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Jan 13, 2009

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Burning Beard posted:

I am actually connected with Larry Bond on Facebook and him and a bunch of other old school game designers are shockingly cool people with progressive political opinions. It's pretty refreshing to see people who built your childhood not be total chuds.

Goony child me was thrilled to meet Harry Turtledove at a book reading and he was super nice and answered questions about the space lizards. Also glad to see his twitter is progressive.

In the early 90s a cousin wrote to Bill Watterson and got a personalized response on beautiful color stationary of Calvin & Hobbes riding a wagon down a hill. Was so jealous.

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Burning Beard posted:

I am glad someone else remembered that game. I spent hours upon hours with the scenario editor re-creating Isandhlwana. I found it on one of those abandon ware sites and it holds up far better than many games of the era. I may even use it to teach ROTC cadets about the Battle of The Little Bighorn.

Anyone play Close Combat: A Bridge Too Far? Still my favorite WWII game, incredibly tense fights and one of the first times I played a game that had decent realism. Educational to see how British PIATs barely worked while nearly every German unit could wreck armor with panzerfausts. Thrilling when your anti-tank unit is down to their last rocket and takes out a King Tiger then the AI instantly concedes the map. Also was cool to see the morale system where five wounded guys who just bailed out of a tank are only interested in running away and will ignore orders to charge a house with their knives.

Was also fun to poke around the huge amount of video files. In a pre-YouTube era it was cool to see footage of Stuart tanks cruising down roads.

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AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Racism definitely factors into it. American forces on the European western front in WW2 were downright gentlemanly compared to the barbarity of their counterparts in the Pacific and their successors in Vietnam.

I remember an a story from Hastings Armageddon: The Battle for Germany 1944–45 where late in the war I believe some British medics foolishly went into a town still occupied by the Germans to retrieve casualties and a tank commander yelled at them that they got a pass this time, but if they did it again they would be taken prisoner.

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Jan 13, 2009

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Looking forward to months of chuds checking credit card bills and still being charged for monthly donations to trump that they’ve tried to cancel five times.

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PookBear posted:

lol germany only did a surface level denazification, all the industry leaders and bankers that were nazis got off scott free

SS officers Werner Von Braun and Ferdinand Porsche got to host Disney tv shows and be remembered as luxury auto pioneers respectively, instead of spending the rest of their lives in prison.

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AreWeDrunkYet posted:

If there are crimes committed, good. Is there an american president from the last half century who shouldn't be in prison? Carter and Obama might have avoided committing US felonies, but the ICC would be warranted in taking a crack at them. The rest of the should be rotting in US prisons.

What did Carter do that would get the ICC after him?

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Jan 13, 2009

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ManMythLegend posted:

I'm :lol:ing that the solution here is: "Fox News, but lefty."

I'm cracking up just trying to imagine what their editorial positions would be. Leftists can barely agree on how to spell Marx's name, let alone run a major news and opinion outlet with a unifying message.

Leftists' general hatred for everyone other than themselves is why mobilizing in the US has never happened outside of isolated policy issues. For Christ's sake, this very thread had leftist edgelord's come in here and call anyone who was happy Trump lost a centrist shill because of whatever reason is currently striking them.

But sure, it's clear that a 24/7 news outlet is the best solution to the US's partisan divisions even without ideological unity on the left, and would never become nationally broadcast proof why the left should never be given power.

They tried this in 2004 with Air America. Was bankrupt in 2.5 years. Why yes, Janeane Garofalo, Marc Maron, and Al Franken were involved.

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Jan 13, 2009

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I know reactions are still forming but Nytimes, WaPo, & Guardian all have top stories discussing replacing Biden on the ticket.

Dunno how that would work especially as nearly all primaries are done. I guess simple way would be him to remove himself & Harris takes over as she was voted on by primary voters, but probably not strongest option. But if they just switched in Newsom would that be legal, & how would the precedent work if parties could run whoever they wanted with no concern for nominating? I mean there must be some policy on the books if a major party ticket suddenly couldn’t run in September & had to be replaced. Huh kinda a mess.

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Every NYT columnist who has weighed in is calling for Biden to step aside, four so far. That’s a big deal in democrat circles, wonder if they are building up to a full editorial from the paper making the same recommendation.

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Hyrax Attack! posted:

Every NYT columnist who has weighed in is calling for Biden to step aside, four so far. That’s a big deal in democrat circles, wonder if they are building up to a full editorial from the paper making the same recommendation.

And there it is: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/28/opinion/biden-election-debate-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.3E0.PXZR.XKqNDbe13I7E&smid=url-share

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I’d disagree with dismissing concern as groupthink, I got texts from family members who’ve voted democrat far longer than I’ve been alive & aren’t online doomscrolling & they were distressed by Biden’s performance. When Obama stumbled in first debate with Romney it was concerning but I don’t think there were any serious calls for him to drop out as the incumbent. This feels more like watching Mariners closer walk the bases full, get him outta there & go to the bench.

