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Xun
Apr 25, 2010





I'm just getting started and Idk whats going on TL;DR
1. ROLL ON NEWBIE BANNER. Spend primogems on the character banner only until you know what you're doing. Do not spend primos on the one that says "Wanderlust Invocation". More info about currency and banner pity are later in the OP
2. Until AR35 you want to be leveling up your team fairly evenly. Make extra sure your weapon, flower, and feather artifacts are leveled up for early survivability and damage.
3. Stay out of Dragonspine (the big snowy mountain) until you feel like you know what you're doing. This is a zone that was added after launch and is accordingly scaled for more built up teams.
4. You will eventually get a chest and oculus compass that will point you towards missing collectibles. If you want to keep track of oculuses and chests and don't mind getting spoiled you can also use the official interactive map here: https://webstatic-sea.mihoyo.com/app/ys-map-sea/index.html?lang=en-us#/
5. Come to discord! It's active I promise! https://discord.gg/Dxbk6ZTB2X


What is Genshin Impact?
https://genshin.mihoyo.com/en
Genshin Impact is a free to play open world exploration game with gacha mechanics. Itís available on mobile, PC, and PS4/5 with Switch on the way. The exploration gameplay is simple yet surprisingly engaging and combat consists of swapping between characters to pull off combos. This game has a star studded VA team in multiple languages, top notch worldbuilding, fun character writing, and a pretty decent story to boot. The story is not winning any literary prizes, but it's fun and dumb and has anime af fights.

Singleplayer? Multiplayer? MMO?!
This is primarily a single player game. Multiplayer exists but is limited in some regards. Exploration and puzzles only count for the world host and plants go to whoever picks it up first. Ores, monsters, bosses, and dungeons will drop instanced loot for all players. Multiplayer is primarily for hunting bosses in the open world and doing instanced dungeons together.

Should I whale? Do I need to?
You do not need to spend money on this game, the hardest content in the game has been cleared with only free characters. The free characters cover all roles, elements, and weapons types. In fact, one of the current meta DPS characters and her BIS weapon are both permanently free. Exploration, story, dungeons, are all free and can be done without trouble without even needing to roll on the gacha, much less paying. On top of that it is possible to work your way up to a reasonably diverse character roster over time using only currency you earn in game and it seems that events will also give out characters in the future. Overspending can actually harm your progress by encouraging you to spread your resources too thin.

That being said, if you have your heart set on a specific character expect the game to cost you. If youíre purely f2p, the flow of currency can feel sluggish. Not including any one time sources, exploration, or events, expect to get about 10-20 free rolls per month.

What should I play it on?
PC and mobile accounts are cross compatible and PS4/5 is standalone. No news on where Switch accounts will stand yet. I would personally recommend PC or mobile, Iíve heard the PS versions have many bugs and they have missed out on a few small promotions.

How to play with goons
https://discord.gg/Dxbk6ZTB2X

:siren: Link your account to your phone number :siren:
This is for security reasons, especially since there is currently an exploit that allows people to change your account email with no warning. You can do this by logging into the main website and going to account settings https://genshin.mihoyo.com/en/home



How to build a Character
There are four main ways to improve your character

Character levels - Pretty straight forward! Level up and ascend your character using xp books

Weapon levels - Level up your weapons using other weapons and magic crystals. There is also a refinement mechanic where you smash together duplicates (maximum of 5) to make the weapon stronger. In short, the level makes the attack and bonus stats go up, refinement makes the blue numbers in the special mechanic better. Refinement levels are nice to have but not necessary

Talents - The talent screen isnít just for telling you what a character's skills do, itís also where you level them up. The max talent level goes up as you ascend the character.

Artifacts - This is the meat of your character building. A level 80 character with bad artifacts will be outperformed by a 70 with good ones every time. At lower levels (<AR35) you just want to focus on getting some decent artifacts and leveling those, donít worry about set bonuses. Atk% is a safe bet for every slot for now, keep in mind flowers will always roll flat HP and feathers will always roll flat attack. Some characters (like Barbara and Noelle) have special mechanics that scale off different stats, but they are the exception. Donít worry about wasting XP on beginner artifacts, around 90% of xp is transferred if you feed a leveled artifact to another one.

