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DogsInSpace!
Sep 11, 2001


Fun Shoe

oh but seriously I posted:

shocked that men find women desirable while also despising them

I know this is probably a belaboured point but don't these people have sisters and/or moms they like? Even close cousins or whatnot that let them know :females: are just another person like them? I'm not a brilliant man nor highly educated but even I grasp this. Balls, I have an older sister who whinges about not being able to find a nice guy and other such nonsense despite devoting 90+% of her life to the less fortunate. We humans are hosed up fleshy diamonds, chock full of imperfect, beautiful facets. We all can be slobs and get snotty and we can all be wundabar and groovy. Stop putting people on pedestals or demonizing them when they don't do as you would. Who cares if someone does "X" as long as they aren't hurting anyone? If you don't personally agree with their actions why care so much? Why stick up for massively heinous corporations that blatantly want to control the employees they use and abuse? Again I know most here are cool but why are so many not? Rarity: can you be the scoopsgal for general human nature as well as wrasslin?

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NowonSA
Jul 19, 2013

I am the sexiest poster in the world!
As a perpetually broke person, I naturally like ideas like Yang's "give everyone a basic income" and Sanders' "eliminate college debt." My brokeness also makes really hate WWE's regularly scheduled "lets get more money and screw people over" initiatives, since it sucks to see people get shafted out of their jobs or income, even if they were making way more than I do and have much better future job prospects than me.

JUNGLE BOY
Sep 23, 2019

NowonSA posted:

As a perpetually broke person, I naturally like ideas like Yang's "give everyone a basic income" and Sanders' "eliminate college debt." My brokeness also makes really hate WWE's regularly scheduled "lets get more money and screw people over" initiatives, since it sucks to see people get shafted out of their jobs or income, even if they were making way more than I do and have much better future job prospects than me.

no one is saying the things he says aren't good, but he is a grifter through and through

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
I'm saying it as Yang's basic income plan was absolute dogshit because it basically would also have abolished the entire social safety net.

JUNGLE BOY
Sep 23, 2019

Cerebral Bore posted:

I'm saying it as Yang's basic income plan was absolute dogshit because it basically would also have abolished the entire social safety net.

was there even a plan? his whole campaign was just one line memes

Kvantum
Feb 5, 2006
Skee-entist

Cerebral Bore posted:

I'm saying it as Yang's basic income plan was absolute dogshit because it basically would also have abolished the entire social safety net.

Why wouldn't a UBI replace or at least incorporate most of the social safety net? Welfare, SNAP, even social security. I'd figure we just roll those all into it and adjust the UBI accordingly based on overall income, age, etc.

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

I abhor reddit as much as anyone else but looking at the squaredcircle subreddit, seems like most people agree that everything that happened to Zelina was bullshit? I'm really not seeing any of the terrible takes mentioned here or at the very least, the most upvoted comments seem to think it's bullshit how she was fired. Unless there's another wwe-centric subreddit I'm missing

Trying
Sep 26, 2019

I'm not 100% sympatico with Yang's economic philosophy but we shouldn't be too harsh as he probably posts here

JUNGLE BOY
Sep 23, 2019

DLC Inc posted:

I abhor reddit as much as anyone else but looking at the squaredcircle subreddit, seems like most people agree that everything that happened to Zelina was bullshit? I'm really not seeing any of the terrible takes mentioned here or at the very least, the most upvoted comments seem to think it's bullshit how she was fired. Unless there's another wwe-centric subreddit I'm missing

sort by new on SC tends to be dominated by vincels shaping the early narrative on posts.

as posts reach "hot", the more reasonable people start to see these posts and the narrative begins to get more reasonable. when i read that thread shortly after it was posted, it was absolutely dominated by the "makes sense, OF is porn", "she deserves it" crowd

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
yang’s politics are dumb but at least he seems to earnestly mean well

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Kvantum posted:

Why wouldn't a UBI replace or at least incorporate most of the social safety net? Welfare, SNAP, even social security. I'd figure we just roll those all into it and adjust the UBI accordingly based on overall income, age, etc.

That wasn't what Yang was proposing, tho. Yang's plan was to give everybody a thousand bucks and if that's not enough then gently caress you.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Cerebral Bore posted:

That wasn't what Yang was proposing, tho. Yang's plan was to give everybody a thousand bucks and if that's not enough then gently caress you.

