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Doom2020! posted:Is someone born in 1991 considered a Zoomer? If yes, then I agree and the Millenials are the worst. If no, then can we settle on people born in 1986 as the worst? As an old who was born in 1966, I agree with this. First issue Gen X- we have our own bullshit to be blamed for but at least we aren't boomers 
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Were you born at any point in the 80s? You are almost certainly a Millennial. Born in the late 90s? You are a probably a Zoomer. The oldest Millenials are coming up on 40, and the oldest Zoomers are coming up on 24. We are already at the point where the actual children are not Zoomers, they are....what are they calling it now, Generation Alpha? The first generation born entirely in the 21st century. Zoomers are already irrelevant. I hope you enjoyed that 5 minutes where you mattered, now climb in the loving trash heap with the rest of us.
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nine-gear crow posted:Other Maddison Cawthorn highlights include: filming himself punching a small tree for a minute or two in order to own the libs. I'm almost afraid to ask, but how does punching a tree prove anything? Besides anger issues?
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:As an old who was born in 1966, I agree with this. First issue Gen X- we have our own bullshit to be blamed for but at least we aren't boomers I think technically you're a Boomer. Baby Boomer was 1946-1966, so welcome to you, Enemy of Humanity. I was born in 1968, so no idea what my classification is.
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tsob posted:I'm almost afraid to ask, but how does punching a tree prove anything? Besides anger issues? It was to show how strong and tough he was. Part of his campaign strategy that helped him get elected was implying that he was an injured vet and/or was going to the Naval Academy before his tragic (self-inflicted drunk driving) accident. Both of these are lies. It also would have been more impressive if the tree wasn't tiny and rotten and he hadn't been wearing gloves with built-in brass knuckles.
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Apr 15, 2021 17:16
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even if it had been a verdant and healthy oak tree and he splintered it like Goku training at 1,000x Earth's gravity, he would still be the same guy who was so sexually aggressive and physically disrespectful to woman that faculty at his college would warn freshman girls to avoid the wheelchair.
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To come back to the inconsistent way droids are treated in Star Wars, I'm going through Rebels season 2 and got to the episode where Sabine has to take a gonk droid loaded with intel to a rebel base and gets attacked by an old friend who's a bounty hunter. They all end up on a commercial shuttle which is piloted by a small droid that's the Star Wars version of a Johnny Cab.  poo poo naturally goes south, they get attacked by an Imperial cruiser, and decide to blow up the shuttle to allow their escape in another ship. Earlier in the episode, when her old friend disparaged droids, Sabine made a speach about how Chopper isn't just a droid, but a respected part of her crew. So, it comes as a shock a few minutes later, when Sabine straps a dozen high explosives around the innocent shuttle droid and literally leaves it to die in a scene played for laughs.
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Yeah, I've complained about how weird that scene is before but I'd never even realized that Sabine makes a thing of defending Chopper earlier in that episode. It's the biggest example of how callous people are to droids in the show, and one of the worst in the franchise for me personally, because that poor droid is bolted to the ship so even if Sabine hadn't only brought him back online moments before she runs away so that he's completely confused about what's happening as the ship is set to blow up, the bot has literally no way of escaping. He's a part of the ship for good and ill, but is just blown up as a distraction so Sabine and her friend can escape.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:They all end up on a commercial shuttle which is piloted by a small droid that's the Star Wars version of a Johnny Cab. Not to derail, but that's the droid from the old Disney theme park "Star Tours" ride. He's even voiced by the same actor in the series. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Paul_Reubens
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Dave Syndrome posted:Not to derail, but that's the droid from the old Disney theme park "Star Tours" ride. He's even voiced by the same actor in the series. Hahaha, the shuttle is even laid out exactly the same, with handrails in front of the first row. That's fuckin' great!
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Dave Syndrome posted:Not to derail, but that's the droid from the old Disney theme park "Star Tours" ride. He's even voiced by the same actor in the series. It's the same model of pilot droid but if Sabine blew him up then it's not Rex. Rex is alive and well and spinning sick tunes at Oga's Cantina on Batuu. I partied with him the other weekend.
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Apr 15, 2021 18:42
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Dave Syndrome posted:Not to derail, but that's the droid from the old Disney theme park "Star Tours" ride. He's even voiced by the same actor in the series. Peewee was the voice of the ship in Flight of the Navigator? How did I never figure this out?