Between all the different stats, set bonuses, character mechanics, weapon mechanics, etc, thereís a lot of optimization that can go on with artifacts. Iíve included a quick guide in the advanced section, but feel free to ask questions or mess around yourself!

Elemental Reactions
Elemental reactions are where the big damage comes from. Here is a handy chart!


How to build a team
There are 3 main roles in a team, the carry, supports, and healers. Some characters are better suited for one role over another, but many characters can fulfill multiple different roles depending on their gear.

Support - This is a character that you swap into to use their skill or burst and then swap away from. They are used for setting up elemental combos by applying elemental statuses or for some special character mechanic (buffs, debuffs, etc).

Carry - This is the character that you will be actually attacking with and will generally be either finishing the reaction or taking advantage of a completed reaction (ex. frozen or superconduct).

Healer - They heal! Keeps your party healthy with their skill or burst.

You generally want a team to have one carry and multiple supports built around elemental reactions. I find healers kind of optional for the overworld, but there is content that will basically require them so donít ignore them either! The endgame dungeon (spiral abyss) will eventually require two separate teams, so keep that in mind.

When starting out, you want to invest most of your resources into one carry character. They want the highest levels, best artifacts, best weapons, etc.

Support and healer characters do not need as much investment and can easily lag behind by multiple ascensions. Hell, you can even do end game content with level 1 supports. For the average player though, you want some reasonably invested supports. In general, artifacts and weapons are more important than actual character levels and they can easily lag behind by 10-20 levels. Just be careful about spreading yourself too thin!

Once you feel comfy resource wise, consider building up another carry for taking on the higher floors of spiral abyss. Different floors will require different team comps so invest lightly in the secondary supports until you know what you need.

As of writing this, most tierlists have been written back when the game just came out and are garbage. They were made in a rush and plenty of good characters were rated "D tier" for basically no reason other than to get clicks. Make a team based on your playstyle and preferences and don't let these rankings drag you down. More teambuilding advice in the miscellaneous Advanced section!

The Resin System
Yep, this game has a stamina system and itís called resin. You unlock it at Adventurer rank (AR) 8 and it is used to acquire most progression materials. If you want to play ~optimally~ you want to always use resin if you have it, but thereís so much content that doesnít require resin I feel like thereís nothing wrong with chilling out and ignoring it to do something else in game. This game is definitely about the journey, not rushing to endgame and grinding. In fact, even if you do rush to endgame youíll quickly find out that the resin system is specifically designed to NOT waste your time for hours and instead is meant to be used up quickly. Eventually you'll unlock a recipe to bank resin to be spent later. You can bank 120 resin at a time.

When you do feel like spending resin, here are some useful breakpoints

AR 8 - Blue leylines aka xp book leylines unlocked

AR 12 - Yellow leylines aka gold leylines unlocked. If you donít know what to spend your resin on, you canít go wrong with these at any AR.

AR 16 - Weapon Ascension materials dungeons unlocked.

AR 22 - Artifact dungeons unlocked, they will primarily drop 2*/3*. Not worth farming unless youíre really hard up for artifacts.

AR 27 - Talent level up materials dungeons unlocked.

AR 35 - A lot of unique artifact set dungeons unlocked. You will probably be getting 3* drops with the occasional 4*. You can start farming here but the value still isnít great.

AR 40 - This is when 4* artifacts become more common and you start getting 5* in dungeons. I started seriously farming artifacts here.

AR 45 - This is when 5* artifacts become more common.

Xun fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Oct 8, 2021

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Xun
Apr 25, 2010




So you've played a bit of the game and reached Adventurer Rank 7, at this point the game will just drop a ton of gacha nonsense on you. If you have no idea wtf is happening, read on!

What is a gacha?
In short, gacha is basically equivalent to lootboxes. Use currency to roll the dice and you have a low chance of getting something shiny but you will mostly get junk. Yep, it's gambling! Gacha games are common on mobile you might recognize games such as Fate Grand Order, Summoners War, Dragalia Lost, Marvel Battle Lines, etc. are part of this genre.

