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Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

pantslesswithwolves posted:

Well the news has hit the streets because some woman was jogging right behind Lando and I and then screamed “WOOHOO!” causing both of us to jump out of our skin and Lando to bark at another dog so please celebrate responsibly friends

Lando is ok now though right? That would ahve traumatized my pets for a good bit but they're cats.

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Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

Spoggerific posted:

Maybe a dumb question, but are we going to be getting tally updates on the weekend, or will things just shut down until Monday?

Per the 538 crew look for dumps around 11a and noon Eastern from NV and AZ. PA hasn’t been following a regular cadence for updates, and GA is effectively meaningless with it all going to recount anyway.

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.
I’ve always framed it as a Biden Presidency was going to be largely focused on unwinding the crap that Trump has done. Not just in restoring our relationships, but rebuilding the nation’s soft power and basically bringing the nation back to a place roughly analogous to 2015 or so Obama.

Yes, this is not great, but it is progress from where we are today. I have no illusions that a Biden / Harris admin will defund ICE or anything of the sort. He’s going to be a caretaker ala Ford and hopefully just be a footnote in history largely glossed over when people talk about the last 75 years or whatever.

I’m very keen to hear about his cabinet nominees and who fills State, Justice, Commerce, and Energy.

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

bird food bathtub posted:

Who do I have to bother for a gang tag, how does this stuff work?

McNally in the Sherman’s BBQ thread.

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

Qtotonibudinibudet posted:

US history education generally focuses not very much on the rest of the world beyond the base level, and certainly doesn't tend to go into depths on the particulars of how and why cult of personality regimes form.

people are maybe kinda vaguely aware how, say, north korea (as the most prominent modern example, sorry turkmenistan) functions, but don't necessarily study that sort of thing in detail

Your pre-uni history covered anything with DPRK or even the Korean War? We went WW2, JFK, Cold War, fall of USSR,America is best thing ever.

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

Tiny Timbs posted:

Props whenever a union negotiates such solid benefits

I’m leaning towards all unions should be as powerful as police unions.

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

facialimpediment posted:

Linking because it's a big batch, but more data that the swap-out worked and it's tied.

https://x.com/umichvoter/status/1816957417835356254?t=j94stFGwZJMLsCfsjAow3w&s=19

I've seen other polling that basically says the same thing - Kamala's hitting Joe's highest numbers right now and it's all margin of error poo poo. Not much more to it than that, equally winnable by either side, arguably with way, way more Kamala upside.

The “Harris Honeymoon” effect. Hopefully they settle higher than Joe but I don’t think they’ll remain this high until November. I believe that most voters are still in the imprinting stage of the Harris candidacy, which will end eventually as they get to know her better and where she stands on various issues, and therefore result in shedding some voters as a result.

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

Cugel the Clever posted:

Why do you think this can only go down as she campaigns? Her ability to get out there and vigorously sell a forward-looking message is a key difference from Biden. I'd guess she stands to bring out a bunch of low-info voters who were generically dissatisfied with Biden.

Because at the end of the day Harris the candidate will crystallize in voters minds like Biden and Trump already are and some voters will opt to choose someone else or not vote.

We’ve see this in many cycles in the past where a candidate is hot and polls well then fades because of one reason or another. As noted above there are two more potentially positive boosts coming for Harris with the VP pick to help secure a state, and the formal nomination. But these bumps are ephemeral, and ultimately only imply that we’re going to see something closer to a 2020 election vs a 2012 election.

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

maffew buildings posted:

good point, like that time in 2016 all polling indicated Hilary was going to win. thank you for words about how we shouldn't think Harris can drive voter turnout or whatever. drat, I was excited, but now I know better. past results dictate what happens in the future. wow.

Sorry I’m a pessimist? I try and keep a level of detachment when considering these things. Just kind of how I’m wired.

The good news is that Harris is polling significantly better than Biden. The bad news is that her numbers will likely retreat. But the polling results in 85% of the states won’t matter. This election will likely come down to just a few states - AZ, MI, MN, NV, PA, WI, and to a lesser extent GA. Of those key states, the single most important state is Pennsylvania. Harris likely makes that a Democratic win.

If she can secure Pennsylvania she can then win one of the others and basically secure the victory. Before Biden MI and MN were in danger and WI, NV, and AZ were likely lost. GA wasn’t really even in play, Harris has changed all of this. By bringing GA back into play, there is a very reasonable chance she can secure another massive voter turnout in the greater ATL area and have a win there like Warnock and Ossif rode to victory in 2020 / 2022.

What I was trying to convey is that we’re seeing temporarily high polling numbers that will likely settle lower than they are now. This is expected and will likely still be better than Biden. Harris being the nominee is unequivocally A VERY GOOD THING, I just don’t want to see panic when things slip in a few weeks.

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.
I feel the resources would be better spent in winnable states like GA, PA, AZ, WI, and NV vs 2600 people in Florida. Hell throw money at NC instead of FL and it’s retirees.