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Apr 15, 2021 22:21
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Sash! posted:Peewee was the voice of the ship in Flight of the Navigator? How did I never figure this out? Compliance!
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Apr 15, 2021 22:25
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Hazo posted:It was to show how strong and tough he was. Part of his campaign strategy that helped him get elected was implying that he was an injured vet and/or was going to the Naval Academy before his tragic (self-inflicted drunk driving) accident. Both of these are lies. Dave Syndrome posted:Not to derail, but that's the droid from the old Disney theme park "Star Tours" ride. He's even voiced by the same actor in the series.
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Apr 15, 2021 22:45
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Arquinsiel posted:That's not a derail, that's relevant. Since they did the 2010 refresh those droids have been in a box marked "defective" in the queue. Them getting shat on is kind of a Disney bit now.  What the gently caress? This is slander. Rex DJs at Oga's now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM2IQ_uGbjI
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Arquinsiel posted:That's not a derail, that's relevant. Since they did the 2010 refresh those droids have been in a box marked "defective" in the queue. Them getting shat on is kind of a Disney bit now. I mean it's deserved. Rex flew his passengers right past the Endor moon, literally through a comet, and then smack-dab into a pitched space battle. And don't even get me started on the trench run 
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^^^^ I'm pretty sure the speech glitching is why he's "scratching" decks now. Hazo posted:
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So is one Rex named after the other Rex or does some Star Wars writer just really like that name?
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Arquinsiel posted:No idea if they've moved the Florida one since opening Galaxy's Edge, but I know the Paris one was still there in 2019: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFyYc_NaQ_4 Oh yeah he's been there in Oga's from the beginning. Threepio "pilots" the Starspeeder and Buff Rex is only in the pre-ride videos. That's really sad about Paris Rex 
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Megillah Gorilla posted:To come back to the inconsistent way droids are treated in Star Wars, I'm going through Rebels season 2 and got to the episode where Sabine has to take a gonk droid loaded with intel to a rebel base and gets attacked by an old friend who's a bounty hunter. Humans in real life are completely capable of having a pig as a pet while still eating bacon on pork barbeque sandwiches.
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Everyone posted:Humans in real life are completely capable of having a pig as a pet while still eating bacon on pork barbeque sandwiches. I think "pet" is a pretty important word there. The argument isn't about whether people can have cognitive dissonance in how they view droids, it's that droids are basically slaves and people in Star Wars often treat them like poo poo even while professing to see them as more. The crew of the Ghost don't seem to view Chopper as a pet, so the analogue doesn't really hold up. It's more like having an assistant, while happily eating Soylent Green.
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People hold self-contradictory moral attitudes all the drat time, and especially about slave labor which tends to be both kind of ubiquitous (where not forcibly banned) and pretty obviously nasty and degrading. George Washington thought slavery was immoral and privately advocated abolition, but he didn’t stop exploiting slave labor to make money as part of the social role he cultivated. Plenty of people today who would hugely resent being accused of being pro-slavery benefit from slave labor and its products. I thought the specific incident in Rebels was pretty facile and stupid but that’s what the show is like. Anyway I don’t think it’s necessarily beyond the pale to depict people in Star Wars as having a weird attitude to droids. Star Wars itself has a weird attitude to droids: they’re treated with sympathy and often have a viewpoint closer to our own than that of human characters, but they’re also often victims of violence and humiliation to a degree that would be considered too hosed up for a kids movie if they were human. The battle droids of the prequels and Clone Wars exemplify this tension: they’re all essentially ineffectual comic buffoons...except for how they’re all also remorseless genocidal death squads who are constantly hacked and shot to pieces with equal remorselessness by our heroes.
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Hazo posted:Oh yeah he's been there in Oga's from the beginning. Threepio "pilots" the Starspeeder and Buff Rex is only in the pre-ride videos.
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Arquinsiel posted:Florida Rex might still be there too. I have never been to California so I don't know what that queue was like. Oh I get what you're saying! No, Rex is no longer in the Star Tours queue at Disney World in Florida. He used to be on your left as you went from the "terminal" into the "baggage claim" part of the queue, but he's now full-time in the cantina in Galaxy's Edge.
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I know it makes zero sense whatsoever but I like that they maintained the "timeline" by not having Rex in two places at once.
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Arquinsiel posted:I know it makes zero sense whatsoever but I like that they maintained the "timeline" by not having Rex in two places at once. Disney forgets nothing. Not even the costumed Mickey is allowed to be in two places at once.