Know what you're getting into and set a budget if you want to spend. One trick I use is to stay far away from places where people post their rolls, I know it's fun to do so but it's effectively the flashing lights on a slot machine and will fool you into thinking the chances are higher than they are.

Banners
Banners are how you get more characters and non craftable 4*/5* weapons. Do you need to roll on them? Again, the hardest content in the game has been cleared with free characters and it seems like future events may give out more as well.

That being said, this is a waifu collector and realistically most people will probably roll a bit (even if it's just with the currency you can get for free). There are 3 main categories of banner, each with its own pity counter, plus one tutorial banner only available when starting out. The pity mechanic guarantees you one 4* every 10 pulls with the exact 5* rate differing between categories. The pity counter WILL carry through different banners, but only between the same category. That means if you roll a bunch on a time limited character banner and don't get a 5*, those rolls will count towards the 5* pity on the next limited character banner. Rolls on the standard banner or limited weapon banners will not count towards the pity threshold for limited character banners, but will count for their own type-specific pity counters, and vice versa. You can check how close you are to pity on each banner by clicking history. 6 rolls per page!

:siren: THE BASE RATE FOR A 5* CHARACTER IS 0.6%. I REPEAT THE BASE RATE FOR A 5* CHARACTER IS 0.6% :siren: Keep this in mind if youíre planning to open your wallet! Girdle the loins!!

Novice Banner
This is a special novice banner that every account can roll on 20 times. ROLL ON THIS BANNER. You're guaranteed a Noelle and at least one other 4* character. Itís also just straight up cheaper than the normal banners, so even if youíre just using the free bits of currency the game gives you, you should put them here first.

Character Banner
A time limited banner that prominently features one 5* and three 4* rate up characters. If you roll a 5* on this banner it is guaranteed to be a character instead of a weapon (though you can roll 4* weapons). This is the equivalent to event banners in other gacha games. If you're not sure if you're looking at a character banner, look for a countdown on it.

If you get a 4*, there is a 50% chance of it being one of the rate up characters, if it isn't your next 4* is guaranteed to be a rate up. Similarly if you roll a 5*, there is a 50% chance of it being the rate up and if it isn't the next is going to be guaranteed. The rate up 5* guarantee also carries over between banners. If you rolled a non rate up 5*, the next 5* is guaranteed to be a rate up character no matter which banner it actually is.

The pity timer for 5* is 90 rolls, this works out to a theoretical maximum of 180 rolls to obtain the featured 5* character. However, the soft pity mechanic starts increasing drop rates rapidly after around 75 rolls, so you're most likely going to get a 5* in the 75-90 range.

Weapon Banner
A time limited banner that prominently features two 5* and four 4* weapons. You cannot roll 5* characters on this banner but you can obtain 4* characters.

Similar to above, if you don't get a rate up roll for 4* or 5*, the next one you get is guaranteed to be one. If you get a 4*, there is a 75% chance of it being one of the rate up weapons. Similarly if you roll a 5*, there is a 75% chance of it being the rate up. However, this does not guarantee you a specific rate up 5* weapon and it is possible to roll the same one multiple times in a row. The pity timer for 5* is 80 rolls with soft pity kicking in around 67 rolls.

Standard Banner
This banner is always available and is labeled ďWanderlust InvocationĒ. It has no rate ups and contains both 4*/5* weapons and characters, basically a random grab bag. Currently it seems that 5*s on the character banner are not added to this, but it is common for them to be added later in gacha games. If you absolutely MUST have a specific character and they are not on the character banner, just....try to wait it out. They will probably get a character banner eventually. Standard banner rates suck and you could be out literally thousands of dollars and still not get whichever anime waifu youíre chasing.

Pity wise, you get a 4* every 10 rolls and a 5* every 90 with soft pity kicking in at 75. It could be anything!

10 roll? 1 roll?
There seems to have been some debate over whether 10 or 1 rolls on a banner are better. Iím preeettyy sure it works out to be exactly the same mathematically so itís really up to you. If you want to save a few rolls when chasing a 5* you could stop 10 rolling at around 70 and do singles until you get them.

