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Vegetable posted:Parks and Rec was conceived in the early Obama years and it really fuckin shows. The relentless optimism and positivity and hopefulness. I was listening to a podcast recently where one of the hosts pointed out that, on top of this, there’s a major undercurrent of “look how much harder your boss works than you! Isn’t your boss great??” which also makes it harder to go back and watch after realizing that I still think it’s funny, but after having rewatched both the US version of The Office and Parks and Rec recently, I think The Office actually may have aged better
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Vegetable posted:Parks and Rec was conceived in the early Obama years and it really fuckin shows. The relentless optimism and positivity and hopefulness.
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Nov 12, 2020 20:34
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'tis offerma'am
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Sheen Sheen posted:I was listening to a podcast recently where one of the hosts pointed out that, on top of this, there’s a major undercurrent of “look how much harder your boss works than you! Isn’t your boss great??” which also makes it harder to go back and watch after realizing that Now I want to rewatch Parks & Rec just to see this pattern. Someone pointed out to me that on Seth MacFarlane shows, the characters have a thing where they unnecessarily explain what's happening and I can't unsee that either. On some level, I think I like when things are ruined for me. quote:I still think it’s funny, but after having rewatched both the US version of The Office and Parks and Rec recently, I think The Office actually may have aged better "Dinner Party" and "The Injury" belong in the television hall of fame, but The Office is hard to rewatch because of all the time they spent on Jim & Pam in the show's prime. Then as soon as Jim & Pam are finally together like everyone always knew they would be, the show unrelatedly gets worse. Also, Jim buying Pam the ring after their first date was the most stupid, cloying thing ever, and yeah I'm still unnecessarily mad about it. Michael & Holly were adorable though. sweet thursday posted:It's a sitcom lol It doesn't exist in a vacuum.
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YeahTubaMike posted:69 as a meme is funny, but the act of 69ing is distracting. That's why I prefer to L7
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Nov 12, 2020 20:53
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I saw his standup like a year after P&R ended and it was appallingly bad. Like unfunny monologues followed by the Swanson laugh which was the only thing the audience reacted to. A couple half-hearted attempts at blue humor that fell flat as well, and for a Boston audience. He had a quick cameo in the final season of The Good Place and it felt like a direct reference to his P&R character (though I know he's a woodworker in real life too). The dude needs some new material or I think he's doomed to be everyone's favorite character from that old show they used to like, I wonder if he's still alive or got MeToo'd, let's Google it.
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Nov 12, 2020 20:58
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Nick? Off her, man!
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He's Adele for men, OP
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https://twitter.com/PhilGreaves01/status/942709261347500032
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Lol this guy is just the worst.
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Paddillin the school canoe, you better believe that's a facisim.
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Nov 12, 2020 21:34
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Holy poo poo the 1:1 ratio. It's the perfect tweet.
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Nov 12, 2020 21:36
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His hair? FASCISM. His gear? FASCISM. His jewelry? FASCISM. His foot stance? FASCISM. The way that he talks? FASCISM. The way he doesn't even like to smile? FASCISM. Me? I'm Stalinist as FUC-
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Nov 12, 2020 21:38
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Socialism in one nation? Don't you mean nati-NOOOOO
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Nov 12, 2020 21:41
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Don't make posts about who I am IRL, OP.
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Nov 12, 2020 21:44
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If ironic detachment is fascist then sieg heil.
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YeahTubaMike posted:
You’re absolutely right that the Jim and Pam stuff can get to be really insufferable, but I was still surprised at how non-sappy The Office was compared to Parks and Rec where (almost) every single episode ends with a super-happy feel-good ending where everything is perfect and amazing. The Office has a happy ending overall, but there are plenty of low-points and dark(ish) episodes that see the characters in bad places interspersed with legitimately sweet and heartwarming moments like with Holly and Michael, and it just made that rewatch far more interesting to me because every episode didn’t end with “yay! Let’s all have a puppy cuddle party yaaaaay!” or whatever
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I like how Ron Swanson was made to be an unlikeable parody of conservatives and a representation of how useless they are but also how their uselessness is used as justification of why we need smaller government. Coupled that with all your basics of toxic masculinity and just stupid poo poo stupid people love to idolize like DAE LE BACON then nerds from the internet couldn't help but take it at face value and redoubled their cries of GOVERNMENT BAD BACON GOOD They later poo poo their pants when he pointed out that everything the character stands for is stupid.
