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Vandar posted:The Yuuzhan Vong! Invaders who were immune to the Force because they came from outside the galaxy where I guess the Force just doesn't exist! They killed Chewbacca by dropping a moon on him! I don't know how anyone can consider Chewie dying while roaring defiance at a loving Moon after saving Han's kid and a load of other people bad. I'm not sure I could conceive of a cooler death for a fictional character.
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BrotherJayne posted:The gently caress, Maul? Every story I'm seeing about it after a quick Google says that it's supposedly porn of his wife, but also that she has stated that it isn't and that his account was hacked.
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I'm not overly familiar with Giancarlo Esposito, but he seems like a cool guy and for anyone who wants more of him and has a subscription to the streaming service Dropout (or a few bucks to burn on one for a month), he appeared as the guest on a game show called "Game Changer", where the core premise is that the game being played changes every episode and the players (normally made up from CollegeHumor's cast of improvisational comedians) have to figure out the rules as they go along. The game in this particular episode being to act out scenes the host gives them prompts for, in a "Whose Line Is It Anyway" style, and then after the first round the host saying he's not sure about their acting and calling in Giancarlo Esposito as a control to act out the same scenes and judge against each other. It's obvious he's having a ball chewing the scenery as he acts out all the prompts. And the actual players lose their minds when they realize they have to act against Giancarlo Esposito.
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sticklefifer posted:Dropout's still a thing? I thought CollegeHumor fired their entire staff. I know that's why Drawfee went independent at least. CollegeHumor was owned by IAC, who decided to cut it off just about a year ago but agreed to sell it to Sam Reich, one of the CollegeHumor guys (and host of the "Game Changer" show, as it happens). Almost everyone had to be let go (they're down to about 10 staff from more than a 100 apparently) to keep things going, and they don't produce nearly as much content as they used to because of it, but Drop Out has kept going as part of the restructuring, and there's still several new shows of various kinds a week. I'm assuming some of the comedians are working per job now too, rather than being permanent staff. The Dimension 20 stuff is still being pumped out at a good rate (and is in the midst of a season right now), Brennan Lee Mulligan's "Adventuring Academy" is making new episodes alongside the "Dimension 20" stuff, and there's regular episodes of shows like "Umm, Actually..." and "Game Changer" being made too, at the very least. Those are the main shows that I watch there though, so they're things I'm more conscious off. I think a few other shows like "Erotic Clubhouse" and "Troopers: Animated" are getting new episodes too. I signed up about 4 or 5 months ago, and there's been several new episodes each week since, and I vaguely recall reading in a Reddit AMA that Sam feels the company is improving financially, so they're not in a total hole or anything. tsob fucked around with this message at 12:15 on Jan 12, 2021 |
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Bust Rodd posted:It’s like every two days someone finds a single sentence from an interview or a tweet and then writes a 500 word post about how it means Kathleen Kennedy and Dave Filoni are literally fighting to the death over a rancor pit to give Grogu a signature dance move and then all these websites use THAT baseless, completely fact free post as their source. Videos about this kind of stuff pop up in my YouTube feed every now and again, even though I don't think I've ever even watched any kind of Star Wars stuff on YouTube beyond excerpts of Clone Wars or Rebels episodes and have no real interest in the Star Wars movies in general (I was bored enough by Force Awakens that I never bothered with either of the following films) or even most of the upcoming TV shows, but it's good to know I lost nothing by ignoring them.
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sticklefifer posted:Luke became a hermit just like Obi-Wan and Yoda, who also realized it was better to fade into obscurity instead of constantly being pigeonholed into this perfect savior that the legends make you out to be. Obi-Wan and Yoda didn't fade from society to escape a legacy they didn't want or anything though? They went in to hiding to escape the predations of an all encompassing regime that was out to kill them and so they could protect the legacy of the future from the shadows without drawing attention.
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skasion posted:What? Coincidentally or not, the old EU literally did the exact same “Luke fucks around being a moron while his nephew becomes comically evil and betrays him” plot as the sequels. It's been many years since I read any of the expanded universe stuff, but wasn't one of the comics about Luke joining Palpatine's clone as an apprentice? He trains under Joruus C'baoth for a while too, if I recall. His Jedi temple turns out several Sith like Kyp Durron as well. He eventually becomes basically a demi-god of the Force, but that's only after years of stories that had put him through the wringer in other ways and he's not really a flawless character throughout the majority of the EU; it's only really by the time of the Yuuhzan Vong if I recall. At which point the Jedi order that he started and oversaw for years in general are still being shown as flawed.
