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Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

The Last Call posted:

Punk got his rear end absolutely handed to him in every attempt in MMA and he's a known rear end in a top hat. Not so much about his views, he's just kinda a jerk.

It apparently comes out on a dime, too. Hornswoggle used to be friends with him and until he asked for somebody's phone number and Punk decided he was trying to "use" Punk for whatever reason and never spoke to him again. He even fell out with Colt Cabana as I understand it, who was his hetero life-mate.

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Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017


Aw. I can just hear 'The Lonely Man' playing as I look at it.

Side question: why do these assholes think having terrible beards equals personality?

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Combat Pretzel posted:

Wait, that ThatStarWarsGirl also supposed to go on the poo poo list? What she done wrong?

She's part of the Fandom Menace and is right there with other pop culture chuds like The Quartering.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Owlbear Camus posted:

INTERIOR: Space Ship, night

UNLIKABLE ATHEIST FOIL, to the hero JACK PIOUSMAN:

What are you doing? PRAYING? Look at this IDIOT, praying. We're up in a SPACESHIP, in SPACE. That's as high up in the sky as you can go, and I haven't seen your magic sky daddy. He's dead.

JANE PIOUSMAN, his MUSCLE WIFE played by Gina Carano:
He's NOT dead, but YOU will be when I use my big strong muscle lady arms to throw you out the airlock. We'll see how atheist you are when you try to science your way out of being in space, where you cannot breathe!

https://twitter.com/JennyENicholson/status/1359699885918879745

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Slashrat posted:

If she was a warehouse worker in some amazon sweatshop, I wouldn't give a gently caress either about whether she got to keep working because it has no bearing on her ability to influence others with her lovely views.

That's unfair! She comes from very humble origins where her father... let me check my notes... is the General Manager of three huge Vegas casinos. Oh.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Doronin posted:

"Believing one thing, and being seen as something else" is a Hollywood tradition as old as Hollywood itself.

But it's wild to me that Gina Carano was so committed to anti-semitic and right-wing propaganda that it was worth more to her than having a stable, lucrative income for most of her foreseeable future. I mean, being a fan favorite in a Star War is a drat good gig if you don't mind fans obsessing over you non-stop. Now she's just a female Steven Seagal type, I guess. Maybe she will get desperate and become a small-town cop in a red state, too.

She had to work considerably harder to get bounced by the Mouse than not. Favreau even went to bat for her.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

BizarroAzrael posted:

Specifically, Nimoy voiced Galvatron in Transformers the Movie (86) until he gets knocked into space in the end. When he returns at the start of season 3 he's crazy and voiced by Welker, now sounding like 1/3 of Hannah Barbera characters and not like he's murdering his own throat.

Yeah. Welker can't actually do that Dr. Claw voice anymore, unsurprisingly. (It's also the voice he used for the big demon thing in Eddie Murphy's The Golden Child, which is free trivia from me to my fellow goons so you can wow your friends at trivia pub night.)

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Bust Rodd posted:

lmao he's wearing a crew neck sweater under his Mandalorian battle armor like a mid-Atlantic swim team dad ha ha ha

I remember being surprised to learn Luke’s pants in ANH were just jeans dyed white.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Captain Splendid posted:

There was an IG-88 in the Death Star

Hutts built a Death Star.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

BizarroAzrael posted:

Flew into an asteroid after Crix Madine got executed after failing to sabotage it. They may as well have not bothered.

The whole book is an odd exercise in pointless failure. Even as a kid who uncritically devoured SW stuff I didn't think it was very good.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

fartknocker posted:

No, originally they dumped it into the gas giant Yavin, but Kyp Durron brought it out with the Force. They ended up sending it into a black hole at the Maw as well (Unlike the science people in the Death Star prototype who went into one unintentionally).

The Maw scientists also came off as super incompetent. Like what if Dr. Kelp designed war machines for the Empire.

That also struck me as odd as a kid. The Thrawn stuff was mostly about a guy really good at tactics. Then we get a trilogy with two super weapons and Admiral Daala who kept losing Star Destroyers every time she turned around but stuck around herself for ages.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

skasion posted:

Don’t worry, “Isard’s Revenge” retroactively makes the character look stupid and also hammers home the point by giving her a moron clone

I keep meaning to re-read Rogue Squadron which I did at least enjoy at the time but I'm put off by the notion of Corran Horn is Good At Everything (including rocking the world of a weasel alien).