Sounds familiar

JUNGLE BOY
Sep 23, 2019

using my $1000 yang money to buy the fiend replica title

Karma Tornado
Dec 21, 2007

The worst kind of tornado.

every landlord saw the Yang plan and was like "ah so rent is going up a thousand bucks a month, okay"

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
Kill your landlord imo

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

Karma Tornado posted:

every landlord saw the Yang plan and was like "ah so rent is going up a thousand bucks a month, okay"

They also saw him lose and were like "ah so rent is going up a thousand bucks a month, okay"

NowonSA
Jul 19, 2013

I am the sexiest poster in the world!

Big Coffin Hunter posted:

They also saw him lose and were like "ah so rent is going up a thousand bucks a month, okay"

drat straight.

MotU
Mar 6, 2007

It was like she was evicting walking garbage.
Pillbug

DLC Inc posted:

I abhor reddit as much as anyone else but looking at the squaredcircle subreddit, seems like most people agree that everything that happened to Zelina was bullshit? I'm really not seeing any of the terrible takes mentioned here or at the very least, the most upvoted comments seem to think it's bullshit how she was fired. Unless there's another wwe-centric subreddit I'm missing

This always happens whenever anyone on this sub mentions reddit. There are a lot more people posting there so it is natural to see more bad takes but the majority still tend to be pretty reasonable. AEW threads are usually pretty positive, people tend to react how you'd expect someone to react over unjust things done to workers, the main problem that people seem to have is that a lot of people still enjoy WWE wrestling on there as well

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Kvantum posted:

Why wouldn't a UBI replace or at least incorporate most of the social safety net? Welfare, SNAP, even social security. I'd figure we just roll those all into it and adjust the UBI accordingly based on overall income, age, etc.
Because then it's not UBI.

But this is probably not the thread to discuss this.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



https://twitter.com/WONF4W/status/1328474313071071232?s=20

Count the guys ...

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

I thought that was John Silver for a second.

Trying
Sep 26, 2019

math checks out, ali and lee only count as 3/5ths within the Vince McMahon paradigm

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008


I'm stuck inside and it's almost tempting enough to find a stream and do some old school hatewatching. Then again I have the first nine seasons of The Simpsons I've been working through...

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Those retribution masks are so loving poo poo

Trying
Sep 26, 2019

or perhaps he’s wondering why kevin would shoot a show

Blaise330
Aug 13, 2007

GOD'S FAVORITE CHAMPION

AJ is the manager. Mega Ninja is the manager's manager.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Serious question:
How come Ali doesn't get a mask like the rest of Retribution?

Less Serious question:
Why doesn't Ali get a new silly name like the rest of Retribution?

Pylons
Mar 16, 2009

BrigadierSensible posted:


Less Serious question:
Why doesn't Ali get a new silly name like the rest of Retribution?

He gave them the names so they know what it feels like to be discriminated against because of their name.

Dimebags Brain
Feb 18, 2013





BrigadierSensible posted:

Serious question:
How come Ali doesn't get a mask like the rest of Retribution?


They decided Ali was the leader of Retribution day of so they didn't have any new gear planned and are too lazy to get him one

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Pylons posted:

He gave them the names so they know what it feels like to be discriminated against because of their name.

I love the incredible silliness of "I gave a black guy and an asian lady masks so they'd know what it was like to be discriminated against."

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



Or it's just a weird rip off of the dark order where their brodie didn't get a special numbers thing and also no mask

But that might just be a coincidence it's hard to tell which part of what got into the lovely WWE gimmick DNA

Dacap
Jul 8, 2008

I've been involved in a number of cults, both as a leader and a follower.

You have more fun as a follower. But you make more money as a leader.



BrigadierSensible posted:

Serious question:
How come Ali doesn't get a mask like the rest of Retribution?

Less Serious question:
Why doesn't Ali get a new silly name like the rest of Retribution?

