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I think dropping Biden in favor of Harris is doable and probably not the worst idea (tho I actually mostly think Biden has been pretty good), but if it's gonna happen it needs to happen now or everyone needs to shut up about it. Like this weekend or never. Trying to get anyone else on the ticket for president besides Harris seems like a disaster. The FT is reporting senior democrats etc. think Biden will be out by Monday, and if so, great, let's move on. The sooner someone starts reminding everyone how scary and insane Trump/Vance are the better, bonus points if they can promote a positive vision for the future that isn't just 'see those guys? they're nuts, we are still bad, but we aren't that bad'. Harris doesn't have much charisma and doesn't inspire a ton of love for sure, but she isn't a million years old, isn't Donald Trump, and isn't Joe Biden, and she would shred Trump in a debate.
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Yeah I'm not 100% sure it was the right decision, but there is relief in the decision being made and there being a path forward. To quote Charles Dickens' Sam Weller, 'It’s over, and can’t be helped, and that’s one consolation, as they always says in Turkey, ven they cuts the wrong man’s head off.' It seems like at least so far folks are mostly falling in line behind a Harris candidacy. She may not be the ideal candidate, but she's definitely sharp and doesn't appear senile.
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facialimpediment posted:https://x.com/NBCPolitics/status/1815513414749577565?t=FqGJSn1PExrJCYoPhiJ-Mg&s=19 I’ve always thought Harris was goofy and awkward and a weird speaker (without really listening to many of her speeches) but having seen a few more clips of her like the speech at the White House this morning and whatever cooking lesson someone posted somewhere, I’m not really sure where I got that impression. She seems like a decent enough, relatable speaker? I’m very glad she’s going on the attack right out the gate.
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facialimpediment posted:Ordinarily, it's an absolute waste of time for a democratic presidential candidate to spend a single minute in the state of Indiana.
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Vortex Street posted:Trump filed an FEC complaint to keep Kamala from getting Biden’s campaign funds. Wait I thought trump hated politically motivated lawfare???
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orange juche posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbmlTaQyW5Y It's gonna be real funny how racist they are even when they're actively trying to not be racist. Like 'black people will love trump because he's a criminal now too!' poo poo.
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Mr. Nice! posted:That conviction is likely to be overturned because part of the evidence used in trial was an official act that cannot be introduced at trial. There’s a reason his sentencing hearing was canceled.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Yeah, it would be pretty awful if the US had a female leader, something no other country has ever successfully had. Margaret Thatcher, famously walked all over by world leaders, definitely not an icon of the right, definitely not nicknamed 'the iron lady'.
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Elviscat posted:Man, that Walz guy sounds like a real good dude. Yeah 25 years in the national guard, high school teacher and football coach, good midwest Lutheran, seems like a real salt of the earth guy who balances attacks against Harris of WEST COAST LIBERAL!! But turns out he's actually much further to the left than Harris, he just seems like the normal one! Beshear brings alot of those same qualities in terms of 'not a scary minority lady from the Democratic People's Republic of Kalifornia', as did Roy Cooper. Shapiro is kind of the opposite to me. Actually more centrist than Walz (maybe not Beshear?) but doesn't come off as a normal guy in the way Walz/Beshear do and seems much more like a scary east coast liberal. He really reads 'politician' to me. Even though Beshear is just as much of of a career politician, he plays the normal guy a bit better.
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If a high school football coach doesn’t have a DUI, are they really a football coach?
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hobbesmaster posted:Is it the same for NG NCOs? Por que no los dos?
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facialimpediment posted:gently caress
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Fragrag posted:There is something very reassuring how after seeing the whole internet fawn over Walz, I checked this thread for a more level-headed take and it's pretty much the same attitude. I mean Walz was a great pick, but to be a Debbie downer, this is exactly how the republicans felt going into their convention after Trump had been shot. This too shall pass. Once the republican nasty attack ads start rolling out and they get their poo poo more together, it’s not gonna look so rosy. The economy is still growing but it has definitely slowed down over the last few months, and even tho the rate of increase in inflation has flatlined, prices are still high and wages haven’t entirely caught up and it’s had a very really effect on people in fixed incomes. It’s likely still going to be a very close race, but having an enthusiastic base is super important and that’s a big change from three weeks ago. I think the democrats are genuinely excited for the first time since Obama, republicans continue to be angry and scared.
