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You don’t have the most successful run in nfl history being a lovely GM
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I mean we’ll never know because the number of times the literal greatest quarterback in history has been lottery-balled in the 6th round is 1. And we’ve established getting him was pure luck.
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Feb 23, 2021 01:29
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Belichick also had help being a GM for the first decade. He’s only been team dictator for these later years.
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Feb 23, 2021 01:32
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Belichick also had help being a GM for the first decade. He’s only been team dictator for these later years. His help was Mike Lombardi lmao E: and wasn't Pioli a pants on the head psycho when he was with the Chiefs?
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Feb 23, 2021 17:35
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sean10mm posted:His help was Mike Lombardi lmao I have no idea what Pioli did on the Chiefs but was he the one who brought Matt Cassell over? That actually worked for a couple years.
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Feb 23, 2021 17:43
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sean10mm posted:His help was Mike Lombardi lmao Yes. There were some long form articles about his time in Kansas City that included a story about how he either noticed or intentionally left a candy bar wrapper or some similar small piece of trash in an stairwell or something to see how long before someone else did something about it. I think it was another case where he had players and staff paranoid he had the whole building bugged and poo poo like that.
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Feb 23, 2021 17:49
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It's kind of funny how many former Patriots front office guys are out there. Jason Licht has been GM of the Buccaneers since 2014. Took awhile with a bunch of mis-steps, but obviously had a pretty successful last few years. Was Director of Player Personnel in NE from 2009-2011 Joe Robinson has been GM of the Titans since 2016. Was Director of College Scouting in NE 2009-2013, obviously successful. Thomas Dimitroff has been GM of the Falcons since 2008. Was DoCS in NE 2003-2007. Had a good run that's very much over. Bob Quinn has been GM of the Lions since 2016. Was Director of Pro Scouting in NE 2012-2015. I believe the analysis here is "Oof" Scott Pioli was... bad on the Chiefs, and has been an assistant GM with the Falcons since 2014, so a good run, then... not so good.
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Feb 23, 2021 17:53
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Cam Newton is a Belichick fan!
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Feb 24, 2021 19:47
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Kalli posted:It's kind of funny how many former Patriots front office guys are out there.
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Feb 24, 2021 19:51
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What's the lifespan of the typical GM? Most everyone's hanging on 'til the owner gets impatient. Love to see a list of GMs by tenure length.
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Feb 24, 2021 19:57
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This is how things stacked up as of May 2020 (some are now out of a job). The date they took over is listed on the right. Jerry Jones (Dallas Cowboys): April 18, 1989 Mike Brown (Cincinnati Bengals): August 5, 1991 Bill Belichick (New England Patriots): January 27, 2000 Kevin Colbert (Pittsburgh Steelers): February 18, 2000 Mickey Loomis (New Orleans Saints): May 14, 2002 Rick Spielman (Minnesota Vikings): May 30, 2006 Thomas Dimitroff (Atlanta Falcons): January 13, 2008 John Schneider (Seattle Seahawks): January 19, 2010 Howie Roseman (Philadelphia Eagles): January 29, 2010 John Elway (Denver Broncos): January 5, 2011 Les Snead (St. Louis Rams): February 10, 2012 David Caldwell (Jacksonville Jaguars): January 8, 2013 Steve Keim (Arizona Cardinals): January 8, 2013 Tom Telesco (San Diego Chargers): January 9, 2013 Jason Licht (Tampa Bay Buccaneers): January 21, 2014 Ryan Pace (Chicago Bears): January 8, 2015 Chris Grier (Miami Dolphins): January 4, 2016 Bob Quinn (Detroit Lions): January 8, 2016 Jon Robinson (Tennessee Titans): January 14, 2016 John Lynch (San Francisco 49ers): January 29, 2017 Chris Ballard (Indianapolis Colts): January 30, 2017 Brandon Beane (Buffalo Bills): May 9, 2017 Brett Veach (Kansas City Chiefs): July 11, 2017 Marty Hurney (Carolina Panthers): July 19, 2017 Dave Gettleman (New York Giants): December 28, 2017 Brian Gutekunst (Green Bay Packers): January 7, 2018 Mike Mayock (Oakland Raiders): December 31, 2018 Joe Douglas (New York Jets): June 7, 2019 Eric DeCosta (Baltimore Ravens): January 7, 2019 Ron Rivera (Washington Redskins): January 1, 2020 Andrew Berry (Cleveland Browns): January 27, 2020 Bill O’Brien (Houston Texans): January 28, 2020 CocoaNuts fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Feb 24, 2021 |
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Feb 24, 2021 20:20
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The first two entries and the last entry on that list are amazing.
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Feb 24, 2021 20:46
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Rick Spielman has really overstayed his welcome! Surrounded by people that won or made Super Bowls on that list.
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Feb 24, 2021 21:21
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Rick Spielman has really overstayed his welcome! Surrounded by people that won or made Super Bowls on that list. I honestly think he's a top 10 gm. Maybe its Stockholm syndrome from 15 years of "they're almost over the hump" but there's not many others I would want over him.
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Mar 8, 2021 19:39
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Bill Belichek's end game: 1: get old 2: die
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Mar 8, 2021 21:21
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Rick Spielman has really overstayed his welcome! Surrounded by people that won or made Super Bowls on that list. Slick Rick rules and I hope one year he completes his goal of owning every pick in the 7th round.  Also outside of his 2 most obvious mistakes of Ponder and Laquon Treadwell he has been a very good GM.
