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Tiny
Oct 26, 2003
My leg hurts....
I'm cheering for death until the election.

Literally, the grim reaper in robe with scythe that takes souls to whatever is next after their bodies die. I'm cheering for that motherfucker to show up for EITHER candidate. Both would be best.

if trump dies in his sleep, poo poo'll be OK.
If biden dies in his sleep, poo poo'll PROBABLY be ok.

If neither dies and we actually have an election of cryptkeeper vs cryptkeeper? poo poo will NOT be OK, because once again the dems are running the only goddamned person on earth who could possibly lose against someone as insane as trump.

Trump would lose to a sentient ham sandwich, but he'll win against a more-senile more-older person with no charisma left to sway the american people, who are largely very stupid and vote on emotions.

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Tiny
Oct 26, 2003
My leg hurts....

MonkeyFit posted:

I don't understand how people aren't seeing the cult status that Trump has garnered. Or do they just not realize what kind of power cult leaders can wield?

We have a lot of unfounded and misplaced faith in humanity and human decency.

Even those that realize it's a cult think it's like mormons or moonies, not full-on authoritarianism with a military and nationalism mixed in kind of cult.

Tiny
Oct 26, 2003
My leg hurts....

Madurai posted:

I keep hoping Tammy Duckworth will run, but she keeps stubbornly not doing so.

Goddamn.

*chef's kiss*

Tiny
Oct 26, 2003
My leg hurts....
That one sets off my BS detector a bit... But who knows. I wish I could fast-forward to 2 weeks from now and see how poo poo settles.

Tiny
Oct 26, 2003
My leg hurts....

bulletsponge13 posted:

It sounded off in the video, which was why I assumed it was a stunt at first.

I'm going to bed he missed either from a unzeroed optic, or he didn't account for the bullet drop as 9mm goes subsonic.

I think 9mm is sub at that range, but I'm probably wrong.

You absolutely know better than I do on this topic, but the one video with the audio feed from the mic trump was talking into had a slight delay between the little thwack of a rifle round going past just a teeny bit before the boom from the gunshot reached the mic. Maybe. I'm guessing.

Tiny
Oct 26, 2003
My leg hurts....
Evil is winning not because good people refuse to do anything about it, but because the Dems can't stop loving infighting and play to win. The good people are fighting the other good people, and the evil people are slowly winning.

Yay.

Tiny
Oct 26, 2003
My leg hurts....

McNally posted:

It would also make Trump look like he made a mistake, which I don't think he'd ever let happen.

I could be wrong, though. Often am.

There are ways for trump to make vance voluntarily drop out (or cease to be a viable candidate) where he can go "drat, what a shame, so here's sarah palin!" and never have to admit making a mistake. He's spent his whole life doing that poo poo, he's not good at it but he's good at getting away with it.

Tiny
Oct 26, 2003
My leg hurts....
Don't forget whatever the Swifties are going to get up to when they mobilize.

Tiny
Oct 26, 2003
My leg hurts....
Quote a trump-hating but mostly conservative / republican acquaintance: "The democrats found an old white guy I actually want to vote for. Goddamnit."

Tiny
Oct 26, 2003
My leg hurts....
Anyone who doesn't agree with me isn't a real American leads to some pretty goddamned dark places...

Tiny
Oct 26, 2003
My leg hurts....

Kazinsal posted:

There's a significant overlap between the combination of long-term multi-generational educational withdrawal, exposure to leaded gasoline, and Trumpism. I fully expect in a decade or so there'll be dissertations written studying these people and what caused them to be the way they are/were.

Yup! Don't forget the media bubbles that happen to Old People who sit in front of a TV screen 12 hours a day. It's not that grampa's a fascist rear end in a top hat, it's that grampa doesn't have the media savvy to know he's rooting for the fascist assholes because they keep saying they're on his side like Bryant gumble and Paul Harvey used to be.


People under 50 that show up to trump rallies? Yeah probably assholes of one flavor or another.

Tiny
Oct 26, 2003
My leg hurts....
I went to school in a very rural area in VA, which at the time was top 10 in public education in the US. For me, It just reinforces that there are good and bad rednecks. Schools were well funded and staffed, had a vo-tech program for welding and car, computer, and HVAC repair. Had a few oddball teachers, some in a good way. You weren't expected to go to college because there wasn't one within a 2 hour drive. Everyone in my age group just wanted to get that HS diploma, turn 18, and get the gently caress out of that small town hell.

Farming and tourism were the only jobs that existed, it was kinda a rich area full of poor folks like me and everyone around me.

I'm really glad I grew up before the camera phone era.... Unsupervised redneck teenagers in the woods with access to guns and farm equipment equals soooooo many technical felonies that would be life ruining if they wound up on YouTube like they would these days. Half the dudes in my highschool were volunteer firefighters because there was simply nothing else to do.

Tiny
Oct 26, 2003
My leg hurts....

CBJSprague24 posted:

When did people start suggesting that if Trump wins, Vance will immediately invoke the 25th Amendment and overthrow him to cement a MAGA state?

In my echo-chamber social group, right after the VP debate.

Vance is scary because he's Peter Thiel's daytime familiar, except he's GOOD at talking and not sounding insane. Vance is the one to be afraid of. Trump's dementia-brain is honestly a better outcome as president than Vance's almost-literal-vampire overlords getting a muppet president who welcomes their hands up his rear end.

Tiny
Oct 26, 2003
My leg hurts....
Personally, I think a huge contingent of middle aged married women are going to pay lip service to trump socially but then actually pull the lever for Harris where nobody can see because Roe was a huge loving deal and they're done with trusting hubby knows best.

Throw in a bunch of pissed off motivated Puerto Ricans and I'm.... Vaguely Confident the orange one will lose.

I'm much less confident about a peaceful transfer of power in January :(

Tiny
Oct 26, 2003
My leg hurts....

Plastic_Gargoyle posted:

In their case it's never about actually doing or solving anything, it's about Being Right.

You can't build anything using that kind of spite and hatred, not really.

Wrong. You can build up a lot spite and hatred in a lot of stupid people with guns, and then they'll go out into the community and Be Right at the cost of a lot of innocent lives.

I don't think that's the PLAN, but I'm pretty sure the GoP will go "Oh no! Anyway, how's the market looking?" if and when neighborhood pogroms start.

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Tiny
Oct 26, 2003
My leg hurts....

Zamujasa posted:


it's going to come down to how much the dems can manage to stonewall and throw poo poo in the gears, and otherwise just run out the clock. if they keep everything lovely but survivable maybe we'll have another chance in 2028.


Now watch the democrats complain about DECORUM while doing nothing, as a we slide into a 4th goddamned reich...

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