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Soylent Pudding posted:Bon Iver playing Battle Cry of Freedom at the Wisconsin rally: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF3yUlCajVs CW: some archaic c.1863 language https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKss9jF2Yxw
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Cythereal posted:...I did not have 'Republicans get racist against German-Americans because of the Democratic VP' on my bingo card. Genius idea to pick a fight with the single largest ethnic group in the US. 'German' is the most commonly claimed national ancestry in the US, with 17% of Americans claiming some German ancestry in 2012.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Listen to Walz talk to unions. He can talk to them at least as well as Biden used to: "We won that race as a means to an end. It's not about winning races so you can bank political capital for the next race, you win races so you can burn the hell out of that political capital to improve people's lives" is apparently what I've been waiting to hear a politician say my entire life. That's what we need. e: "I hear your members say this-'look, I'm just not into politics.' And fair, that's their opinion, but it's my opinion to respond back to em, 'Too drat bad! Politics is into you!'" is a great line too. Dude's a great speaker. Kaiser Schnitzel fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Aug 9, 2024 |
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stealie72 posted:Unions are in an. . . interesting place right now. Their leadership obviously knows what party will at least make mouth noises about helping workers, while their rank and file is so caught up in panic about who they might be pissing next to that they've gone chud.
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facialimpediment posted:The UAW gets how you need to react to these things, if just for PR purposes:
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Zamujasa posted:(image from tweet) Love the optics of trying to relate to normal americans about high grocery prices in front of your mansion e: lol with the giant front door open letting all the AC out just to show off his american flag collection
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Grip it and rip it posted:Hmmm I've been reading a bit of news from different sources about the threat of a looming recession The bad news is that wages still haven't entirely caught up to make up for the price increases-especially in consumer goods and groceries-of the past year or three, so alot of normal people feel poorer (and in purchasing power/real terms, they are even, oftentimes even if they have gotten a raise). Anyone on a fixed income or lower-wage job that spends most of their income on necessities like food and rent and gas is hurting. Their dollars just aren't going as far. That all certainly effects middle-class households too, but there the issue is also that buying a house is stupidly expensive in alot of the country and that's not made any less painful by mortgage interest rates being pretty high. Basically 'the economy' is probably doing okay, but it doesn't feel that way to alot of people. Wages are still growing, unemployment is still low, some grocery prices do seem to be going down a bit, as are mortgage rates, and generally things are trending back to whatever 'normal' is, but there is still kind of a grey cloud hanging over how people (normal people and economists/markets) all feel about.
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Grip it and rip it posted:https://archive.ph/oyct2
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facialimpediment posted:Kamala's campaign appears to have hit a snag that I don't recall another campaign ever having to deal with before: too much loving money
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Crab Dad posted:He’s a small child being told by a friend about racial slurs that sound innocent if you didn’t know the background. Yeah I was gonna say, in plenty of areas in the South saying 'that's a *wink* democrat *wink* part of town' is another way to say 'that's a majority black area (so don't go there or obviously you'll get robbed/murdered/etc)' without sounding quite as racist to outsiders. Calling it the 'democrat party' is definitely an allusion to the idea that only black people in the South vote for democrats.
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There are so many contradictions in trump's 'policies' about illegal immigration. On the one hand, he's gonna bring down grocery prices, housing prices, and childcare costs. On the other hand, he's gonna deport millions of illegals, many- if not most-of whom work in agriculture/food processing, construction, and childcare. Somehow this will not raise costs in those areas. No I will not be taking questions.
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Stultus Maximus posted:I teach high school and most of my kids would find this petty and pathetic. I only had to see a picture of loomer to know she was crazy but yeah goin full insane middle school girl on her is a new level of nuts. Can some explain to me what ‘the Arby’s in your pants’ means? It sounds like a sick burn, but idk what it’s trying to imply.
