grate deceiver posted:

I did my first Golden Core but it turned out only Tier 6, I had all the ideal season requirements, except the weather since I didin't have any weather spells yet. It was wood law, so I had the breakthrough room stacked with ice crystal ore. Is that the best I could have gotten out of this? Is max Qi really important for the first golden core breakthrough?

deep dish peat moss posted:

While you do want Outers to do work, there are reasons to Promote some with high crafting skills. Namely that Artisanry feeds in to Alchemy and Artifact Crafting and I believe some other skills do as well. So your dedicated alchemy/artifact crafters should be promoted craftsmen using the apropriate laws (e.g. Myriad Artifact Law for an artifact crafter)

Syenite posted:

Yeah it's a large map, although searching a box/body for that chakram & cloth is about as far as any of them were from the water. I've definitely run into both the sleeping outside, and the thirst issues, although this is the first time it has been so severe and nigh-instantaneous. The charm idea definitely seems prudent.

Red Mundus posted:

What causes sleep to be interrupted due to hearing movement? All of my characters have there own room but almost every other night one can't sleep because they're hearing something move. There are no animals nearby. Is it other characters snoring or something?

deep dish peat moss posted:

Never feel bad about how long it takes to reach Golden Core. It took Goku 386 episodes.

deep dish peat moss posted:

(E: Nevermind - someone in Discord tested and did find a large difference in yield based on furnace element. I'll get one put together!

For Shendao I've just been giving them a 5x5 room with stone walls, a stone bed, a stone screen and a stone lamp but I'm not much of a shendao expert. This is at least enough to get two mental state breakdowns and start working on divine residents but that's the furthest I've made it with one.

Zurai posted:

Happy to help!

At some point here, if no one else beats me to it, I'll probably do up a guide for making animal people reincarnators. I figured it out on my own and it isn't hard, just a lot of steps.

Hollow Talk posted:

So, I followed (loosely) some of those excellent blueprints, but that meant I end up getting blessed as a sect early on, which instantly gets 300 sect reputation and seems to lead to enemy cultivators showing up incredibly early. Does blessed status give any bonuses that are worth the trade-off, or should I try to keep it below that until I'm halfway set up to at least handle 2 enemies with artefacts?

Hollow Talk posted:

Thank you for the answers! Unfortunately, as seems to be par for the course for this game, I have now heard about at least three other things I did not know about. Time to do some more digging.

Operant posted:

Thanks guys. Also unsure how to unlock locations on the map - for example there's locations on mt. shu and all I see at the moment is just 'mt. shu' as a location to visit - do I just keep needing to send inners to adventure in that area?

deep dish peat moss posted:

I also tested regular wood, which gave me Slightly Auspicious. So this means that something about the item used affects the strength of the feng shui. I didn't get around to testing what it is exactly but I'd guess either tier or Qi Gathering stats.

Anyway the short version here is that most of Alchemy Furnace feng shui is going to be in using the appropriate items from your stockpiles rather than the way they're built or laid out, so I'm not sure how useful a blueprint would actually be, but I'll at least get one uploaded later that has empty tables with nothing on them.

Catpetter1981 posted:

An Inner Disciple with a better Golden Core-level will have a much higher Max Qi level when they reach Nascent Soul, compared to another Inner Disciple with a lower Golden Core-level.

Higher Max Qi level will allow you to:

(a) spam your combat spells during fights;

(b) last longer in fights with strong enemies;

(c) survive more Heavenly Tribulations and thereby generate more Nascent Soul threads for item-enchantment purposes;

(d) survive the break-through to Demi-God level and post-Demi-God ascension, which always requires you to clear a Heavenly Tribulation.

You don't need a top-tier Golden Core for your first (or even first few) disciples, but you should aim to eventually reach top-tier Golden Cores if you want to handle end-game fights (e.g. invading the other sects on the map and fighting the Torch Dragon, Flood Dragon and Fiery Phoenix).

Weebus posted:

What law do you need for stat boosting spells? I've only had true sun golden cores so far and they don't seem to have any.

30.5 Days posted:

An important thing in this game is the relationship between water element & cold, and fire element and heat. It's not 1:1 (bodies of water aren't inherently cool, and while a display with an ice crystal bar creates the same amount of water element as an ice crystal lamp, the bar is much colder) but most things that create one create the other. Smelters, forges, and stoves are hot.

Speaking of heat and cold, I put together an early game walk-in freezer design. Requires 23 ice crystal bars (6 ice crystal ore), 5 igneocopper bars (2 igneocopper ore), and ice crystal offcuts (1 ice crystal ore).

Goes like this:

code:

SISISISISIS
IL Y   Y LI
S         S
S         S
I Y  Y  Y I
SISISISISIS

S = Stone wall
I = Ice crystal wall
L = Ice crystal lamp
Y = display

Floors are ice crystal offcuts. No feng shui objects so replace any stone wall with a stone door or ice crystal walls with ice crystal doors.

In the summer, put ice crystal bars on the displays, in the winter put igneocopper. This will keep the temperature below freezing and above -30. Not sure what specifically is required for spring/fall but I'm sure you'll figure it out.