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Butterfly Valley posted:Yeah that's the crux of it. You can't do the sequel trilogy, resetting the galaxy to the status quo and dredging the emperor up from the dead, without making GBS threads on his legacy, but you could have done one of a million other sequel trilogies. I haven't read any of the old EU in years at this point, and most of it was literal decades ago now so I couldn't attest one way or another to the actual quality of the books in question but I do remember that I liked the general arc of the old EU; especially for the first 10 years or so after Lucasarts really started in to it with the Timothy Zahn books in the early 90s. The Rebellion still having to struggle with lots of little Imperial warlords and win back planets and systems through diplomacy and open conflict, because the Emperor dying didn't mean the Empire was dead. Years of conflict as they pushed in to Imperial territory, taking down would be emperors and isolated remnants until they could take back Coruscant and really mark themselves as a new dominant power. Which, even that didn't actually finish the Empire. Who eventually just ended up as a small set of systems that didn't actually want to go back to the Republic/Rebellion, and were happy with Imperial control under a new, more benevolent ruler. Meanwhile, Luke is going around researching the old Jedi orders and traditions as well as other Force groups besides them before setting up a new Jedi Order of his own but that wasn't as monastic or strict because he saw that as one of the faults that destroyed the old order, Leia is having to come to grips with the fact Darth Vader was her father and trying to assert herself in the New Republic that's suddenly swarming in internecine politics rather than being a unified front because they're not the small scrappy group on the back foot against a monolithic enemy anymore, and different groups are now vying for power etc. There was some really good ideas in there, even if they tended to be buried in poo poo. The only stuff I've read in a long time is the Wraith Squadron books, which I love and hope that Patty Jenkins film can capture even a fraction of the spirit of, but the old X-Wing and TIE Fighter games were great too in my opinion so I just have a bit of a thing for that side of Star Wars, I guess. Plus, and I'm sure I'm in the minority on this, I liked the Sun Crusher (a small snubfighter not much bigger than an X-Wing that had effectively invincible armor and missiles that could cause a star to go supernovae and wipe out it's system). I think it's an interesting take on or subversion of the super weapon in Star Wars that's not just another giant death laser. It being one tiny little ship that's almost impossible to take out using conventional firearms is a good analogue to taking on a huge space station, it's main weapon being a missile means there's some capacity to just shoot it down so even if it fires off it's not over instantly, and even when it does impact there's still a small window before the star explodes during which dramatic action can be taken (i.e. let's get some people out of here). I would take it any day over yet another Death Star; though the fleet of Star Destroyers with Death Star lasers that's apparently in the finale of Rise could be fun in the right hands too.
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Spookydonut posted:The sun crusher could seat 6 humanoids Huh. I could have sworn I remembered it being described as a snubfighter. Oh well. It's still a pretty small ship, and doesn't change my impression of it or the things I like about the concept.
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Yannick_B posted:Yes, removing the movies from continuity is sillier. People forgive/forget bad movies in big franchises all the time. They already did it for Star Wars. The idea that the sequel trilogy drags down anything is something that only exists in our own nerdy realm of extreme caring about Star Wars. A large part of the reason people did it for the prequels is because a lot of the expanded universe content that expanded on that time period was well received. The two Clone Wars shows were both well liked, but there are a good few games, comics, novels etc. from around that period that build the setting out and add to the characters too. Now that the sequel trilogy is finished, Disney can start spitting out shows, novels, comics, games etc. that explore the time period in more depth and I wouldn't be surprised if general perception starts to turn around on it based on those shows. Filoni and co. have no cartoon on air at the moment, and while I'm sure they have something in development, I've no idea what it is and wouldn't be surprised if it was set around that time period. Really, the only major bug-bear I think sticks for a lot of fans of Mandalorian in particular is Grogu's fate, since the time line as is implies he dies when Kylo Ren destroys Luke's temple, but I'm sure that can be worked around.
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Teek posted:Grogu has 18 years to train, get mature enough to speak and come into his own as a force user. He's still basically an infant at 50; I don't think he'll be old enough to come in to his own as a Force user in 18 years.
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Star Wars goes full Dragon Ball Z and we get Future Grogu showing up in a denim jacket with a lightsaber to save Din.