The only exception is the novice banner, where you should only do 10-rolls since you get a bulk discount.

Wtf is with all these currencies?
How do you roll on these banners? Well there is some sort of Chinese gambling law that requires currencies to be obtuse and confusing, so here's a general breakdown

Genesis Crystals - You buy these with real money. You technically can spend these on supply bundles in the cash shop but those are TERRIBLE value and I'm pretty sure they're only there so genesis crystals technically have a non-gambling use. Cosmetics are now in and they also cost genesis. The main purpose of genesis crystals is to exchange them 1:1 fooorr

Primogems - The actual premium currency in this game. You can get them by exchanging genesis crystals, buying the monthly gem pass, doing daily commissions, quests, spiral abyss, events, open world stuff, etc. For straight dollar:gem value the monthly pass beats out the genesis crystal packs (provided you log in every day). You can spend primogems on resin recharges, battle pass levels, and most importantly, rolling on the banners!

Intertwined Fate - Costs 160 primogems. These can only be used on the character and weapon banners.

Acquaint Fate - Costs 160 primogems. The game also gives a few out for free. These can only be used on the standard and novice banners, so don't feel obligated to save them up.

You can buy fates directly on the banner page so you donít usually need to keep track of exactly which is which.

TL;DR
-Roll 20 times on novice banner
-Don't spend primos on standard banner unless you're rich or just don't give a gently caress.
-Donít buy the supply packs with genesis crystals


I hate my account

Ashenai posted:

By the way, probably nobody cares, but just for the record: it is no longer practical to reroll, because the AR 7 rewards are gone. So you only get the 10 newbie rolls.
Hereís a reroll guide anyway just in case idk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcYVj8Otsic

Co-op and you
Co-op in this game may seem somewhat obtuse. While domains (and some events) have an automatic matchmaker, that is not the only content in this game that you can co-op. Anything that requires resin can be done co-op, everyone can spend resin at the end and the rewards are instanced. Boss kicking your rear end? Team up and wreck it! Can't get that leyline weekly in time? Team up with some people so all of you can get a bunch in one day without needing to spend resin! Want to do the highest level of an event thing but it's just too much of a PITA? Find some goons!! We have a discord with a bunch of people in it, feel free to come by and say something.

Some things to keep in mind:
-Make sure everyone is ready to spend their resin before looting the thing, it seems like the flowers have a pretty short despawn timer and it may result in people missing out.
-ASK before grabbing local specialties, they are not instanced and will go on the respawn timer for the world host.
-If you get kicked for what appears to be no reason, don't be offended! There is literally no way to end a session without kicking everyone first.

Artifacts 2 electric boogaloo
So you have a nice stash of artifacts and want to start ~optimizing~. Hereís a quick rundown on what mainstat youíre probably looking for on each piece.

Flower/Feather:
Main stats are fixed to flat HP and flat ATK respectively, pray for good substats

Hourglass:
Possible main stats: Attack%, Defense%, HP%, Elemental Mastery, Energy Recharge
If character is used primarily for their e skill or attacking, get atk %
If character is used primarily for their q burst, energy recharge may be an option here

Goblet:
Possible main stats: Attack%, Defense%, HP%, Elemental Mastery, Elemental Damage%, Physical Damage%
If main DPS does white damage, get phys dmg %
If main DPS does elemental damage, get corresponding elemental dmg %
This is typically be your off-set artifact due to how finnicky it is to roll the exact bonus damage you want.

Headpiece:
Possible main stats: Attack%, Defense%, HP%, Elemental Mastery, Critical Rate, Critical Damage, Healing Bonus
It seems the meta has basically settled on Crit rate/Crit damage here. Exactly which one depends on your substat rolls and weapons, the idea is it keep a 1/2 ratio between rate/damage. Atk% also works here in a pinch.

Exceptions primarily exist for the hourglass if the character has skills that scale off a specific stat, for example Noelle/def% and Zhongli/hp%.

