy by attacking trans people on the "issue" of free speech by willfully misrepresenting a Canadian provincial law against targeted harassment by framing it as the evil queer agenda coming to silence him personally if he ever so much as accidentally misgendered someone (even though he didn't live or work in the province with that law). That and his anti-feminist stances like saying lipstick and high heels mean on some sense women want to be objectified are how he first got on the alt-right radar, and he leveraged that into getting more attention on his insane psychology views.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
How long do I have to be a feminist before I turn into a chaos dragon? I'm starting to get impatient and Jordo-Pee isn't very clear in the specifics.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
I quit my first time but I was never all that heavy of a smoker and I can't rule out the influence of hexcraft

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

toggle posted:

lmao just remembering him being on an all meat diet.. what an intellectual lmao :laugh:



Beef, specifically. So no fish or other proteins that could have had other helpful nutrition. Just beef. Probably overcooked too.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

I'll be darned, that looks like a chicken breast. My bad.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
I will never purge my heart of hatred. It's what gives me power.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
Is that a spoon in a big bowl of salt?

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Biohazard posted:

I didn't realize peterson and dumb daughter were peddling this carnivore nonesense. Are they the ones that got Joe Rogan going on that, or was that just his natural evolution from "bro elk meat makes you more agressive durrrrr..."?

Joe Rogan asked about the diet, and Jordan went on and on about how it was a nightmare that was ruining his life because it made him feel awful and it was a pain to have to bring pre-cooked steaks or only order a pile of steaks at a restaurant. It's also where the story of how he drank a cup of applejuice gave him insomnia for a week and severe suicidal depression.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

The guy who made a career after he catapulted into fame by ranting about how much he wanted to misgender trans people can suck peeshit.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Collapsing Farts posted:

I didn't read this thread, as per the Goon tradition,

So can someone please inform me why Jordan Peterson is a devil

He's a bigot and a hypocrite

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
Also he literally cried actual big blubbery tears over how the movie Frozen was destroying western civilization. This is his understanding of what "personal responsibility" is.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

drat horror queefs posted:

Lol jfc

At least he's willing to admit when he's wrong? Though he couches it in immensely cowardly language that doesn't technically admit he was wrong so, lol

He admits he's wrong and then proceeds to keep spewing the exact same stupid poo poo a few seconds later.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

BillyBlanks posted:

I like Peterson. Seems like a genuinely nice guy and aside from religious stuff a lot of what he says resonates with me.

I'd hope that at least those who disagree with him would stop short of wishing more suffering on him, but I'm not that naive.

Yeah, a genuinely nice bigot. Mmhmm. :jerkbag:

E:

BillyBlanks posted:

I'm allowed to like the stuff he says

Oh you weren't kidding :yikes:

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

BillyBlanks posted:

His current public identity is based on being at death's door for the last year. The fact that some people are still frothing at the mouth at being told they have personal responsibility is entirely their problem.

Nobody gives a hot gay gently caress about his lame self-help garbage. It's his bigotry against women, especially trans-women, and obsession with race essentialism that's the problem.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

BillyBlanks posted:

No, he got the scarlet letter for holding the only allowable opinion on trans people, that they should be able to do anything they want and be right about everything all the time, and now people twist everything he says to demonstrate the boogey man they falsely believe him to be.

Also psychology is not garbage you should look into it.

There's no twisting required. He's not nearly as clever at disseminating as you and he think. And nobody has said psychology is garbage. Just his specific views on psychology are garbage. And not even the good kind of garbage you can repurpose, the bad kind like soiled diapers.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

BillyBlanks posted:

So do you yourself get to assess the merits of his knowledge in the field of psychology? What do you base that on?

Hell yes I do, and I base it on years of truckin' and fuckin'.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

BillyBlanks posted:

May your upcoming years of truckin and fuckin inform you that fetishizing the gay and trans communities and rabidly defending their illusionary attackers is gonna look embarrassing once the fad is over.

Excuse me?

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

BillyBlanks posted:

It's exactly that. Don't get me wrong, LGBT rights, fantastic.

The average LGBT rights crusader I meet on the internet, absolute oval office. It's not a replacement for a personality, or human decency. People use it as a crutch. One day the fad will be over and people will crusade for the next big thing.

Again, what part about LGBT rights, my rights, is a fad?

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

LMAO at trying to deflect from the topic of Jorpo getting absolutely bodied by a raccoon cursed by a witch to wear the form of man.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

BillyBlanks posted:

If only there were thousands of interviews where this was explained in detail. The issue was with putting compelled speech into law. The fact that it was a trans issue was tangential.

There was no compelled speech in the law.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

BillyBlanks posted:

You mean Jim Jefferies?


No, Zizek. You know, an actual philosopher and not a drug-addicted loser like Jorko Pillerson

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

BillyBlanks posted:

I think the people who think Zizek 'owned' Peterson really tuned in just to see him get owned. I enjoyed the debate and saw validity on both sides.

What validity was on Jordon's side? He failed to answer the easiest softball question (name a post-modern neo-marxist) and then ceded the rest of his time to listen to an impromptu lecture of marxist theory 101. He made no points.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

BillyBlanks posted:

Your lovely garbage forums are not representative of real life. You are a billion-fold less important than the guy you're ripping on. Back under your lovely rock.

And yet we can recognize a kermit-voiced pill-popper for what he is and you can't.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
That's like asking what's better at making dogshit, borzoi or whippet.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

toggle posted:

Pls explain the lobster stuff?

Basically JorPeepee believes that in groups of lobsters those that are born bigger and stronger naturally are able to claim the most resources, food and mates, and this allows them to further grow and dominate over other lobsters which creates a sort of natural hierarchy. The largest at the top with those progressively smaller getting proportionally less. This is proof that all hierarchies, rich above poor, man above woman, white man over black man, is the natural order of things and that trying to disrupt this order by means of socialism, feminism, civil rights, go against the very order of existence and only lead to chaos and destruction of all things (but specifically white men in western civilization).



It should come as no surprise that lobsters do not work that way, and Jorp based his entire philosophy on things he doesn't understand and just made up.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

BillyBlanks posted:

The best way to assess a psychologists abilities is to ask them what facts they know about lobsters.

It is when they base their entire thesis on lobster facts.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

1redflag posted:

“I don’t need to debate why I’m entitled to my lovely positions!” :smug:

*debates my lovely positions for hours to anyone who so much as passes by* “IM NOT MAD, YOURE MAD!!!” :rant:

"I remember when this forum was about jokes! Nobody makes jokes any more!"

*People make jokes about a miserable crustacean-obsessed weirdo*

"Noooooooo! You can't make jokes! He's too important!!!!"

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Oriental Hugs posted:

How did they feed him steaks when he was in a coma.

Pureed and sent through an IV.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
The scary thing is thats how he's always looked and talked.

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Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Lobsters eat trash. Zizek eats trash...

Oh poo poo, I think I just broke this thing wide open!

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