what's the leftist take on space exploration

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exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

the leftist take is that it loving sucks op, and my "ideal america" would be sunk under the ocean.

# ¿ Oct 31, 2020 11:34

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# ¿ Apr 19, 2024 08:33

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

interesting how all the pro-space posts in here are saying soy face stuff like "cool and good", arguing that n.a.s.a. has ever been a force for good, etc.

# ¿ Oct 31, 2020 23:34

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

The Saucer Hovers posted:

nasa is the military
astronauts are soldiers
spacecraft are weapons

chain humanity to earth and forcibly prevent its escape

# ¿ Feb 3, 2021 06:32

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

climate change is bad. therefore, instead of investing in mitigation and adaption, we should trust troops and app developers to create, best case, a bunch of orbiting little st jameses.

gently caress you

# ¿ Feb 3, 2021 06:45

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

it's extremely telling that so much space propaganda is literally reheated 20th century colonialism lol

these are from na$a !

# ¿ Feb 3, 2021 07:48

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Quetzadilla posted:

there are ultimately 2 conversations happening in this thread:

-what's the leftist take on space exploration here in Earth 2021 and the foreseeable future

-what's the leftist take on the concept of space exploration hypothetically in the distant future after we're all long dead and have already achieved utopian post-scarcity fully automated luxury gay space??? communism

space exploration in the former isn't going to move the ball on achieving the latter. there is basically no scenario in which attempting to exploit space resources is actually a good answer to a particular problem/shortage/limitation we are experiencing terrestrially.

1) it loving sucks
2) it loving sucks

# ¿ Feb 4, 2021 06:20

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

shocker that the space perverts also believe in objective 'progress' and unreconstructed historical determinism lol. real dog-brained stuff.

and get this: they're all americans who discovered social democracy in january 2017 too!

# ¿ Feb 4, 2021 06:30

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

[drake no] hearing birds sing and feeling grass underfoot ever again
[drake yes] putting a big amerikan flag on the extraterrestrial commons

# ¿ Feb 5, 2021 06:18

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1379511583534161925

# ¿ Apr 7, 2021 09:33

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

The Saucer Hovers posted:

gently caress space

# ¿ Jan 5, 2022 05:54

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Maximo Roboto posted:

That's just because getting into space is expensive so it can only be done by the MIC or big tech. We need to mutual aid our way to a people's space program.

hahaha can you imagine an anarchist attempt at a space programme

# ¿ Jan 7, 2022 04:59

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

# ¿ Jan 10, 2022 03:37

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

they deserved it

# ¿ Jan 10, 2022 05:19

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

i say swears online posted:

gently caress that teacher

a.a.a.b.

# ¿ Jan 10, 2022 06:36

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

the kkkhallenger "disaster"

# ¿ Jan 10, 2022 06:42

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

rereading consider phlebas atm :tipshat:

i think the contempt for the escapist faction in cixin liu's "the dark forest" is the most i've ever felt represented in sci fi lol

# ¿ Jan 13, 2022 06:22

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

i'm a butlerian jihadist and i say that space exploration loving sucks !

# ¿ Apr 27, 2022 08:48

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Smythe posted:

culture book

# ¿ Apr 28, 2022 07:36

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

the culture books are basically about how interventionism is morally questionable even when you're a communist utopia with near-perfect information. i like how they don't really land on an objective answer, and also when the ships do incredibly sick combat manoeuvres over several pages but then you find out it all only took like half a second :wth:

# ¿ Apr 30, 2022 06:51

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

the milk machine posted:

ok this convinced me to finally check out these books. this was probably answered upthread but do i just start at the beginning?

nerds love arguing about this but imo just read them in publication order, starting with consider phlebas. compared to the others it's a little more space opera + portrays an outsider's view of the culture, so some people recommend starting with the second one.

fair warning that the author loves a downer ending lol

# ¿ May 2, 2022 07:04

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

did the 10 billion dollar satellite actually take colour pics, or are they photo shopped like usual

# ¿ Jul 14, 2022 08:34

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

first, i would simply invent an asteroid mining robot

# ¿ Jul 26, 2022 06:36

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

unwantedplatypus posted:

Do you guys gaze in disbelief everytime personal phones get smaller?

i've never had a bigger phone

# ¿ Jul 26, 2022 07:57

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

what loving space does to a mf

# ¿ Jul 26, 2022 21:12

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

example 1,000 of space guys all being pieces of poo poo:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/129545204/space-scientist-sent-womans-private-details-to-colleagues-and-family-broke-into-her-home

quote:

Dr Duncan Irving Steel waged an online campaign against a woman, sending her private details to her family, workmates and former partner. He created flyers and a Facebook page with her personal details, and broke into her home to gather �evidence�.