If you want more general character building advice (weapons/talents) you can check here - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gNxZ2xab1J6o1TuNVWMeLOZ7TPOqrsf3SshP5DLvKzI/htmlview?pru=AAABdprSFQ8*9XyMZ3FSVx2JzKaA272SpA

While the above can be general guidelines for a big dps build, I believe that playstyle is much more important. There's no shame in throwing on an energy recharge clock for easier burst spamming or atk% goblet to round out an interesting artifact set. In the end this is a pve game, do what's fun! Your deeps won't suffer that much.

ELEMENTAL REACTIONS
So you've got an idea of the basic reactions, now here's a more in-depth guide going into the specifics from a casual to theorycrafter level. There's a lot! this can be really important for getting those gigantic numbers
https://old.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/l5ip9y/3_levels_of_elemental_reactions_indepth_guide_for/

I have no idea how to build a good team!
Feel free to ask in the thread or in the discord, show us what characters you got and people can probably think of a good team! Still feeling lost? While this isn't perfect, there is a website where users upload their Abyss (end game dungeon) runs and teams. Since it is self reporting it won't cover all viable teams, but hey any of these are 100% guaranteed to be able to clear endgame content!

Araganzar posted:

My recommendation is get on https://spiralabyss.org/. Go to where you can build your own team and put in a couple of your best characters. Begin eliminating characters you don't have and look at the teams it builds.

Here is what I get when I put in Eula and XQ and take out a few of the people you mentioned for floor 11:


This list is very reductive and you'll have to really pare it down by forcing certain characters an removing others but it 100% will give you a team that can pass whatever DPS check you need.

Random Useful Links
Character and Weapon materials planner: https://genshin-center.com/planner

:siren:Mihoyo official interactive map:siren: It shows you where resources and notable exploration targets are! - https://webstatic-sea.mihoyo.com/app/ys-map-sea/index.html?lang=en-us#/map/2?shown_types=

Xun fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Oct 8, 2021

Xun
Apr 25, 2010



Reserved just in case

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007



Hi new thread.

Game is real good.

zgrowler2
Oct 29, 2011

HOW DOES THE IPHONE APP WORK?? I WILL SPAM ENDLESSLY EVERYWHERE AND DISREGARD ANY REPLIES

Klee should be in jail

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!


Good OP.

Maybe put in a note about how tiers are a suggestion at best and that the game can currently be cleared without even rolling.

Sirbloody
Aug 21, 2005

Don't fuck with the Rabbi!

Managed to get a Childe before pity last night and trying to figure out a decent team comp with him. I have 2 teams in mind but not sure how well they will work.

Team 1: Childe, Xing C1 (Or Diluc but I don't think I can have a good team with both of them on it) , Sucrose , and Bennet
Team 2: Childe, Xing C1 , Sucrose and Ningguan (C4 or 5 I cannot remember). No healer but hey shields

Team 1 would focus on vaporize Team 2 would focus on Elemental damage?

Currently I have the following unlocked: Childe, Diluc , Xing C1 , Ningguan C4 , Sucrose (C1 I think) , Beido C2 (or 3) , Barb C1 , Chong C1 , Noel (C1 or 2 ) , Diona , Amber, Keya, Lisa . Sadly it just might not be too viable for me to make a team dedicated to Childe just yet but I am trying to see what my options are.

RosaParksOfDip
May 11, 2009


Game pretty good. Definitely better on PC over Mobile but still serviceable on a phone.

frajaq
Jan 30, 2009

#acolyte GM of 2014




Remember to save up for Ganyu

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

Yogg-Saron fan #1


For a game this complicated there aren't that many noob traps. The biggest ones are:

1.) Don't refine your 4* weapons right away, prototype drops are super rare and even gacha 4*s you'll often want 2x of the same weapon (Favonious/Sacrifical weapons especially). This is imo by far the biggest way players regularly hurt themselves.
2.) Don't use primos to roll on standard banner unless you know what you're getting into
3.) Don't do any artifact domains until at least AR40 (I'm still waiting until AR45)
4.) Don't spend stardust on anything except the in-shop 4* or maybe pulls. You're given extra stardust at the beginning of the game but you accumulate it very slowly, it takes something like 140 pulls to get enough stardust to buy another 4*.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

Yogg-Saron fan #1


Sirbloody posted:

Managed to get a Childe before pity last night and trying to figure out a decent team comp with him. I have 2 teams in mind but not sure how well they will work.