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Spookydonut posted:

Anakin's death is just so contrived and dumb then it's used as justification for Jaina to turn to the dark side for a bit.

Which in turn leads to Jaina to seek out the best Jedi killer EVER to kill her brother... Boba Fett. (The correct response being "How? When?")

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

skasion posted:

Nah, there’s a lot of stuff in between the incredibly half assed Dark Jaina poo poo in NJO and her killing Jacen. There had to be, so Karen Traviss would have time to write books in which Boba Fett actually did anything to back up his reputation

That was during the time Traviss and the other main NJO guy were essentially having slap-fights in their novels, where one would write something and then the other who would write something for the express purpose of saying "nuh uh," right?"

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

The Last Call posted:

Ashoka outright killing etc.

Oh, Ahsoka has a really high body count in the cartoon. I can't do it right now but I'm sure somebody could find that clip of her decapitating four Mandolorians at once.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Baron Von Ghoulosh posted:

I got ya bruh...



There my (murder machine) girl at.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

The Last Call posted:

I probably should have added a bit more context to the statement, she basically wrote Ashoka as a sneering uncaring angry person who slaughtered not giving a crap about what was right or wrong when the opposite party was trying to have dialogue with her.

Because you know, the Jedi were the worse.

Oh, in that case, yes, that's bad. Yikes. Writing Ahsoka by like... I don't know, a rough description and never having consumed a single piece of media with her in it.

Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Feb 25, 2021

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Kwatz posted:

Ain’t that the truth. There were lots of times that you could tell that the author had just shoehorned Star Wars into whatever half-baked idea they already had. The Black Fleet Crisis and Truce at Bakura standout to me in that respect. But I haven’t read those in twenty years.

What is the Black Fleet Crisis about? I don't think I've even ever read a summary.

Truce at Bakura I'm painfully familiar with, though. It and Courtship of Princess Leia seemed to solidify the EU need to show off the writer's New Thing at the expense of the Empire. "Hapan has ships WAY BETTER THAN STAR DESTROYERS, YOU GUYS!" or "The Emperor is totes afraid of these weird lizard aliens and their snub fighters." Zahn just... worked with what he had. (And what he had was a mountain of West End Game books.)

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Spookydonut posted:

counterpoint: no matter what author writes him lando is always lando.

I'm now retroactively irritated again they swept under the rug Lando and Mara Jade were casually hooking up.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

I always liked that Red Leader was from the southern part of the galaxy. I also oddly remember Pops, the last Y-wing pilot to bite it.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

nine-gear crow posted:

Oh god, what if she’s playing Dr. Aphra? :allears:

My goon, that role is reserved for Chloe Bennett. :colbert:

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Too late for Trench Run?

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Spookydonut posted:

The darksaber was made by an actual jedi who was also mandalore
:goonsay:

Traviss spinning in her grave from that sentence.

Sometimes I wonder, spitefully, if a lot of what Filoni did with the Mandalorians was him looking at Traviss' stuff and going 'ew, no.'

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Everyone posted:

I think that take ascribes way too much influence to Traviss.

Sure, but clearly Filoni's job is doing what we do - obsessing over Star Wars stuff but for a lot of money - so I still would not be shocked.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

I said come in! posted:

Those questions make no sense to ask in a earnings call. Besides, if they were considering getting rid of Kathleen Kennedy, it would have been over the disaster of the sequel trilogy, not because they fired a super racist rear end in a top hat.

These people have hated Kennedy since Rey existed, possibly or even probably before.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

nine-gear crow posted:

This AV Club article covers some of it. poo poo like how they they walked into their sales pitch with GRRM empty handed and had zero experience doing television before. That they absolutely cocked up the original pilot and were dumbfounded when HBO gave them the chance to reshoot it instead of just cancel it outright then and there. They copped to not understanding the characters they were writing and left it up to some of the actors to do the heavy lifting when it came to defining who the characters were.

Lindsay Ellis had a great video (possibly more) on how the fact the actors were so good that DND just sort of wrote them so they were bland heroic people now, or bringing back story arcs that had long since run their course (CLEGANE BOWL AIR HORN).

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

I always liked what I was able to pull from the stuff Zahn hinted at (and he had to fight to be able to hint at anything). The Republic cloned people to fight... something and then went crazy or decided to go into business for themselves, or maybe both.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

TheCenturion posted:

The movie should have introduced more tension by having Amidala fighting to get the actual mission back on track.