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Nov 12, 2020 22:11
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Honestly he’s too well-rounded and sympathetic as a character to really work as a satire of libertarianism
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Nov 12, 2020 22:13
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They ultimately had to make him likeable and redeemable so I guess you're right
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Amy Poehler is actually brilliant. Sorry the show isnt a realistic gritty depiction of small town government for your miserable goon asses.
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I don't find his standup funny but I bet he's a cool guy and I'd chat with him at a party. I think it's great he and his wife have real passion for each other too.
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Nick Offerman is what happens when an actor keeps trying to do comedy without the actual writers that wrote the funny lines that made him famous.The_Continental posted:Amy Poehler is actually brilliant. Sorry the show isnt a realistic gritty depiction of small town government for your miserable goon asses. Amy Poehler is one of the owners and co-founders of the Upright Citizens Brigade, even if you ignore the long legacy of sexual assault and abuse and not paying their workers and general shittiness of that institution it means she's also directly responsible for them firing their entire staff in an email with no warning and then washing her hands of the whole thing when she faced actual backlash over it. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/14/theater/upright-citizens-brigade-reorganizing.html
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...of SCIENCE! posted:Amy Poehler is one of the owners and co-founders of the Upright Citizens Brigade, even if you ignore the long legacy of sexual assault and abuse and not paying their workers and general shittiness of that institution it means she's also directly responsible for them firing their entire staff in an email with no warning and then washing her hands of the whole thing when she faced actual backlash over it. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/14/theater/upright-citizens-brigade-reorganizing.html To be fair, improv performers don't deserve payment.
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Nick Offerman was directly responsible in the cost of Lagavulin creeping up by ~50% or more, so he kinda sucks for that.
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Sheen Sheen posted:You’re absolutely right that the Jim and Pam stuff can get to be really insufferable, but I was still surprised at how non-sappy The Office was compared to Parks and Rec where (almost) every single episode ends with a super-happy feel-good ending where everything is perfect and amazing. The Office has a happy ending overall, but there are plenty of low-points and dark(ish) episodes that see the characters in bad places interspersed with legitimately sweet and heartwarming moments like with Holly and Michael, and it just made that rewatch far more interesting to me because every episode didn’t end with “yay! Let’s all have a puppy cuddle party yaaaaay!” or whatever Right! Lessons aren't always learned on The Office, long-term relationships can be dysfunctional*, success isn't guaranteed, characters can be multi-dimensionally unlikable or likable, etc. Parks & Rec has no loving edge, and I ended up not even watching the last season because I couldn't deal with it anymore. *Ron & his ex-wives don't count because they're already exes. The Fattest PI posted:They ultimately had to make him likeable and redeemable so I guess you're right Even the villains on Parks & Rec were soft.  edit: The_Continental posted:Amy Poehler is actually brilliant. Sorry the show isnt a realistic gritty depiction of small town government for your miserable goon asses. I don't know if anyone's asking for perfect realism (although what I said about the system always working might have implied that, whoops). It's just that a non-children's show where everything is happy all the time is suboptimal. ...of SCIENCE! posted:[Amy Poehler's] also directly responsible for them firing their entire staff in an email with no warning and then washing her hands of the whole thing when she faced actual backlash over it. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/14/theater/upright-citizens-brigade-reorganizing.html I wish so much that I weren't paywalled here. YeahTubaMike fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Nov 12, 2020 |
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...of SCIENCE! posted:Nick Offerman is what happens when an actor keeps trying to do comedy without the actual writers that wrote the funny lines that made him famous. LOL at the lady in this article that tweets that she wasn't paid "for years", and instead was offered free classes. Honey, you weren't working, you were volunteering. The idea of contributing to an organization for years without a check and then tweeting about it just seems so silly. She could've left at any time, its not like her paycheck depended on it.