A space scientist who has worked for NASA and the European Space Agency, 67-year-old Steel was sentenced in Nelson District Court on Tuesday on sentences of harmful digital communication and burglary.

[...]

In late November 2019, Steel chose a night he knew his victim would be out of the house and used a ladder to climb through her window. Inside, he went through her laptop and documents, photographing them.

When he found her passports, he hid them behind the desk drawers, knowing she was due to go overseas.

When the woman returned home, she heard someone in her house. Worried, she asked a neighbour to help her check the home. Steel escaped through the laundry door.

After the burglary, the abuse continued, with letters and emails, and texts to the victim�s mother.

In January, police searched Steel�s home. As well as the victim�s personal information, they found flyers listing the woman�s full name, occupation and personal information. The text read �please photograph and post on ... social media.�

# ¿ Aug 11, 2022 09:26

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

https://www.al.com/news/2021/05/it-wasnt-justice-mother-of-2-girls-killed-by-alabama-astronaut-says-of-sentence.html

quote:

A former NASA space shuttle commander indicted on reckless murder charges in the traffic deaths of two girls pleaded guilty to reduced charges Thursday nearly five years after the crash.

James Halsell Jr., 64, of Huntsville, pleaded guilty to two manslaughter and two assault charges during a hearing in which relatives of the victims wore shirts emblazoned with images of 11-year-old Niomi Deona James and 13-year-old Jayla Latrick Parler, killed when a car driven by Halsell slammed into one driven by their father in rural Tuscaloosa County.

While Halsell could have received 20 years for each manslaughter charge and 10 years for each assault charge, a judge agreed to probation and ordered him to spend four years in prison without early release followed by 10 years on supervised release. Halsell could be sent back to prison for 16 years if he violates probation after his release, said District Attorney Hays Webb, who opposed the lighter treatment.

The former astronaut, who went to work in the aerospace industry after leaving NASA in 2006, apologized in court and was taken into custody immediately the hearing. Outside court, the girls� mother, Latrice Parler, said relatives weren�t pleased with the outcome.

�It wasn�t justice,� said Parler, who told the judge about the last time she saw the children and recounted the anguish of losing them.

�My daughters were amazing, beautiful, smart, strong little girls that could have been anything in this world if they had the opportunity to grow up, but that was taken from me and all of everyone else in this world,� Parler said. Halsell�s apology didn�t seem sincere, she said.

Webb said there were �no winners� in the case.

�It serves as a reminder that there�s a very fine line. You have someone who has been to space five times and, because of a bad decision on his part, wound up killing two girls,� Webb told The Associated Press in an interview afterward.

# ¿ Aug 13, 2022 05:59

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

it was a dui, the assault charges relate to the parents (who survived)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Schmitt

quote:

Schmitt's view on climate change emphasizes natural over human factors as driving climate. Schmitt has expressed the view that the risks posed by climate change are overrated and suggests instead that climate change is a tool for people who are trying to increase the size of government.[28] He resigned his membership in the Planetary Society primarily because of its Mars-first policy, but also because of its stance on global warming, writing in his resignation letter that the "'global warming scare' is being used as a political tool to increase government control over American lives, incomes and decision making. It has no place in the Society's activities. [sic]"[28] Schmitt spoke at the March 2009 International Conference on Climate Change sponsored by the Heartland Institute.[34] He appeared in December that year on the Fox Business Network, saying "[t]he CO2 scare is a red herring".[35]

In a 2009 interview with conspiracy theorist and radio host Alex Jones, Schmitt asserted a link between the collapse of the Soviet Union and the American environmental movement: "I think the whole trend really began with the fall of the Soviet Union. Because the great champion of the opponents of liberty, namely communism, had to find some other place to go and they basically went into the environmental movement."[36] At the Heartland Institute's sixth International Conference on Climate Change Schmitt said that climate change was a stalking horse for National Socialism.[37]

Schmitt co-authored a 2013 Wall Street Journal opinion column with William Happer, contending that increasing levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are not significantly correlated with global warming, attributing the "single-minded demonization of this natural and essential atmospheric gas" to advocates of government control of energy production. Noting a positive relationship between crop resistance to drought and increasing carbon dioxide levels, the authors argued, "Contrary to what some would have us believe, increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere will benefit the increasing population on the planet by increasing agricultural productivity."[38]

# ¿ Aug 13, 2022 06:51

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

https://twitter.com/nasaexoplanets/status/1561442514078314496

"other data" is doing so much heavy lifting lol

# ¿ Aug 24, 2022 03:54

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

# ¿ Oct 21, 2022 03:28

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# ¿ Apr 19, 2024 08:33

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
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example 1,000,000 of space "photographers" being liars

https://twitter.com/JMannhart/status/1743656658209738939

# ¿ Jan 8, 2024 05:35

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