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Sanguinia posted:Cancel Culture doesn't exist, its called "society's values change and there are social consequences if you don't adjust your behavior in response to that." Conservatives don't like the fact that the values they want America to have are going out of business in the Marketplace of Ideas so much like their beloved oil industry and they're trying to demand that they be given an incredibly disproportionate advantage so they don't get completely bankrupted out of the competition. Or how many Dixie Chicks albums have been sold since the Bush presidency.
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Desperado Bones posted:They are crying about Dr. Seuss racist caricatures that Dr.Seuss himself was ashamed of later in life. Later on it was decided not to re-print like a couple of books for the same reason. Important to note it was Seuss's own foundation who made the decision not to continue printing a handful of books with things like Africans in grass skirts and bone-noses.
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Desperado Bones posted:They are crying about Dr. Seuss racist caricatures that Dr.Seuss himself was ashamed of later in life. Later on it was decided not to re-print like a couple of books for the same reason.
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Also, The Muppets and Mr. Potato Head. Disney has restricted the original Muppets show from what I gather, so it can only be viewed from an adult account rather than a general one, and plays a warning about offensive depictions that they want people to be aware of and talk about before the show. Which isn't actually going anywhere. It's still available, and a parent could easily put it on for their kid, even assuming a kid was interested in watching one of the older Muppets shows in the first place. Mr. Potato Head has also just become Potato Head; no gender. Which probably isn't even anything to do with gender politics really, and just means that it can be marketed to boys and girls at the same time more easily, given it's now completely non-gender specific. It's still there and you can make it a male, female or whatever depending on your preference at any given time. It's just a simpler marketing line than having a Mr and Mrs Potato Head. I don't believe there was any initial push for the changes to happen either in these cases.
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tsob posted:Also, The Muppets and Mr. Potato Head. Disney has restricted the original Muppets show from what I gather, so it can only be viewed from an adult account rather than a general one, and plays a warning about offensive depictions that they want people to be aware of and talk about before the show. Which isn't actually going anywhere. It's still available, and a parent could easily put it on for their kid, even assuming a kid was interested in watching one of the older Muppets shows in the first place. Mr. Potato Head has also just become Potato Head; no gender. Which probably isn't even anything to do with gender politics really, and just means that it can be marketed to boys and girls at the same time more easily, given it's now completely non-gender specific. It's still there and you can make it a male, female or whatever depending on your preference at any given time. It's just a simpler marketing line than having a Mr and Mrs Potato Head. I don't believe there was any initial push for the changes to happen either in these cases. Not quite. It's even dumber than that. There is still going to be a Mr. and Mrs. Potato Head. The umbrella PRODUCT name has just been simplified to Potato Head to cover all the Potato Head toys since it didn't make sense to have a product called "Mrs. Potato Head by Mr. Potato Head." Potato Head also, complaints about the Muppets are dumb as poo poo as well, since the warnings were added when Disney recently worked out the rights and is finally streaming the show on Disney+ (previously it wasn't available for streaming anywhere). So in reality the Muppets are more widely available and "uncancelled" than ever.
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They should have just changed their names to Adam Potato Head and Eve Potato Head, then it'd make perfect sense that Eve Potato Head was made by Adam Potato Head, and Christian fundamentalist nutjobs would buy it in droves 
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Hazo posted:also, complaints about the Muppets are dumb as poo poo as well, since the warnings were added when Disney recently worked out the rights and is finally streaming the show on Disney+ (previously it wasn't available for streaming anywhere). So in reality the Muppets are more widely available and "uncancelled" than ever. Content warnings are even worse than canceling because they denegrate glorious American culture by pandering to SJW and Antifa LIES which criminalize whiteness and maleness! - Something nazis are probably saying somewhere Remember the Gone With The Wind thing? We literally can't put a content warning on full blown openly-racist Lost Cause propaganda without "defacing an American treasure"
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Honestly surprised they haven’t added the Golliwog to that image.
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Mar 4, 2021 23:36
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They should have used the other painting of dunes
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John Wick of Dogs posted:After viewing the following artwork I now demand they bring back Cara Dune He's headed for those small moons. Those aren't moons.... I have a bad feeling about this.
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Mar 4, 2021 23:42
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Let’s see how comfortable she is when she finds out Grogu is gender fluid.
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As a true scifi nerd I am most outraged that this image is inaccurate as it was drawn from the perspective in the Razor Crest that has no beds or couches but is in fact the area where the ladder from the cargo hold comes up and is a much smaller area than depicted! I hope somebody got fired for that!
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ruddiger posted:Let’s see how comfortable she is when she finds out Grogu is gender fluid.
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Mar 4, 2021 23:55
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How hard is it for someone like Bill Burr to just say something to the effect of "Its too bad my castmate got herself fired"? It supports Disney's stance without taking an explicit side in the matter. If he's so worried about being canceled over what he might say in the future, the best way to hedge against that happening is to not openly hand wring about it.
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Panfilo posted:How hard is it for someone like Bill Burr to just say something to the effect of "Its too bad my castmate got herself fired"? It supports Disney's stance without taking an explicit side in the matter. I don't know. On some level I'm a little okay that Barr's (presumably kneejerk) bias is toward his cast mate instead of the big-rear end corporation. "It's too bad my castmate got him/herself fired" is a stance that could easily be taken by others for the next Ray Fisher thing. And we all know damned well that there's going to be something like that in the future. Hell, a bunch of somethings like that.
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Mar 5, 2021 00:18
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Wait, did something actually happen with Paw Patrol at some point? Or are they just complaining about people complaining about copaganda?
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^^^^ I think a breadtuber did a half-joking video about how the main character runs a fascist dystopia or something, and people latched onto it. Everyone posted:I don't know. On some level I'm a little okay that Barr's (presumably kneejerk) bias is toward his cast mate instead of the big-rear end corporation.
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Cattail Prophet posted:Wait, did something actually happen with Paw Patrol at some point? Or are they just complaining about people complaining about copaganda? ADCAB (all dog cops are bastards)
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Mar 5, 2021 00:31
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Y’all thirsty as hell, goddamn
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I don't let my daughter watch paw patrol or any other copaganda.
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Arquinsiel posted:^^^^ Yes it is. When Charisma Carpenter came forward (in part due to Ray Fisher's story) about Whedon's treatment of her it would have been very easy for her cast mates to have simply said nothing instead of supporting her and sharing their own stories. No, Burr isn't some kind of hero for what he said. And Hell No, Carano isn't a victim of anything other than her own bigoted stupidity. I guess I'm saying that if I have to choose, I'd rather be somebody who shoots their mouth off occasioanlly defending somebody who probably shouldn't be defended than be somebody who shuts up and lets bad situations continue instead of speaking out.
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