Includes 29 tiles of space for your meats, etc.

DrManiac posted:

Yeah I was confused because I definitely saw something somewhere that said the elements should flow clockwise on the chart.

2fishy posted:

Hey guys,
I've recently got my first GC immortal/demi-god and now 2 strange things happened to him:

1. His next tribulation time shows that 5 days is left, but it never goes down, been like that for 10+ days already IIRC. Should it be like that?
2. Whenever I try to send him on adventure, I get something like "His limit was increased. It's not a time to Adventure." message. However, if I press Enter button on a world map, the immortal can do it freely.

So, raising the guy to demi-god stage prevents him from adventuring? Doesn't seem too fun to be honest.
And what about the infinite 5-day tribulation? Looks like a bug to me, do you know anything about it?

Catpetter1981 posted:

Falcorum posted:

I suspect it may affect already drawn talismans and other things but I haven't really tested those.

deep dish peat moss posted:

I've been testing this all afternoon and it turns out it's true:

When you craft an artifact, the amount of Qi in the base item determines the tier and strength of the resulting artifact.

Also similarly to GC breakthroughs, higher qi in a base item leads to a longer crafting time - with super high Qi in the base item you can be crafting for days/weeks straight.

I don't have many details about the strength of the effect yet, but using a Core Shaping disciple with 28 artifact crafting skill, I was able to craft Tier 4, 8, and 11 artifacts by infusing sufficiently enormous amounts of Qi on a t6 Jade Spear (cheatingly high amounts - in a real game you'd be doing this with an artifact crafting character at a much higher stage)

This means you want to build cultivation spots for weapons, too that you will later craft into artifacts - and yes, using qi gathering items that feed the element of the weapon. (It's a very slow process)

This also means that there's a useful purpose for Spiritual Refinement (increases the qi/sec an item gains)



All thanks to spotting this tooltip when making a custom item in the Realm Palace



With literally the maximum amount of Qi an item can have (100 billion), this guy:



crafted this out of a t6 ice crystal spear (compared on the right to one he crafted with sub-100 qi in it)

Patrat posted:

To comment on some of the above, qi regen has absolutely no impact on golden core formation. The UI does not indicate it anywhere at all but you do not regenerate your qi during golden core formation.

What does impact core formation is cultivation speed and so eating spirit stones and spirit crystals does boost your golden core grade, if you have 8K or more qi then eat a spirit crystal a few days before the core formation so that you have time to heal the resulting damage.

Then obviously the best breakthrough room and weather you can find, optimal season, if you can find or make talismans that boost cultivation speed though? Equip those. Also Demon Bear Fur items give a good cultivation speed boost and you can specter refine them for added power.

Sokani posted:

Keeping the dragon down requires good Feng Shui and high beauty. I like to make the dragon room out of spirit stone for easy tier 6 decorations with good beauty. Ancient cultivators start showing up in the world at this point, if you ask one of them about the dragon they will give you a tool to suppress it further.

SlyFrog posted:

I think that's kind of silly. By that logic, a human being living a life and getting a job and advancing in a career is some type of transcendent wizard story.

Sometimes things can be overly reduced to the point of silliness. I have not read any wizard stories where the story is the wizard sitting on a rock or meditating in a garden until he transcends and becomes a god, no.

I really have no desire for this to be some argument where you show me up, with some strange agenda that it's actually incredibly common and I'm just making up my ignorance of it or something. Or whatever you are angling toward.

No, I have never read books or seen movies about people who meditate until they become gods. I don't think a police drama really counts.

Maybe Dr. Strange (the movie) is a somewhat closer analogy?

Catpetter1981 posted:

The slots in "Qi Gathering Range of 6 to 9" can only be filled using the remnants of ascended Demigod disciples.

As such, you will need to ascend at least 24 + 28 + 32 + 48 = 132 disciples in order to have an absolutely maxed out Qi breakthrough room.

Splash Attack posted:

i've been slowly building up my cultivator ranks and just slowly testing out the game, to be honest. i finally got a cultivator with 300k+ qi so i can mass specter refine and i'm building a second one with hopefully more qi so i can refine more fluxes and other poo poo. i'm building cultivation rooms and testing out various setups (i need to see if i can just put my best crafters in their own private rooms with a sewing/smithing/crafting workstation with permissions set to 'room,' and if that means they'll be the only ones able to craft those items. that way i can just let the less skilled outers deal with the mass production orders). right now i'm also training up some body cultivators and shendao ones because they keep dying when they reach a certain level thanks to tribulations. i still don't understand how formations work or how to use them, but i only have messed with them once.

by the way, i think it was either in this thread or the discord, but i saw the screenshot for a five-element alch forge layout with a little herb garden on the edges of the room that looked really nifty, and i'd like to try it in my game but i can't find it again. does anyone know what i'm talking about?

Catpetter1981 posted:

That's a feature of Immortal mode, not a bug or a mod issue.

When you play on immortal, your breakthrough chance and expected golden core grade are always displayed as "Unknown".

Similarly, when you check a room's fengshui score in an Immortal game, you will only see the final fengshui grade (e.g. very ominous, auspicious, etc) and not the factors / reaons for the grade.