Team 1: Childe, Xing C1 (Or Diluc but I don't think I can have a good team with both of them on it) , Sucrose , and Bennet
Team 2: Childe, Xing C1 , Sucrose and Ningguan (C4 or 5 I cannot remember). No healer but hey shields

Team 1 would focus on vaporize Team 2 would focus on Elemental damage?

Currently I have the following unlocked: Childe, Diluc , Xing C1 , Ningguan C4 , Sucrose (C1 I think) , Beido C2 (or 3) , Barb C1 , Chong C1 , Noel (C1 or 2 ) , Diona , Amber, Keya, Lisa . Sadly it just might not be too viable for me to make a team dedicated to Childe just yet but I am trying to see what my options are.
The comp I'm going to test out is Childe, Bennett, Xiangling, Xingqiu. The idea is you attack with childe and build your ult, swap to bennett (using Xingqiu's ult if it's up) and do Bennett's broken DPS/Healer/Ult recharge thing, drop gyouba and Xiangling's ult if it's up and swap back to Childe to ult and repeat the process.

Xingqiu is optional and in the abyss it would be more realistic to save that slot for whatever you need to counter the enemies.


Taking turns between Diluc and Childe sounds pretty sweet because they can set each others' ults up so well. But if it were me I'd be trying to split my 5*s up into two separate teams.

No Wave fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Nov 12, 2020

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

I actually gave my Razor an Electro Damage Up Goblet so I could give his Atk % Goblet to Xiangling and even out their damage a bit.

hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way


Used some of the gems mihoyo gave away and got a barb constellation, Diona and DILUC! right after the fire nerf. thanks mihoyo.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

No Wave posted:

For a game this complicated there aren't that many noob traps. The biggest ones are:

1.) Don't refine your 4* weapons right away, prototype drops are super rare and even gacha 4*s you'll often want 2x of the same weapon (Favonious/Sacrifical weapons especially). This is imo by far the biggest way players regularly hurt themselves.
Exception: Crescent Pike is probably fine to refine, because we're not getting another Polearm user for another month and there's no guarantee the Pike will be nearly as busted.


quote:

4.) Don't spend stardust on anything except the in-shop 4* or maybe pulls. You're given extra stardust at the beginning of the game but you accumulate it very slowly, it takes something like 140 pulls to get enough stardust to buy another 4*.
I'm going to assume you mean Starglitter? If so, I agree. Stardust can only be spent on 5 of each Fate per month and a bunch of upgrade materials.

Sirbloody
Aug 21, 2005

Don't fuck with the Rabbi!

No Wave posted:

The comp I'm going to test out is Childe, Bennett, Xiangling, Xingqiu. The idea is you attack with childe and build your ult, swap to bennett (using Xingqiu's ult if it's up) and do Bennett's broken DPS/Healer/Ult recharge thing, drop gyouba and Xiangling's ult if it's up and swap back to Childe to ult and repeat the process.

Xingqiu is optional and in the abyss it would be more realistic to save that slot for whatever you need to counter the enemies.


Taking turns between Diluc and Childe sounds pretty sweet because they can set each others' ults up so well. But if it were me I'd be trying to split my 5*s up into two separate teams.

I think I read somewhere that the water resonance isn't too good so it is not recommended to run 2 on a team.

As for the Diluc , yeah I will need to set up another team for him I am not too far into the Abyss yet so I do not need another team just yet.

Xaerael
Aug 25, 2010

Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.



Great OP, thanks for taking the reigns Xun!

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008

:gowron::m10:


OP doesn't mention that the game actually has a pretty charming story, as well as top notch worldbuilding and VA.

Paimon is best emergency food character

Hackan Slash
May 31, 2007
Hit it until it's not a problem anymore

Sirbloody posted:

Managed to get a Childe before pity last night and trying to figure out a decent team comp with him. I have 2 teams in mind but not sure how well they will work.

