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I've been giving the Biden campaign the benefit of the doubt that he's minimally healthy enough to take office for another four years, but this debate is disabusing me of that trust. Trump's also spouting absolute non-sequitur nonsense, but he's doing so with vitality.
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bengy81 posted:I thought they were supposed to be fact checking this? The best way to think of it - the moderators have decided to stay completely out. Doesn't matter much with the optics solidifying based on Biden sounding like poo poo and flubbing stuff, from what I'm reading! Yay.
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I don't know why I try to follow this poo poo, it just fills me with such dread that it makes me useless.
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Jun 28, 2024 02:30
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The DNC really shoulda taken some cues from the chud lobby and broken out the pseudoephedrine for Joe tonight. Ain't gonna beat the GOP fairly, not now, not ever again.
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Kazinsal posted:The DNC really shoulda taken some cues from the chud lobby and broken out the pseudoephedrine for Joe tonight. That's the macabre joke of it all - no talk about drugged Biden on this one! https://x.com/seungminkim/status/1806500493344092452?t=jt8RwvQo6QoggTEmG9xluw&s=19
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Jun 28, 2024 02:36
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This never should have happened and I loving hope trump loses in November, because I really don't know what I'll do otherwise.
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Jun 28, 2024 02:37
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Pine Cone Jones posted:This never should have happened and I loving hope trump loses in November, because I really don't know what I'll do otherwise. 
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Jun 28, 2024 02:38
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LMAO “On January 6th…nothing happened.” Oh I bet Babbit’s mom is pissed
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Jun 28, 2024 02:41
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"His son is a convicted felony." drat, Hunter's political run is cooked
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Jun 28, 2024 02:46
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Nick Soapdish posted:"His son is a convicted felony." "About that Kettle..." said the entire tarpit
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:"About that Kettle..." said the entire tarpit "Just like you, man." - Omar Little
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Jun 28, 2024 02:54
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We had H2O
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Jun 28, 2024 03:03
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Joe with the exact first step for shoring up Social Security Trust Fund: Uncapping when high earners pay for it
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Jun 28, 2024 03:07
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Pine Cone Jones posted:This never should have happened and I loving hope trump loses in November, because I really don't know what I'll do otherwise.
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Jun 28, 2024 03:10
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Aceing cognitive test, best at golf, and lost weight LOL
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Jun 28, 2024 03:24
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Russia took land from Bush, and Obama? They didn't invade that Georgia, Donald.
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Jun 28, 2024 03:28
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Exactly Joe, talk about Trump being a loser who can't accept losing. Just hammer on that forever and ever
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Jun 28, 2024 03:31
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I turned it back on about 20 minutes ago and Biden had come to life, Donnie was continuing to regurgitate the same poo poo he has over the last 4 years. Too bad the damage was done.
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CBJSprague24 posted:I turned it back on about 20 minutes ago and Biden had come to life, Donnie was continuing to regurgitate the same poo poo he has over the last 4 years. Too bad the damage was done. That's basically the story of the debate from the journalist consensus. Biden was nearer to the truth, while looking and sounding like poo poo. Trump was very loud and energetic spouting complete and utter nonsense. Eventually, the nonsense piled up and Biden woke up some. But there will be a whole lot of democratic bedwetting and the party is already predisposed to that (see the 2012 freakout when Obama blew the first debate). That's already the story for everyone involved with the debate that isn't a voter.
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Jun 28, 2024 03:44
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genocide joe woke up enough to brag about golf
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Recap of the debate: https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1806519569885851875
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https://fxtwitter.com/thetomzone/status/1806521286958416252 I take back everything bad I’ve ever said about the Brain Worm
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The dumbest thing is that this was Biden after the debate: https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1806525054295085188 the drugs kicked in too late! No raspy voice or anything!
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Whatever I wasn't ever gonna vote for joe because he's a great debater. I do want to hear about whoever on his campaign set this up getting fired though. What a loving disaster.
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Jun 28, 2024 04:17
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Didn't watch the debate but consider this: if Joe's gonna fumble a debate it's probably best to do it in June so the low information undecided wormbrains will forget it by November. OK resume panicking now. I'm gonna do that too.