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Shitflinging aside is it really so difficult to believe that fans of a thing would lose faith in that thing if it made enough entries they didn't enjoy? It's not the end of the world by any means, but said fans of anything will probably just settle on enjoying the old things while disregarding new content and it's hardly unique to Star Wars. A lot of Star Trek fans seem to have lost faith in the franchise after Enterprise, the Abrams movies, the new series (Discovery?) and Lower Decks. Actually, many of them seemed to have lost interest after Enterprise and the Abrams movies and disregard the newer shows out of hand. I'm not a Star Trek fan, and haven't even seen most of them so I can't comment but I've certainly seen a lot of bitching online. Marvel and DC fans who aren't a fan of the movies seem to hold similar views, a good few anime franchises like Dragon Ball, Macross, Gundam etc. have fans who do that too. Disney alienated a lot of older fans from the off by discarding the old EU, and then turned out what I think it's fair to say are divisive movies. If you enjoy them, cool, but does it have to be a controversial statement that assumes extreme trauma to say what essentially boils down to "some fans don't have faith in Disney's handling of Star Wars" because they didn't?
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I doubt there's anyone on the planet would have been surprised or outraged if Harrison Ford wasn't part of the films, because his feelings on them are well known in the fanbase. Fisher and Hamill would be expected in some role, maybe, but not Ford.
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Bust Rodd posted:Disagree, especially when it comes to gaming. Tabletop war mini gaming isn’t dominated by a “vocal minority” it’s dominated by grognard Nazi types who gatekeep away women and GLBT and POC, this is known, and it sucks, and when a game company has the courage to tell their Nazi fans to gently caress right off, that needs to be celebrated and elevated, because it NEEDS to be normalized. In what way did they do so, out of interest? I have no interest in tabletop wargaming, so this is entirely news to me and I'd be interested in finding out basically what happened.
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I mean, the House of Mouse managed to get some good CGI on Sam Jackson when he was playing his younger self in Captain Marvel and he had a large range of expressions in that film. There was both more time and more money behind that, but someone they have on contract is clearly capable of doing it if the situation is called for.
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drunkill posted:I hope Disney digitally alters all episodes with her in it and remove her from the show, like they did with Jeansguy. Who?
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Radio! posted:
I had to look up the name to find a shot that highlighted the guy, because I honestly had no idea there even was anything unusual in your shot. Well, beyond Weather's kinda weirdly wide stance, like he's about to do some squats. It's presumably while he's in the middle of a motion or something though.
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Arquinsiel posted:It never took, she immediately said her gender was "beep/bop/boop" so I'm kind of amazed she wasn't fired on the spot for making Pedro look bad for five minutes. I'm not sure how that makes him look bad. If anything, the fact he tried, even if it was immediately revealed to be unsuccessful makes him look better.
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They'll presumably become a collector's item then, and perversely acquire some value because they had a limited run and were discontinued. At least, I assume there hasn't been enough of them made in the last year or so to flood the market or anything. Maybe that's how she can make up for all the Disney bucks she just burned: horde the toys, and sell them off as they start to climb in value due to rarity.
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Chillgamesh posted:Lol this is going to be the same movie they always make about some black-masked antifa beating up noble business owners/poor defenseless police and setting brave trash cans on fire while pink haired college professors defend them online and then heroic Gina saves everyone with the power of her muscles and guns and we end with a big speech on why racism is good "They always make"? There's enough of that type of film for it to be generic? I can't even think of one, but I assume they're all pretty low-budget affairs that disappeared in to ether quickly on release, since they're not being made by the "establishment"/Hollywood? That said, you can reduce a lot of space opera down to similar groups of tropes pretty easily, and with a few edits to the people involved or what they're fighting for it doesn't even sound dissimilar to Star Wars itself in what the people are doing to prove themselves evil/good.
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I didn't even know that Pureflix was a thing. I saw the word mentioned once or twice in the last few pages I think, and just assumed it was a derogatory name for Netflix or something. Then again, I didn't know that Conservatives had created social media networks for themselves and poo poo either, and only found out Parler etc. existed when the news talked about them getting shut down. I don't use any social media though, so that's not really surprising I guess. Still, always weird to hear about the entire systems that exist to serve other people and that just fly completely over my head.
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I've never seen anyone else refer to forums, bulletin boards, image forums etc. as social media, which is generally reserved for things with dedicated apps that focus on sharing personal information and quick discussion rather than long form conversations played out over days or even weeks from my experience. If there's a different term to distinguish the two, then just presume I mean that instead I guess.