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Mar 8, 2021 22:52
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Quiet Feet posted:Bill Belichek's end game: he’s just like me 
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a patagonian cavy posted:he’s just like me Except for the first part.
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Apr 3, 2021 20:56
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Ol' Billy setting himself up to be Coach of the Year? ESPN floating the prospect, and I'm sure they're not alone... https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/st...s-miss-playoffs
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Nov 29, 2021 21:57
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Got a laugh out of this one... https://twitter.com/amato_mike/status/1468066039908950017
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Dec 8, 2021 17:25
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And he's making things fun by telegraphing his strategy now (even though the weather conditions on Monday night really left few other options): https://twitter.com/CourtneyFallon_/status/1468076791529189377 https://twitter.com/WillBrinson/status/1468099653765939204
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Dec 8, 2021 17:30
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Okay that is legitimately funny.
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Dec 8, 2021 20:25
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CocoaNuts posted:And he's making things fun by telegraphing his strategy now (even though the weather conditions on Monday night really left few other options): turns out this was Belichick's end game the whole time, end the league with the run funniest coach in sports
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Dec 8, 2021 20:37
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I want Belichick to run the triple option.
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Dec 9, 2021 15:25
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I want Belichick to gently caress off forever.
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Dec 9, 2021 15:59
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Diva Cupcake posted:I want Belichick to gently caress off forever. You, collectively, allow this to continue. Team was 2-4 and people were questioning whether Belichick would lose his job after the season. Now lmao he’s gonna coach another 4 years and probably retire the moment he needs to pay Mac a real contract.
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In what world would Belichick lose his job that doesn't involve him just retiring whenever he wants? You've been listening to too much WEEI again. No one except Pats fans want more Belichick. It's like rooting for US Steel. It's rooting for Walmart. It's rooting for the school bully and then telling the victims that they should just fight back harder.
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Dec 9, 2021 16:08
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Lol, Belichick would never be fired, come on man.
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Dec 9, 2021 16:09
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I think Belichick is currently 28 games behind Shula's win record (including playoffs). Let's say the Pats win 2 more this year and that slips to 26. He'd need probably at least 3 seasons more to top Shula. It wouldn't surprise me if that's what he's aiming for before retiring.
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Dec 9, 2021 16:09
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That'd also get him the record for oldest head coach, so yeah I could see that being his plan.
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Dec 9, 2021 16:12
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Kalli posted:That'd also get him the record for oldest head coach, so yeah I could see that being his plan.
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Thinking this belichick guy is a good coach
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Diva Cupcake posted:In what world would Belichick lose his job that doesn't involve him just retiring whenever he wants? You've been listening to too much WEEI again. I have not listened to WEEI once in my life. Anyway the point was that after a 7-9 season if Belichick spent $250 million in free agency and drafted a first round QB only to somehow do worse do you really think ownership wouldn’t be pretty upset?
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Radio talking heads, Shimrra Jamaane main source of takes, were suggesting that if the Pats had another bad year that Bill might be on the hot seat because he spent an assload of Krafts money to no results, had been drafting poorly, and still didn't have a QB Instead basically all the guys they signed are playing well, seemed to have drafted well the last two years, and as a result of that got a QB again. They still have some holes to fill on offense but he re-tooled the team fairly quickly
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Nodoze posted:Radio talking heads, Shimrra Jamaane main source of takes, were suggesting that if the Pats had another bad year that Bill might be on the hot seat because he spent an assload of Krafts money to no results, had been drafting poorly, and still didn't have a QB And they were right. The drafting between 2014-2020 was really bad. It’s just that Belichick proved he did the right thing this past offseason with his many uncharacteristic moves. He went all in and it paid off. See, when you do bad at a job you get in trouble with your boss. But, and here me out, when you do well then your boss, and the fans, trust you again.
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Dec 9, 2021 16:17
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Nodoze posted:Radio talking heads, Shimrra Jamaane main source of takes, were suggesting that if the Pats had another bad year that Bill might be on the hot seat because he spent an assload of Krafts money to no results, had been drafting poorly, and still didn't have a QB Next year is going to be a big challenge on the defensive side because that old core of players are gonna be toast, also JC Jackson is gonna have to be paid a zillion dollars or replaced.
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Dec 9, 2021 16:19
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:See, when you do bad at a job you get in trouble with your boss. But, and here me out, when you do well then your boss, and the fans, trust you again. The point is that ... quote:people were questioning whether Belichick would lose his job after the season Is baloney. Nobody but dolts ever thought Belichick would be fired. He could go 2-15 for the next three years and not get fired.
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Dec 9, 2021 16:21
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Anyway the point was that after a 7-9 season if Belichick spent $250 million in free agency and drafted a first round QB only to somehow do worse do you really think ownership wouldn’t be pretty upset?
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Dec 9, 2021 16:22
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Next year is going to be a big challenge on the defensive side because that old core of players are gonna be toast, also JC Jackson is gonna have to be paid a zillion dollars or replaced. I think Jackson will probably get tagged, but the cap is supposed to go up a good amount so maybe they will just pay him
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Also it’s now “common knowledge” that after the Dallas loss Bill went “gently caress this, my rear end is getting embarrassed” and took total control of the defense for the first time in a while. Because prior to that it was his son Steve with Mayo being some kind of unclear assistant.
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