Team 1: Childe, Xing C1 (Or Diluc but I don't think I can have a good team with both of them on it) , Sucrose , and Bennet
Team 2: Childe, Xing C1 , Sucrose and Ningguan (C4 or 5 I cannot remember). No healer but hey shields

Team 1 would focus on vaporize Team 2 would focus on Elemental damage?

Currently I have the following unlocked: Childe, Diluc , Xing C1 , Ningguan C4 , Sucrose (C1 I think) , Beido C2 (or 3) , Barb C1 , Chong C1 , Noel (C1 or 2 ) , Diona , Amber, Keya, Lisa . Sadly it just might not be too viable for me to make a team dedicated to Childe just yet but I am trying to see what my options are.

Diluc+chong can carry the whole b-team, and chong doesn't play nice with childe anyway.

Childe likes sucrose for vv since all his damage is hydro. Xing is another good one because of the bonkers energy generation and xing ult. Could also do Beidou for burst when childe melee is down . I like your team 1 childe/xing/sucrose/bennet

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009



No Wave posted:

3.) Don't do any artifact domains until at least AR40 (I'm still waiting until AR45)

Addendum: if youíre thinking of doing them before then for the journal objective, thatís tied to beating the monsters, not spending the resin for the artifacts at the end. So as long as you donít take the reward you can get the clear without wasting valuable resin.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009



So, Stringless or Rust for Childe?

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Ibram Gaunt posted:

So, Stringless or Rust for Childe?

Rust is generally seen as the second best bow for him behind Skyward Harp from what I have read.

Sirbloody
Aug 21, 2005

Don't fuck with the Rabbi!

Hackan Slash posted:

Diluc+chong can carry the whole b-team, and chong doesn't play nice with childe anyway.

Childe likes sucrose for vv since all his damage is hydro. Xing is another good one because of the bonkers energy generation and xing ult. Could also do Beidou for burst when childe melee is down . I like your team 1 childe/xing/sucrose/bennet

Before I pulled Childe my main team was Diluc and Chong (With the Debate Club).

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

Yogg-Saron fan #1


Sirbloody posted:

I think I read somewhere that the water resonance isn't too good so it is not recommended to run 2 on a team.

As for the Diluc , yeah I will need to set up another team for him I am not too far into the Abyss yet so I do not need another team just yet.
Resonance doesn't really matter in general. Running another water with Childe is appealing because Childe can let other water characters ult on cooldown.

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008

:gowron::m10:


Tartaglia/Childe does so many small packets of damage aside from his burst, I feel like electro would be a more effective pairing than pyro. Beidou would be the best enabler for that, I think.

Tangerines
Apr 25, 2016



Think I'm going to give Childe, Mona, Bennett and Sucrose a go.

Radical
Apr 6, 2011



i kinda want to use c2 barb with tartaglia for the bonus hydro dmg but using her ult that much is probably overkill

Heran Bago
Aug 18, 2006





Excellent OP Xun. I think you can unlock a way to bank resin a bit? Not there yet on the Liyue quests.

Radical posted:

i kinda want to use c2 barb with tartaglia for the bonus hydro dmg but using her ult that much is probably overkill

If you get Thrilling Tales for Barbara, absolutely try it.

Heran Bago fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Nov 12, 2020

Tangerines
Apr 25, 2016



Heran Bago posted:

Excellent OP Xun.

It is an excellent OP. And the game is good.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005



zgrowler2 posted:

Klee should be in jail

The game is vague about whether Klee has actually killed/maimed anyone with her bombs.

Maybe that one locked door in the Dawn Winery estate is where they keep the corpses from Klee's hijinks.

edit: Oh dang, maybe this is the story behind Timmy's father

No Wave posted:

3.) Don't do any artifact domains until at least AR40 (I'm still waiting until AR45)

It seems pretty decent at AR40; I was getting a 5* artifact every other run or so. I haven't done much artifact grinding just because I need lots of other stuff more, but I did it once and was surprised at how much I got.

Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Nov 12, 2020

YES bread
Jun 16, 2006


I did a lot of artifact grinding at AR40 and 45 just feels a lot better because you get a guaranteed 1-2 5*

Magus42
Jan 12, 2007

Oh no you di'n't

Game plays like a dream on PS5; solid 60FPS.