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Frankenstyle posted:In the opening shot of S3 just dress the hairiest stuntman handy in her outfit and wearing the worlds worst wig. Film him from from behind walking out into the street and getting stepped on by a Bantha. Mando theme. Do the Mean Girls thing: have a lookalike on set for one scene as they rant at Mando about something, then turn around to stamp off across the street only for a speeder to splatter her out of nowhere the second she steps on to the street.
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Butterfly Valley posted:The simple thing to remember about aliens is budget. It's expensive to do realistic looking prosthetics or anything CGI, hence Star Trek and a multitude of alien races being humans except with gills or some other feature easily added/removed with makeup. Even more so now that everything is shot in 4K - look at the amount of scrutiny Ahsoka's headtail crinkles got. Do you know how using puppets like Farscape compares financially to CGI, heavy makeup and/or prosthetics, out of interest?
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Its Rinaldo posted:Make him sound like Nibbler you cowards I'm not sure Frank Welker is legally allowed to voice anything but animals.
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Why do you think Inspector Gadget was chasing him in the first place?
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Bust Rodd posted:I’m sorry but you’re gonna have to try harder than “actually the critical component of most noir, the dogged and unshakable PI who never gives up, aren’t really detective stories” but it’s a silly semantic argument since were both pretty obviously huge Pratchett fans. You say that like "well stories about cops solving a case are actually detective stories and not cop stories", even though at least in the case of Sam Vimes (I haven't played Disco Elysium), being a cop is central tenet of his personality and informs a lot of his character.
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Bust Rodd posted:Someone being a cop doesn’t automatically make them a detective No, but being a cop does automatically make you a cop. None of the noir elements in the Vimes focused stories obfuscate the fact he is still a copper at the end of the day and being a cop informs pretty much every part of his character. Including making him a good person, since he bases his morality around being a cop and uses the fact he is a cop to hold back his darker urges.
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Vinylshadow posted:Chopper, Beetee, Artoo, HK-47, and Triple-Zero walk into a bar... I will always advocate for Squeaky in these situations, because his argumentative personality and underworld contacts, as well as his skill in requestioning stuff are always going to be valuable. Plus, the fact he's a "free" droid, and no longer required to obey humans like many others are would probably serve such a group well.
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skasion posted:Poor Daala. Literally never escaped accusation of sleeping her way to the top, even when she was like 65 and became president of space Seems uncomfortably realistic if anything. Wasn't there rumors about Ysanne Isard being the Emperor's lover too?
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Sash! posted:I thought it wasn't so much an accusation as an actual fact in both cases. Isard was one of the more entertaining pseudo-Emperors in the EU that I recall, and one of the more intelligent too really. Her plan of "gently caress it, let the Rebellion take Coruscant since they're advancing relentlessly and taking over everything anyway, but let's make Coruscant a giant burden that'll cripple them because it's riddled with a horrific virus with no cure" was awful but seemed perfectly in character and like something that could crush the Rebellion under the burden of responsibility if they didn't find a cure.
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Dawgstar posted:I keep meaning to re-read Rogue Squadron which I did at least enjoy at the time but I'm put off by the notion of Corran Horn is Good At Everything (including rocking the world of a weasel alien). I never read the later books Stackpole did for Rogue Squadron, but I remember really enjoying the first few alongside the Wraith Squadron books. Looking it up though, almost everything I remember liking was in the Wraith Squadron books so I don't even know what I'd think of the Rogue Squadron books if I read them now. I don't recall finding Corran Horn particularly egregious when I read them at the least, but then, I was a teenager at the time and 20 years could have made a lot of difference. Even small stuff like the running "Yub, Yub commander" joke about an Ewok pilot is from the Wraith Squadron, and those definitely had the more interesting and memorable pilots like Piggy, Runt, Face Loran, Falynn Sandskimmer etc. I think the X-Wing game reference about the unbeatable simulator training mission to protect some medical frigates is in the Rogue Squadron books at least, which I always appreciated, because jesus was that mission in the game a ballache.