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Hazo posted:Disney forgets nothing. Not even the costumed Mickey is allowed to be in two places at once. As Harlan Ellison once said, you don't gently caress with the mouse.
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TheCenturion posted:As Harlan Ellison once said, you don't gently caress with the mouse. The really fun part is that the copyright on Mickey Mouse is due to expire in the next two years and I don't believe Disney have even started campaigning or lobbying for it to be extended again so it's possible Mickey Mouse will become a public domain figure in late 2023 or early 2024. I saw some speculation that the reason Disney has been buying up so many franchises in the last decade or more is because they know they can't keep pushing the boat on copyright to keep Mickey in-house, and so they want a slate of new characters and properties they can use as the public face of the company instead once Mickey enters public domain. If it does happen, you just know there's gonna be some adult works with Mickey flooding the market as people test the water on that idea. Comics where he has sex, novels where he kills other public domain figures, dark, gritty Mickey swearing as he broods over something etc. tsob fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Apr 16, 2021 |
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Eh, I would be drat surprised if their legions of attack lawyers didn't make push for it. Maybe they've got it down to such a precise science they can just phone it in at the last minute now.
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Yeah, when it comes to Disney, public domain is more like “”””””””””public domain””””””””””.
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https://twitter.com/S_U_works/status/1382927880804397056?s=20 Her lekku appear to be the same size but they look better to me on the new Hot Toys figure? Hopefully it's something they refine for her show regardless. Also the Clone Wars era take, Pre-Rosario: https://www.sideshow.com/collectibles/star-wars-ahsoka-tano-hot-toys-906960 The TCW figure hasn't been released yet, so there's still a chance they might bring it more line with her Mando live action look when it comes out later this year. Teek fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Apr 16, 2021 |
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Sash! posted:Peewee was the voice of the ship in Flight of the Navigator? How did I never figure this out? I have no idea how more obvious it could have been other than giving the robot a propeller bow tie
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tsob posted:Yeah, I've complained about how weird that scene is before but I'd never even realized that Sabine makes a thing of defending Chopper earlier in that episode. It's the biggest example of how callous people are to droids in the show, and one of the worst in the franchise for me personally, because that poor droid is bolted to the ship so even if Sabine hadn't only brought him back online moments before she runs away so that he's completely confused about what's happening as the ship is set to blow up, the bot has literally no way of escaping. He's a part of the ship for good and ill, but is just blown up as a distraction so Sabine and her friend can escape. What makes it even worse for me is that the whole theme for that particular episode is Sabine confronting her amoral past and how much she has grown since then. In her "Chopper is a person" speech she goes on about how fighting in the rebellion has made her a better person, willing to care about others and help them with no expectation of anything in return. Willing to risk her life for strangers. Then she loads up that poor innocent droid with hi-ex and just loving mercs him. If she had left the droid powered down, I probably wouldn't have given the scene a second thought. But as you pointed out, she brings it back online in the middle of a shoot-out with a star destroyer, with its shields gone, its reactor about to blow up and a string of bombs stuck all around its head and just goes "You're about to die, lol" then runs off.
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Just like people on Earth I assume they compartmentalize. Chopper is One of the Good Ones.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I’m pretty sure at least Phantom Menace had a couple motion-control shots. They also got some of the veterans back to do a single motion-control shot of the Razor Crest in season 1. Attack of the Clones also did model work, largely for locations though like the Kamino cloning facility. After that, they went all digital until Episode VII brought back practical effects on Abrams' insistence.
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tsob posted:The really fun part is that the copyright on Mickey Mouse is due to expire in the next two years and I don't believe Disney have even started campaigning or lobbying for it to be extended again so it's possible Mickey Mouse will become a public domain figure in late 2023 or early 2024. I saw some speculation that the reason Disney has been buying up so many franchises in the last decade or more is because they know they can't keep pushing the boat on copyright to keep Mickey in-house, and so they want a slate of new characters and properties they can use as the public face of the company instead once Mickey enters public domain. If it does happen, you just know there's gonna be some adult works with Mickey flooding the market as people test the water on that idea. Comics where he has sex, novels where he kills other public domain figures, dark, gritty Mickey swearing as he broods over something etc. Even if the copyright on MM expires, the trademark does not. So, sure, in 2023-2024 whatever you can now legally write your Mickey Mouse/H. P. Lovecraft magnum opus and sell it. But you can't you any visuals of the Mouse to sell it because it's still a trademark that is in use. At least that's the way I understand it.
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