Ibram Gaunt posted:

So, Stringless or Rust for Childe?

Stringless won't affect his melee damage, so not great.

Kild
Apr 24, 2010


Ibram Gaunt posted:

So, Stringless or Rust for Childe?

His daggers are considered normal attacks so Stringless doesnt seem to work on it from what people said. Slingshot also doesn't work.

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.




Lipstick Apathy

frajaq posted:

Remember to save up for Ganyu

Saving is so hard :(

Mistikman
Jan 21, 2001

I was born ready. I'm Ron Fucking Swanson.

I am hopelessly addicted to this game already.

One thing that bothers me is they didn't bother to go the rock/paper/scissors approach with elements, but rather making them good/bad based on how those elements theoretically would interact.

It makes logical sense, but it feels like poor game design.

If attacking with pyro, it is strong against cryo, hydro, electro, and dendro
If attacking with electro, it is strong against hydro, and not great against pyro (the combo damage is fire damage) and is special regarding cryo (combo damage is ice, but lowers physical resistance)
If attacking with cryo, it is strong against pyro, hydro, and electro
If attacking with hydro, it is strong against pyro, useless against cryo, and weak against electro (combo damage is electric)
Geo can be used to break geo shields, but once the shield drops, geo slimes are immune to the damage, making it really awkward against certain enemies.
Anemo is just great in general against everything that isn't immune to wind.

Dendro mostly doesn't exist yet as an element, barring fire causing burning against dendro slimes. If they continue with the logical interactions, I could see hydro being useless against dendro (why would you attack a plant with water?) and cryo and electro being ok against it but not as good as pyro.

So realistically, you would want your primary DPS to be either pyro, cryo or physical with either electro or cryo as an element, otherwise you are going to run into a decent number of enemies that your attacks just aren't great against. Water especially is super weak unless you are facing fire based enemies.

The main offensive use for Geo is replicated by simply having a claymore user on your team, and wind is really useful in general.

Childe was really fun to play in his quest, but I just can't imagine building up a primary DPS that's going to struggle against so many enemy types when I could bring someone like Diluc or Klee who do heavy damage + pyro damage, allowing them to handle almost every enemy type the game throws at you, barring fire immune enemies.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010


Ibram Gaunt posted:

So, Stringless or Rust for Childe?

Rust does almost as much damage as the 5* for him

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!


Has anyone else noticed that you get slightly different rewards for using original resin compared to condensed resin?

At least in the weapon materials domain, I didn't get a purple drop both times I used condensed resin, and I'm doing the AR40 domain so it should be guaranteed.

Xun
Apr 25, 2010



gandlethorpe posted:

OP doesn't mention that the game actually has a pretty charming story, as well as top notch worldbuilding and VA.

Paimon is best emergency food character

ah gently caress it, added!

Sirbloody
Aug 21, 2005

Don't fuck with the Rabbi!

At AR28 what should I be burning my resin on? Last few days I been doing exp books for the Childe banner but I figured I should be doing something more worthwhile now.

YES bread
Jun 16, 2006


inthesto posted:

Has anyone else noticed that you get slightly different rewards for using original resin compared to condensed resin?

At least in the weapon materials domain, I didn't get a purple drop both times I used condensed resin, and I'm doing the AR40 domain so it should be guaranteed.

purple mat drops are not guaranteed at AR40

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Cattail Prophet
Apr 12, 2014



inthesto posted:

Has anyone else noticed that you get slightly different rewards for using original resin compared to condensed resin?

At least in the weapon materials domain, I didn't get a purple drop both times I used condensed resin, and I'm doing the AR40 domain so it should be guaranteed.

I've definitely had runs of the AR40 weapon domains that didn't drop any purples using normal resin.

Distributions I remember seeing:

4 green, 2 blue (or was it 2 green, 4 blue?)
3 green, 3 blue
2 green, 2 blue, 1 purple
2 green, 1 blue, 2 purple
1 green, 1 blue, 1 purple, 1 gold (only seen this once, and it was the very first AR40 run I did lol)

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