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The_Continental posted:LOL at the lady in this article that tweets that she wasn't paid "for years", and instead was offered free classes. Honey, you weren't working, you were volunteering. Something about improv and community theatre attracts the most desperate people.
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I saw Nick Dealman on some show about woodworking. He says everyone should work with wood because its so great, then proceeds to show off his warehouse of professional tools and lumber. lol the everyday man.
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He has a pretty drat impressive woodshop. Edit: that'll show me for hovering over the post button for two minutes.
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I went to a beerfest at a local brewery. A friend was like "my friend So-and-so Offerman works here" I was quite drunk at the time so I was like "ohh what is that Nick Offerman's brother?" She quickly shushed me and said "yes, it's his brother". I then saw a Nick Offerman looking guy mustache man and said "IS THAT HIM" very loudly. As a matter of fact it was. I don't really talk to her any more.
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SPACE HOMOS posted:I saw Nick Dealman on some show about woodworking. He says everyone should work with wood because its so great, then proceeds to show off his warehouse of professional tools and lumber. lol the everyday man. He's accumulated much of that stuff over the course of his life, and has been working with wood far before he was ever famous. Woodworking can still be a relatively inexpensive and rewarding hobby that one can get into with a relatively small amount of space and initial investment. DickParasite posted:Something about improv and community theatre attracts the most desperate people. Yeah its theatre nerds who never grew out of it (that's fine), but were never ever going to be funny enough to warrant people paying money to watch them stand up (not fine)
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SPACE HOMOS posted:I saw Nick Dealman on some show about woodworking. He says everyone should work with wood because its so great, then proceeds to show off his warehouse of professional tools and lumber. lol the everyday man. Woodworking is such a great, practical skill for regular people. Look, I could have bought a table at Ikea for $45 that would be functionally identical to this one I built that cost $200 and took a month to finish and will be a pain in the rear end to move with but it wouldn't let me larp as a pioneer man.
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P&R is good for like the first two seasons. Sitcoms always go to poo poo when they start trying to strengthen the relationships between the characters, IMO. The office was able to keep being funny for way longer as long as you ignore the Jim Pam stuff. Hot takes on wildly popular sitcoms.
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I've built boxes (recently a spray booth for airbrushing) and like to finish wood furniture. But not tons of people have the space (rental properties), nor time (lovely overworked jobs), to take a live edge slab and run it through planers or put it on a lathe.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:Woodworking is such a great, practical skill for regular people. Look, I could have bought a table at Ikea for $45 that would be functionally identical to this one I built that cost $200 and took a month to finish and will be a pain in the rear end to move with but it wouldn't let me larp as a pioneer man. 
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Sitting at my woodworked desk, eating a steak grilled on my well-seasoned cast iron skillet, sipping whisky (with whisky stones, not ice, this is important!!), tapping away at my mechanical keyboard and stroking my wet-shaved face like a godamned Sir.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:Woodworking is such a great, practical skill for regular people. Look, I could have bought a table at Ikea for $45 that would be functionally identical to this one I built that cost $200 and took a month to finish and will be a pain in the rear end to move with but it wouldn't let me larp as a pioneer man. ...of SCIENCE! posted:Sitting at my woodworked desk, eating a steak grilled on my well-seasoned cast iron skillet, sipping whisky (with whisky stones, not ice, this is important!!), tapping away at my mechanical keyboard and stroking my wet-shaved face like a godamned Sir. Go drink a Soylent and make the most of your Crunchyroll subscription then
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I recently revisited Parks and Rec, and the toxic masculinity shtick has not aged well at all. He was on Conan O'Brien's podcast with his wife, and they were absolutely horrible because they were doing their gimmick the entire time. The podcast episode made me realize he's one of those one note actors that will hangs onto a gimmick with a death grip until they've sucked all the life and money out of it.
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