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Kazinsal posted:She's implying that MTG has a large outer labia. Welp, wish I hadn't asked. These people are real obsessed with genitals
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facialimpediment posted:this dude was kinda everywhere ![]() Seems to have been good at getting major publications to talk to him.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Have wondered what would happen if a Deep South state like Alabama or Mississippi had enough unlikely events happen where the state government was set to become majority Black democrats. Guessing whatever steps they could think of to cling to power including abolishing the legislature/governorship or trying to merge with a neighboring state, anything to prevent the last several decades of records from being closely reviewed. Kaiser Schnitzel fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Sep 20, 2024 |
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fknlo posted:I don't think that Harris is going to win any true red states, but something definitely feels different this cycle. I'm seeing way less overt Trump stuff and have personally seen Harris signs in places I didn't expect. Very anecdotal and all, but it feels like there's been a shift of some of his support. Several other members of his upper-middle class Alabama family are the same-still voting for downballot R's but can't stand Trump. E: several of my under 40 cousins there have had the same swing. All went to college but run the gamut from doctors and lawyers to public school teachers and foresters, and they all voted trump in 2020 but I don't think they will this time. They're far from liberal, but all the culture war stuff that plays well 75 year olds just backfires on them, from immigration to LGBTQ to abortion stuff. They're mad at biden for inflation want lower taxes and hate a welfare queen and they sure aren't voting for Harris, but they just want trump to go away. Kaiser Schnitzel fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Sep 29, 2024 |
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Steven cheung's ability to spout vitriol at the drop of a hat is pretty impressive. I'm glad I'm not that bitter.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Marines are far Trumpier than the other branches. e: it actually does break out Hispanic/Latino! If we subtract that number entirely from 'white' (probably not entirely accurate) the marines are still the whitest by a few percentage points, and are also the most Hispanic/Latino. Kaiser Schnitzel fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Oct 13, 2024 |
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Soylent Pudding posted:In line for coffee this morning I heard two dudes talking about how Harris is too deferential to the "lunatic left" and she needs to prove she's less racist than Trump by unequivocally coming out in support of Israel and Ukraine before they'd consider voting in this election. The Joe Rogan demographic mostly thinks we are doing way too much for Ukraine IME, but I'm glad those dudes at the coffee shop were in support of Ukraine.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Did you know that you can input any old nonsense information into Elon Musk's stupid PAC pledge petition form? It'd sure be sad if the data harvest there got tainted. I feel like the Musk million dollar definitely not a vote-buying scheme is just gonna backfire-it's really gross to middle of the road normies. Usually the evil foreign billionaires influence elections quietly, doing it so brazenly and especially with is being so public and such a bizarre and disliked figure like Musk is not gonna win any friends. And it makes the Trump campaign look really desperate if the only way they can get people to vote for them is by paying them a million bucks.
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Crab Dad posted:He pulled her hand down to force her to come in for a kiss. Gross and awful but I don’t think he was trying to force her hand on his wee mushroom. It did look like an oft-practiced move though.
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Just nationalize SpaceX and let elon have all the fun he wants with his exploding cars and dictator pals.
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Handsome Ralph posted:This is my thinking as well. My MiL is a 70 year old boomer who didn't vote for Dem candidates till Biden in '20. She was meh about voting for him again and then Dobbs happened. She's been pretty enthusiastic about voting for Harris and Walz.
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Ronwayne posted:I wish there was some kind of angle to work with my folks. Dad is just a jackboot who was so disgusted with 70's NYC and think that's what democrats want to turn everything into and freelance polices calling in sighting of migrants in to the border patrol. He's also one of those scumbags who experiences sincere joy when someone is upset with them but can't do anything but fume. Mom rattles off stupid stories of our family in the old west and early 20th century and freaks the gently caress out when fox tells her about how they're cutting off baby dicks before aborting them or whatever. My parents luckily never went down the fox news rabbithole. My mom watches the local news (probably not much better) and my dad is a Wall Street Journal republican (but doesn't read the editorials). My great uncle was a super smart, kind, well-educated and travelled, broad-minded and tolerant guy but his wife and then him both got sucked into the fox news cinematic universe and there was no arguing with it. I remember a great Roy Blount Jr line from the bush years to the effect of 'different people hold different truths to be self-evident' and if you don't accept the same reality as someone else, it is really difficult to have a reasonable discussion with them.
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Handsome Ralph posted:I'm willing to pay for good journalism, even when I don't agree with every single take they publish, but the Post has gone to absolute poo poo in the last 3-4 years. This summer was the tipping point for me, I imagine the non endorsement was it for a lot of other people.
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This MSG rally is completely insane and unhinged and trump hasn't even talked yet.
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facialimpediment posted:word's out Maybe this is a new strategy to make Trump look sane and reasonable by only showing him in comparison with a bunch of even wackier wackos
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The timing of this couldn't possibly be worse.