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I generally assume the low information undecided wormbrains are just going to vote for whatever right wing schlock they hear on the radio on their way to the polls anyways. Or blather incessantly on internet forums about how the only righteous choice is to stay home. See 2020's epidemic of #nojoeswingstate
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I hope they invent cryosleep soon so I can skip this part of the timeline¹ ¹ which part precisely? *gestures vaguely at the general environs*
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I know reactions are still forming but Nytimes, WaPo, & Guardian all have top stories discussing replacing Biden on the ticket. Dunno how that would work especially as nearly all primaries are done. I guess simple way would be him to remove himself & Harris takes over as she was voted on by primary voters, but probably not strongest option. But if they just switched in Newsom would that be legal, & how would the precedent work if parties could run whoever they wanted with no concern for nominating? I mean there must be some policy on the books if a major party ticket suddenly couldn’t run in September & had to be replaced. Huh kinda a mess.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:I mean there must be some policy on the books if a major party ticket suddenly couldn’t run in September & had to be replaced. Huh kinda a mess. Every indication is that the first step is Biden declining the nomination. After that, all the delegates appear to be released and the nomination becomes contested. 2008 was a preview, with all the bits related to super delegates and normal delegates. They all vote for whoever they want from there. The motherfucker of it, and why I lost / am losing sleep, is that Biden polls better than any replacement.
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bengy81 posted:I thought they were supposed to be fact checking this? How would one even begin to assess the truthfulness of “We finally beat Medicare”?
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I'm genuinely surprised that Biden straight-up called him a liar multiple times. The L Word has been scarce in past political arenas.
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Platystemon posted:How would one even begin to assess the truthfulness of “We finally beat Medicare”? That's the annoying part about the debate and Biden's dumb brain. He meant PhRMA, the drug manufacturing group. Legitimately a huge accomplishment killed by the stutter and old. Kith posted:I'm genuinely surprised that Biden straight-up called him a liar multiple times. The L Word has been scarce in past political arenas. Partly by necessity, as Donnie dances around issues or outright denies poo poo he said/did (like suckers/losers). Partly as the mid/post-debate excuse: NYT posted:“I think we did well,” he told reporters during a stop at a Waffle House in Atlanta shortly after midnight. Asked about Democrats’ concerns about his showing and calls for him to consider dropping out of the race, he said: “No. It’s hard to debate a liar.” Likely good that he's not ending the week with that debate, woof. Though that probably tells you his opinion about dropping out!
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we have this exact scenario play out in 2020, too? Biden does poorly in debate, everyone panics?
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we have this exact scenario play out in 2020, too? Biden does poorly in debate, everyone panics? 2012 is the best analogy, when Obama hosed up the first debate against Romney. If I recall correctly, the 2020 debates were way more muddled. Per Wikipedia, the first 2020 debate was dominated by constant trump interruptions, being a piece of poo poo, and catching COVID, so Biden won it 2-1. It was a "poor" debate because Donnie would just constantly be a shitbag and interrupt repeatedly, likely what you're remembering, and people hated it. The second was more normal (for trumpian standards) and Biden won it by less. It's very possible that everyone forgets this debate, if Biden runs around making campaign stops and interviews while Donnie's in court or feeling himself too much. The main consequence is this: https://x.com/amyewalter/status/1806511252186734756?s=19 Back in 2012, the Democratic establishment just wanted Obama to unfuck himself. Right now, Biden's debate performance turned democratic bedwetting into a firehose because nobody thinks he has it any more, all other options poll worse, and Donnie ain't Romney. Edit: but to back off the doomerism, voters currently have the memory span of a goldfish and Donnie just had the 2nd worst performance in debate history  Edit 2: plus, it's not like there's no precedent for a brain-broke democratic candidate coming back in the midwest after the worst debate ever https://x.com/igorbobic/status/1806659320219640114?s=19 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 13:12 on Jun 28, 2024 |
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we have this exact scenario play out in 2020, too? Biden does poorly in debate, everyone panics? He was coherent in the primary debate, which was crucial for him.
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Cugel the Clever posted:I hope they invent cryosleep soon so I can skip this part of the timeline¹ Wasn't there a Simpsons episode where someone opened their coffin, saw what was going on, and decided to close it again?
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CBJSprague24 posted:Wasn't there a Simpsons episode where someone opened their coffin, saw what was going on, and decided to close it again? https://youtu.be/zyuFnL5JcEw?feature=shared
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Every NYT columnist who has weighed in is calling for Biden to step aside, four so far. That’s a big deal in democrat circles, wonder if they are building up to a full editorial from the paper making the same recommendation.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Every NYT columnist who has weighed in is calling for Biden to step aside, four so far. That’s a big deal in democrat circles, wonder if they are building up to a full editorial from the paper making the same recommendation. Feels like it's important to remember stuff like this isn't based on any actual held beliefs or the like in the media. People are creating content. The internet made us all stupid.
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