Ali actually stopped wearing his subzero mask when he joined Retribution.

cauliflower jones
Nov 8, 2009

TheKingslayer posted:

I'm stuck inside and it's almost tempting enough to find a stream and do some old school hatewatching. Then again I have the first nine seasons of The Simpsons I've been working through...

the last 9 seasons of the simpsons are when it gets really good

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

cauliflower jones posted:

the last 9 seasons of the simpsons are when it gets really good

Yeah I went with that since I hadn't seen them since I was a teen and these are great. To bring this around to WWE I'm waiting for the Bret Hart cameo when Burns loses all his money.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

hehe

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!
I did some relevant journalisms:
https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1328490609104089104

Seams
Feb 3, 2005

ROCK HARD
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1328540297958133762?s=20

WHERES THE GAMESKEEPER

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Raw Results 11/16:
  • Detailed Results here.
  • Drew McIntyre opened the show to talk poo poo about Randy Orton and Roman Reigns. Randy Orton talked poo poo back from the Titantron. Miz and Morrison came out to talk poo poo to Drew.
  • A replay of all 8 times that Lana has been put through a table by Lana. Shayna Baszler and Nia Jax warned Lana not to tag in during their six-woman tag tonight.
  • Asuka, Mandy Rose and Dana Brooke defeated Shayna Baszler, Nia Jax and Lana in a six-woman tag. Lana was submitted after tagged herself in when Shayna looked to have Asuka beaten. Nia Jax put Lana through a table.
  • AJ Styles and the Raw Men's Team argued backstage and AJ found out for the first time his bodyguard speaks English. AJ also suggested a "tune-up" tonight against Retribution, whose stable so far has one victory to their record.
  • One of Bray Wyatt's puppets beat up a Miz Funko Pop.
  • Retribution's Mia Yim assaulted Dana Brooke backstage as she was fretting over Mandy Rose's shoulder injury.
  • On Firefly Funhouse, Alexa Bliss introduced Bray Wyatt who warned Miz not to cross him.
  • The New Day told The Hurt Business that they should be called The Jerk Business. They weren't eating lots of shrimp during this segment though.
  • Mandy Rose and Dana Brooke were reported as both injured and unable to compete at Survivor Series.
  • The New Day (C) defeated The Hurt Business (Shelton Benjamin and Cedric Alexander) to retain the Raw Tag Team Titles.
  • Sheamus wished Drew McIntyre good luck backstage for his shot at the title tonight, and gave him a sword.
  • Mustafa Ali and Mia Yim cut promos backstage for Retribution against AJ Styles and Team Raw.
  • Retribution defeated Team Raw (without AJ) in an 8-Man tag. Matt Riddle was pinned by Mustafa Ali. This is only the second win Retribution has to their name since being "signed".
  • Nikki Cross was interviewed backstage about Alexa Bliss. Jeff Hardy was angry about fliers put up by Elias accusing him of drunkenly running him over with a car.
  • Jeff threatened Elias backstage to stop accusing him of loving him up, or he would gently caress him up.
  • Miz did an in-ring promo, Alexa Bliss came out to intro Bray Wyatt and ended up brawling with Nikki Cross until Bray showed up.
  • Bray Wyatt defeated The Miz in a singles match, with Alexa Bliss being involved at ringside. The Fiend's music played as they were leaving the ring and the lights cut off... directly into commentary cheerily talking about upcoming matches.
  • AdWeek added Stephanie McMahon to their Most Powerful Women in Sports List.
  • Adam Pearce named Lacey Evans and Peyton Royce as being added to Team Raw's Women Survivor Series team.
  • Asuka was interviewed backstage. Angel Garza did another promo about giving a rose to any female viewers.
  • Mark Henry was watching on a Thunderdome Screen for Drew vs. Orton, which commentary kept insisting was a "main event worthy of Wrestlemania".
  • Randy Orton wasn't able to get counted out of his title defense against Drew, because WWE Management - who in storyline favor Randy and keep giving him chances - personified by Adam Pearce refused to let him leave and informed him the match was no-countout or DQ and there must be a winner.
  • Drew McIntyre defeated Randy Orton (C) to become the new WWE Champion.
  • Drew will now face Universal Champion Roman Reigns at Survivor Series.
  • GDT Discussion here

abraham linksys
Sep 6, 2010

:darksouls:
why did randy get the belt at HIAC, what

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Golden Bee
Dec 24, 2009

I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.
Why has Drew McIntyre been a face since January and he still has an evil theme? At least “broken dreams” was emo.

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