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That's why I like her. She's eternally trapped in the shadow of Luke as another Tattooinian pilot, but really resentful of it and just wants to be recognized for her own deeds. Her death is cool enough that she'll always be someone I remember, so I think she succeeded. For anyone who didn't read the books (or just forgot her): she died flying her X-Wing inside the exposed engine block of a Star Destroyer and blowing them up from the inside. I think Chewie's Legend's death is the only other one I recall. It seemed to tick a lot of people off, but he died having saved a bunch of people, including Han's kid, before screaming defiance at a Moon that was crashing planetside. And that's pretty loving metal.
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Slashrat posted:I also thought the thread that followed from that with Han Solo dealing with the grief of losing his oldest friend made for an interesting story. Yeah, I liked that Han was portrayed as not just having trouble coming to terms with Chewbacca's death in general, but that he specifically felt resentful at his son for Chewbacca's death since Chewbacca chose to save Han's son over his own life. Feelings which Han knew were stupid and misplaced, if I recall, but that he still felt regardless. It's the kind of conflicting emotional fallout that plagues a lot of people when grieving. I remember liking the co-pilot alien dude he ended up falling in with during that period too, though I barely remember any details of him now; just that I liked that he saw Han was hurting and needed help and was basically "screw your griping, we buds now". skasion posted:Chewie dying was not executed terribly, but it came from a bad conceptual direction where they were very invested in marking out the NJO books as serious edgy mature Star Wars for grownups. I never took it as being used to mark the books as serious/edgy/mature Star Wars for serious/edgy/mature adults (though I suppose I wouldn't have, given I was still a teen at the time), but as just setting up that anyone can die using the most disposable character of the original trilogy (when you don't have to worry about actors). Which, the two interpretations are pretty close and certainly not mutually exclusive, but it definitely set up the feeling for me that even the core cast were in more danger within those books. It's not necessary by any stretch, but it is nice when the danger feels more tangible. The fact Anakin died a while later does serve to reinforce that feeling I'd imagine, though I had stopped reading anyway by that point. He also apparently only died because Anakin Skywalker was now one of main characters of the Prequel Trilogy, so Lucasarts (or whichever division handled the books) didn't want two lead characters named Anakin at the same time, rather than because it was a planned part of the narrative. They were originally setting him up to be the hero of that set of books (i.e. the New Jedi Order). tsob fucked around with this message at 11:27 on Feb 23, 2021 |
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It's possible it was early plans for Lucas' planned show, Underworld, which was a show that Lucas apparently started looking in to the development of around 2003/2004. He wanted to make a live action TV show set between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope that would have a darker tone for a more adult audience and would focus on episodic stories, without one set protagonist (like his The Clone Wars cartoon was, I suppose) and hoped to give it almost movie level production values and focus on character drama that would make it comparable to shows like The Wire, The Sopranos etc. He did hire writers rooms for it though, and filmed about 50 hours of material with hopes for anywhere between 100 and 400 episodes; he couldn't figure out a way to make the production process financially viable on a budget that was workable for television; even with his predilection to throw some of his own money at production costs (as apparently he did with his The Clone Wars cartoon). That said, when talking to his writers he reportedly told them to just go for broke when writing up the episodes and to ignore budgetary constraints entirely and that they'd just figure it out later. They didn't though, obviously, and the project was apparently shelved while they looked in to ways to make things work around about 2009/2010, while some of the plot threads found their way into cancelled 1313 game, The Mandalorian and other projects over the last decade. You can actually see a bit of filmed footage for it on YouTube, along with some behind the scenes footage about making it and there's interviews online with some of the producers talking about their hopes for the show etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tpTOwXVu8g tsob fucked around with this message at 13:27 on Feb 24, 2021 |
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Volume is basically the logical extension of all his obsession with CG, yeah, so he definitely would have loved it.
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I believe this is the clip you're referring to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK6_iR3CWzE&t=58s
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Spookydonut posted:droids dont count There's 30 odd organics in there, including Genoshan guards, pirates, Mandalorians, troopers, TIE fighters and bounty hunters. That aside, it's weird just how nonchalant everyone in Star Wars is about the treatment of droids. Even folks like Luke who treat R2 well don't bat an eye at the indifference or at times cruelty of others. I still twinge a little thinking about that one space bus droid that Sabine and her friend blew up without a second thought. He was literally part of the vehicle, and never had a chance to even try and escape when they blew the vehicle up. I know they can't really do anything about it at this point, since doing a story about it now would implicitly show previous leads as thoughtlessly cruel and undermine them, as well as go against the tone of Star Wars is, but gently caress if it isn't weird. tsob fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Feb 24, 2021 |
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