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.
Keep in mind the state that is pivotal to Dems is PA, if they can winPA the path to 270 is considerably easier and negates AZ and NV. Everyone will hype up WI, but PA is the lynchpin.

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.
My brain tells me it’s Shapiro with the idea he’d be able to swing PA. My heart tells me it’s Waltz who can help attack the right and help defend Harris from leftists undermining her agenda.

Which means it’s going to be Bashier or whatever his name is from KY and we’ll get to see how weird he is.

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

facialimpediment posted:

I was looking for a one-pager recap on this story from June (note: PRE-WEIRD) and found it:

https://x.com/billscher/status/1820091139300761970

they know how weird they are

Oh yeah I mean who doesn’t always ask for harp teacher recommendations?

Speaking of which, anyone know of a good harp teacher in Southern Ohio?

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.
drat that yahoo answers meme popped into my mind.

President Kardashian in MY America?
It’s more likely than you think.
Yahoo Answers.

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

Flikken posted:

Ohio is only as Blood Red as it shows since it is heavily gerrymandered.


A Gerrymander constitutional amendment is on the ballot in November

Based on FL’s anti-gerrymander amendment this just means they’ll readjust the lines to match county / city limits and effectively keep the gerrymander.

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

Mappo posted:

I'm hopeful for a turn around now that they are no longer under G/O Media.

Yeah. It really seems like the new owners at least get the essence of The Onion and see it as more than just an IP to exploit.

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

boop the snoot posted:

Considering he was a senior enlisted, this is the most damning evidence against him of stolen valor.

When even I as a civvy know it is wrong for anyone doing PT without the belt I must agree. SMH. Too late to swap to that creepy robot dude from Kentucky?

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

:patriot:

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.
Anyone have any idea how licensing music works for politicians? Trump regularly gets lambasted by artists for using their music but nothing ever seems to come out of it. Is it one of those things where artists don’t own their catalog and so don’t really have a say in who licenses their music?

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

ZombieApostate posted:

It's almost as if the people who already have a platform from being in public office need to use that platform to change public opinion on the matter by speaking out against genocide, consistently and repeatedly, in general and especially in specific about Israel/Palestine.

So, as documented above, commit political suicide and lose in the primary or general when well funded groups like AIPAC start running ads against them.

Corey Bush represents a D+27 district, majority minority, fairly young (median age is 35), literally one of the safest districts to voice a pro-Palestine opinion in the country. She lost her primary due in large part to AIPAC running ads against her.

Jamal Bowman represents a D+20 district, again majority minority, median age is closer to 40, again one of the safest districts to voice opposition to IDF in Gaza. Lost in his primary too.

The cold hard truth is that on this issue taking a stance other than full throated support for Israel results in you losing your job. Americans are unable to differentiate between the Jewish People and the nation of Israel.

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

Grip it and rip it posted:

Hmmm I've been reading a bit of news from different sources about the threat of a looming recession :( The timing of this couldn't possibly be worse.

A recession has been looming for the last four years. It was always the most likely outcome of the fed trying to tackle inflation. The fact that it hasn’t happened yet is a credit to the federal reserve and their policies.

But a recession happens roughly every ten to fifteen years since the 1900s. We’re due and won’t know it until we have two successive quarters of negative gdp and likely already coming out of it by the time the general public hears of it.

Any recession we’re likely to have will be closer to the 1991-92 recession then the 2008 one.

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

Grip it and rip it posted:

I think combined with the drying up of excess household savings, increased credit card debts, increased delinquencies, and softening job numbers, the idea that you should ignore historical bellwethers is asinine. I guess I don't have as unflappable a faith in the 3 line rationales that were provided in that article.

Nor should you, but a recession is likely to mimic 1992 in that it’s going to be relatively short and shallow vs what we saw in 2007-2009 which was long and deeply impactful to the rest of the economy.

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

Leave posted:

I'm sorry, I'm trying to learn about politics and stay informed; I use this forum a lot as ya'll don't seem like completely crazy people. The issue is, I'm kind of stupid, don't know enough about politics to filter things out properly, and it's confusing.

Keep asking questions here, everyone has been more than helpful explaining things whenever I’ve asked a question. IMO GIP is fairly even keeled and not prone to panic, but we’re not as well versed in random leftist ideas and how they’re being viewed by the online community.

quote:

Huzzah, I feel some measure of fear leaving me. That's a lot of it; I'm trying to be informed because there's a lot of frightening poo poo out there, and Trump is trying to accelerate it, and I don't want that to happen, but I'm just an idiot schmuck, so I've gotta hope someone else can do it

Just keep that positive vibe, it will be close but hopefully a win for Harris and sanity is in the making.

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Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.

Itchy_Grundle posted:

That or "ACE Tomato Company"

Whoops, OPSEC...
IDGI :(

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I also like “Use this one mom!”

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