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facialimpediment posted:

Basically the Shutdown Fullcast approach:

Filled with shame my first thought was the Emperor has only been on life support for 10,000 years

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Jan 13, 2009

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From nytimes:

quote:

After Gov. Josh Green of Hawaii, a physician, asked Mr. Biden questions about the status of his health, Mr. Biden replied that his health was fine. “It’s just my brain,” he added, according to three people familiar with what took place — a remark that some in the room took as a joke, including Gov. Kathy Hochul of New York, according to a person close to her. But at least one governor did not, and was puzzled by it.

Really not ideal when two candidates have said there is nothing wrong with their behavior that can’t be attributed to brain problems.

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That's good, anything to make it easier for people to vote. Didn't know how lucky I was to be in WA where you get a mail in ballot with plenty of time to do research, and if you really want extra security drop boxes are everywhere.

I was confused about why other states hadn't adopted that system or why anyone would need to stand in line for hours (on a dang non-holiday weekday) before realizing it's intentional to suppress returns. Family friends teach at University of Ohio so are stuck in lines for hours each time with no other options.

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Holy cow that’s dire. I know time comes for us all but dang even with the best makeup money can buy he looks 91.

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facialimpediment posted:

All previous responses aside and keeping within the bounds of the post, this is essentially why I tend to lean towards replacement. The quickest arguments:

[list]- Biden will likely get the chance to replace 2-3 Supreme Court justices next term, likely reversing the recent abysmal decisions.
- A massive set of tax cuts expire next year. Biden will keep the cuts for sub-$400K earners and soak the rich for a lot of the rest.
- In the event of an all-Democratic Congress, Biden will pass a federal law codifying Roe vs. Wade's abortion protections. If unable to pass a law, he'll continue to defend maximum distribution of abortion pills.
- Biden will continue to support Ukraine to the maximum extent that Congress will allow

For Supreme Court, won’t that require at least 50 senators & hope there isn’t one conservative democrat holdout? Guessing if Dems don’t have senate all judicial appts stop. I think that was one of the reasons they kept Feinstein propped up so long.

I think yeah a Dem president could probably get the tax & Ukraine support through even without a majority though would likely need concessions.

Don’t think codifying Roe is happening, would be filibustered for sure & would need a supermajority. Time to do that was 2009, along with shoring up voting rights.

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Platystemon posted:

I can’t look for it on nytimes.com because of the paywall.

Supposedly it’s there.

Non paywall link to their ongoing coverage: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/13/us/biden-trump-election?unlocked_article_code=1.7E0.0heO.jFXH-eW1iYH-&smid=url-share

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lol c’mon, at least suggestions of Hillary involve someone who is a democrat. Lifelong not-terminally online/galaxy brained democrats would be confused & upset about why their party has decided to put a republican on the ballot.

West Wing seems to have fallen into ER/NYPD Blue levels of irrelevance, haven’t heard of anyone watching it in at least a decade. At least they spent a ton on the Oval Office set so it was reused in the superior cultural projects of Red Alert 2 & X-Men 2.

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Unexpected bonus to Dems that they get to pick a VP in response to Vance. I don’t think they’ll go galactic brain tactical but it is an opportunity as GOP can’t make candidate changes in response.

Another plus is we won’t see that dark Brandon meme anymore. Clever at first but was getting cringe especially when his team was trying to use it when we wanted to know if he was mentally incapacitated.

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Tiny Timbs posted:

I'm sure they had "Just try to take this guy's keys away" cued up and ready to go

lol yeah. Years back but when family wasn’t sure if keys should be taken from grandpa he kept them until low speed collision in grocery store parking lot then it was time. Such an awful way to do it, like that Calvin & Hobbes about driving heavier & heavier trucks on a bridge until it collapses then you know the weight limit.

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Kazinsal posted:

Wheeeew. If that man isn't on the VP ticket, even purely as a strategic pick, I don't know who would be.

I've seen Mark Kelly floated, but swinging Kentucky somewhat to the left seems like a bigger strategic win.

I know it’s not realistic & they need to focus on PA/MI/WI before even considering running up the score, but fun to daydream of GOP losing core red states. Not sure if Texas or Florida would be funnier… Florida.

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Wonder what this means for RFK’s impact. He already had a bad series of months with internal problems & big events with the major party candidates taking up the airwaves. Feels like a lot of his appeal was as an alternative to two unpopular nominees but that’s weakened so now he seems like just the anti-vaccine guy.

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facialimpediment posted:

He's looking for a cabinet post in the trump administration. Fits the theme of masks coming off, with the comical thing that Donnie told him no.

https://x.com/jdawsey1/status/1815427888860000475?t=rZ5EsAE7DBl8hdDg5VCqIA&s=19

Huh wonder why not accept, a tiny bump could make a difference & if he loses again whatever & if he wins he can just not do it & RFK couldn’t do anything about it.

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Neat at work today how people were much more upbeat, not thinking it’s a sure think but more of holy cow this is a step up.