Showing passion for something? That certainly doesn't sound like TMP.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Like that time people were asking for Darth names and he suggested "Plagueis".

There are the possibly trolling names he suggested for Force Unleashed 'Icky' and 'Insanius.'

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

sticklefifer posted:

A major reason I enjoy The Mandalorian (and Rogue One) more than anything else since the OT is because it's a proper sequel. No 30 years before, no 30 years later, just post-ROTJ shenanigans in the era that brought me to the dance. That was the fun thing I liked, and I never got more of it until now. I'll probably like the other spinoff shows set in that era more than anything set in the PT or ST eras too.

Part of the series' appeal did feel like it could have come right out of a West End Games book that focused on immediate post-Endor stuff.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

I still wish they asked Ashley Eckstein if she wanted to be Ahsoka first. I guess it's fine, though. I have my audiobook read by her.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

tsob posted:

While I agree with your basic point that Eckstein doesn't really have the physical presence to embody Ahsoka, I think "Anakin's cute teen padawan sidekick" is a pretty poo poo way to summarize Ahsoka outside the first season or two and not just outside Rebels. Fans who've watched a couple of seasons are unlikely to characterize her as cute or as someone primarily defined by her relationship to Anakin. Fans who've seen the last few seasons almost certainly wouldn't, given it's such a major plot point that she walked away from the Jedi order and is thus no longer a padawan (or sidekick) to anyone.

Yeah. Don't make me tap the sign, and by sign I mean posting the .gif of her decapitating four members of Death Watch at once.

That was in fairness to Everyone the running notion for Ahsoka when she first appeared, that was laser-focused at the 'Miley Cyrus set' to quote a review of the time, but the review came from the Clone Wars movie and nobody should be judged by that the least of their works.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

tsob posted:

I haven't seen Rise, so I stand corrected. I remember hearing people bitch about C3P0 dying and then coming back though, now that you mention it.

Yeah. It's not even the only 'oh, he's dead wait never mind' the movie pulls during its runtime.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

nine-gear crow posted:

Solo was perfectly fine, if completely unnecessary. But I think I'd like the Lord and Miller version of it a LOT better.

I went back tot he movie and enjoyed it a lot more in the theater, I just had to let my brain slide over the pointless need to explain every little thing. I think the most egregious was Han calling Chewbacca "Chewie" because the name that was a whole three letters more was too long to say. People have heard of nicknames. They get it.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Big Mean Jerk posted:

I forgot what an over the top badass they made Saesee Tinn in the Genndy Clone Wars series :allears:

It's also great for the only time ever Grievous is impressive.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Tell me again about the Shatterpoint!

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Butterfly Valley posted:

Yeah I don’t dislike him at all, and on consideration it’s probably a better idea to have player characters be somewhat bland and likeable to allow players to fill in the gaps themselves. I still would have preferred a bland and likeable female/alien/anything other than plucky young white guy #5367, for representation’s sake at least.

Playing as Merrin, maybe even just for a few sections, would certainly have been interesting. A whole game based around a Nightsister would probably not have gotten made, but it could be interesting.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Big Mean Jerk posted:

No one said it did. Those posts were making light of the kinds of angry incel fanboys who’ve been frothing at the mouth about Rian, Kathleen Kennedy, and women in general on YouTube and the like for the last four years and act like The Mandalorian is some miracle “*~true Star Wars~*” brought about solely by Favreau and Filoni.

Yeah. I bet the Fandom Menaces goofs will have multiple videos in the week.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Sanguinia posted:

That bit is so underrated, not only is it a really good subversion of expectations, its actually kind of a DOUBLE subversion, because even though he does the wrong thing the final dialogue he has with them leaves open the possibility that he was wrong about the side he picked, which plays back to his first conversation where he explains why he's jaded by showing that the MIC serves both sides of the conflict and gets rich in the process. He's given up on morality and defaulted to self-interest because he sees the sides as the same, but interacting with the good guys, while not enough to win him over, was enough to make him think twice.

TLJ is such a mixed bag and it's a shame you can't talk about it most places without people getting super upset you don't like it/hate it hard enough. Like that right there is really good but they've also got somebody explaining to the actual child soldier about oppression.

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Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Boba will be the Boyd Crowder to Tim Olyphant's Cobb Vanth. It's just going to be Justified on Tattooine.

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