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For sure, I remember reading in history books how a major problem in the late USSR was ancient leaders handing off power to other old guys & it being bad for morale & reform. And none of those guys were close to 81.

Not just Biden, Pelosi & Bernie need to stop running for reelection & let a new generation get in.

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Handsome Ralph posted:

I can only speak for myself here, but I figured when I voted for Biden/Harris in the primary that I was also essentially voting for Harris as the nominee as well considering Biden is 81 loving years old, and poo poo happens a lot more often when you're north of 70.

So like all the people whining that they're mad that it's Harris, and that Dems had Biden stolen from them, I don't think the majority of those people ever planned on voting for Biden, let alone any Dem candidate.

Lol my primary ballot is sitting unopened on a table as I have until August 6th to mail it in, to make sure my voice is heard. Late rear end WA state.

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Nick Soapdish posted:

I think Vance is gonna be jettisoned by the end of the month, mid-Aug latest

Hmm maybe but that would look desperate & an overreaction to Harris moving up. And could run into problem of who would be an improvement, especially if it gets vibe of sinking ship they might have trouble getting an A lister to agree to join up.

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pantslesswithwolves posted:

gently caress police unions, though.

Was it the Houston police union that had such an absurd contract the city had to pay for divorce attorneys?

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Watched Biden’s speech, ok but dang struggling with short format while seated with teleprompter. Surprised getting out of race was a “close call”

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Zamujasa posted:

it is nice to see that, having completed its decades-long mission to hollow out the rest of american politics, the right is now hollowing out itself :v:

please continue to undermine the rest of your party, donnie. you're doin a heckuva job

Holding out hope driving out the non-fanatic RNC staffers & unchecked grifting will mean continued stream of state GOP offices having power shut off & falling into infighting as incompetents can’t manage winnable local elections.

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Stultus Maximus posted:

Also, Trump gave them the first candidate to vote for since George Wallace.

Learned the threat of him running & bleeding off enough electoral votes to cost the GOP elections was a favorite way of segregationists to get concessions from the GOP, & why Strom narrowly defeated getting rid of the electoral college.

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Coasterphreak posted:

What should really astound you is that a politician voluntarily gave up a chance to remain in power.

Yeah, especially how tons of people who were checked out now have a reason to be engaged. It’s interesting how I’ve heard no good arguments that in retrospect Biden should have stayed, other than some bad faith columnists who also insist Harris needs to stop firing up the base & giving down ballot candidates relief & instead wait for an open convention.

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Coasterphreak posted:

My tinfoil hat brain half thinks Biden stayed in the race as long as he did to make sure Trump dug himself a nice deep hole. If that was the galaxy brain plan, it fuckin worked

Well it looks like it’s working out that way but I really doubt it was intentional, especially the part of Biden humiliating himself during the debate & trump getting shot at not derailing the scheme.

Although it is fascinating how badly trump is struggling to pivot from Biden to Harris. Especially how went from democrats doing a lot of the work for him being mad at Biden, to huge crowds & hordes of thrilled volunteers & Vance is being a weirdo.

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Wingnut Ninja posted:

It can definitely look like that in hindsight, seeing how smoothly everything transferred to Harris and how much enthusiasm it generated. I 100% believe it was accidental though, both because that would be a hugely risky strategy, and because lol the Democrats.

My one small bit of tinfoil hattery is that there was a lot more work going on behind the scenes prior to Biden dropping out to get people lined up for Harris. I know that's contradicted by things like accounts of Biden advisers getting one minute notice before it was twote and Harris' husband hilariously leaving his phone in the car while meeting with some friends when it went down. But the idea of something going that quickly and without drama for the Democrats is hard to fit into my world view.

Oh yeah nytimes had an article about how that day she was prepped & ready & made over a hundred phone calls to democrat powerhouses to solidify her candidacy. It was noted this display of energy from the executive branch was a relief.

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I’ve won as many elections as Vivek & Andrew Yang combined.

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Saw happy Harris supporters waving signs over freeway today. Wouldn’t have thought the result of that debate would be excellent for democrats but here we are.

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I know it’s still an extremely unlikely scenario but would be fun if trump meltdown like if he quit in October or something depressed GOP turnout so much they lost statehouses in deep red states, if just for the shenanigans it would uncover after decades of one party corrupt rule.

Like in Arizona where the new governor found massive new desert developments had been green lit despite knowing there was insufficient water, or in Ukraine when they threw out the bad president in 2014 and found had a private zoo & restaurant that looked like a pirate ship.

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Does Walz have any baggage? Seems good but dunno if missing something.

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bulletsponge13 posted:

There is no good justifiable reason we do not have universal- well, anything besides suffering- free breakfast/lunch. It's a net benefit for everyone involved.

Oh 100%, even from a cold hearted perspective it helps boost brain & body growth so they’ll be more productive workers & able to be drafted.

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bird food bathtub posted:

Holy poo poo, dems doing the smart thing. Are we sure the fabric of reality wasn't torn when the large hadron collider was turned on?

Haha yeah it’s weird they’re making good calls, although I’ll take it

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