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dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012



Sucrose is the best anemo, at least until we get Sayu

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Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.


Sucrose is kind of a budget Venti, but since Venti is so amazing that averages out to "actually really good."

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012


Yeah I'll take "budget Venti" any day, assuming she'll actually show up

Detheros
Apr 11, 2010

Great!




kater posted:

Sucrose like all anemo characters is not good.

Even if this was true, she's adorable so who cares.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

Yogg-Saron fan #1


If anemo traveler was the only anemo character they'd be competitive. It's hard to articulate how broken 4 piece Venerer is, this one element gets to use an artifact set that's just so much better than the others.

Reiterpallasch
Nov 3, 2010



Fun Shoe

sucrose pretty handily outclasses venti in single-target damage contribution or against mobs that can't be sucked up with venti's burst, it's just that venti is so good at crowd control and you spend so much of the game herding crowds and he's still really good at single-target.

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

not all who wander are lost


With the gear I have for Sucrose I can throw her burst and usually get three skills out while a bunch of mobs are being juggled and hit with whatever element I threw on them with a wall of numbers and the end result is almost invariably that she has her burst back up and everything's dead. She's absolutely nuts and shouldn't be overlooked.

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012



not like most characters can meaningfully interact with Venti's burst, you may as well get familiar with Sucrose because she has zero of those issues.

kater
Nov 16, 2010



actually nm sucrose cool

kater fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Jun 9, 2021

Selane
May 19, 2006



Stare-Out posted:

With the gear I have for Sucrose I can throw her burst and usually get three skills out while a bunch of mobs are being juggled and hit with whatever element I threw on them with a wall of numbers and the end result is almost invariably that she has her burst back up and everything's dead. She's absolutely nuts and shouldn't be overlooked.

Yeah this video covers it pretty well. And this is from before the EM buff.

YoshiOfYellow
Aug 21, 2015

Voted #1 Babysitter in Mushroom Kingdom


Speaking of which, here's a fun video of that Sucrose DPS comp after the changes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc4WuLgE8qk

Spoilers: It's Good.

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

Huh? What?



i like xiao but didnt look at any of the buffs so im just assuming he's unchanged

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!


Okay I know I have over a month to do it, but because Genshin content producers are loving insane, is there already a video with the locations of all the conches yet?

I just don't have to to comb through the islands and track them down myself.

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

Huh? What?



inthesto posted:

Okay I know I have over a month to do it, but because Genshin content producers are loving insane, is there already a video with the locations of all the conches yet?

I just don't have to to comb through the islands and track them down myself.

kyo already has a first part uploaded so while its not the entire list its probably a good starting point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubipakVhpfc

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005



Fun Shoe

It also stands that it's really easy to get the +3 to her skill and burst in her constellations compared to getting the same for Venti 5 star. I mean it's just really easy. Sooooooooo easy. Can you even believe some people don't have her? God, what lifeless chumps.

Bloody Emissary
Mar 30, 2014

Powawa~n


inthesto posted:

Okay I know I have over a month to do it, but because Genshin content producers are loving insane, is there already a video with the locations of all the conches yet?

I just don't have to to comb through the islands and track them down myself.

I wouldn't worry about it. There's only five so far, and the minimap displays a little icon over their location when you're nearby. You're unlikely to miss any of them so long as you set foot on each of the little islands.

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003



Lmao can you imagine if this game had used Breath of the Wild's weapon degradation system as well as its general elemental reaction and exploration mechanics? The salt would be loving unreal.

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.

SlimGoodbody posted:

Lmao can you imagine if this game had used Breath of the Wild's weapon degradation system as well as its general elemental reaction and exploration mechanics? The salt would be loving unreal.

gacha players are brokebrained but nobody would pay real money for gacha weapons that degrade

i hope

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008



I've been dropping Sucrose for Xiangling on Floor 12 in this past Abyss version since her damage wasn't cutting it. Just tried it again and I was able to 3* clear 12-1 and 12-2 way more easily than when I did it Xiangling. My buffs are even dogshit (weakpoint and +20% ATK). I should be able to do 12-3 with at least one good buff.

Swirl buff must be doing its job.

Pro-tip: freeze is good vs lectors because it shuts them the gently caress up

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

not all who wander are lost


Soothing Vapors posted:

gacha players are brokebrained but nobody would pay real money for gacha weapons that degrade

i hope

Waifus that degrade. We'll be rich!

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012


I have absolutely no idea but Paimon's kinda growing on me as a character. I no longer hate when she speaks.

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008



The writing for Paimon is self-aware enough to perfectly balance out the overt cutesiness. I think most people who are initially turned off by "stereotypical cute mascot #n" quickly come around after a few early quests.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

Yogg-Saron fan #1


You don't mind her once you have a few weeks between seeing her. The initial twenty hour binge of the story content has an admittedly high paimon talking to gameplay ratio.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013


Pre-farming arts for Kaz, I've got the domain down to an art:



Could still be faster if Mona had a proper DPS set/I hadn't swiped all Venti's good arts for Xiao/Zhongli was built for burst damage and not Crescent Pike.

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003



yeah i like paimon now because they keep letting me tell her she's a greedy idiot that i keep around to eat, it is the same relationship i have with all of my dearest friends irl so they clearly knew what they were doing

CJ
Jul 2, 2007
I HAVE SHIT TASTE AND CANNOT BE TRUSTED

Thank god they made Venti viable at last.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75gBLFsdPKw

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008



Mmm numbers
https://i.imgur.com/6zwIgyD.mp4

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012



eula quest continues to cause issues as apparently i'm not allowed to enter my teapot due to it being active/in a certain stage? mihoyo please

e: well finishing the current step of the quest fixed it, but no idea why that would have bearing on the teapot offhand

dogsicle fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jun 9, 2021

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003




wait, do shields literally just block all damage and let you facetank poo poo?

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!


Diona and zhong let's you ignore mechanics, yes.

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008



I mean, that encounter specifically asks you to use a shield to counter its biggest attack, but yeah shields let you facetank most things in the game.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012


Yeah shields own

If/when Zhongli is on a banner again I am probably going to spend money to get him, I won't be able to resist. Right now my only shielder is Noelle and even she helps a lot with survivability.

Hazdoc
Nov 8, 2012

Muscovy Ducks are a large tropical breed, famous for their lean and extremely flavorful meat.

Hazduck!

~SMcD

crystallize shields just got buffed by a lot, so they're pretty viable too.

ButterSkeleton
Jan 19, 2020

"Cis white guys shouldn't educate themselves on epilepsy" is a unique thesis statement, I'll give you that.

Diona is a decent shielder too.

frajaq
Jan 30, 2009

#acolyte GM of 2014




YoshiOfYellow posted:

Speaking of which, here's a fun video of that Sucrose DPS comp after the changes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc4WuLgE8qk

Spoilers: It's Good.

I have both Venti AND a C6 Sucrose by a twist of fate, not even targeting her honestly, so I'm at a loss what to do, maybe just farm two VV sets lol? This video makes me want to take full advantage of her kit

Lobsterpillar
Feb 4, 2014


SlimGoodbody posted:

I noticed a puzzle chest with submerged ice and fire elemental pillars near one of the beacon islands, so I think we'll probably be either lowering water levels or raising up some land masses.

I saw that one, managed it by using amber to drop baron bunny on it, got the ice one by dropping rosarias burst. Used kaeya to build a little ice bridge out to it.

Someone said in relation to the hide and seek event that this them testing the matchmaking system. I think this event is the same: testing the vehicle system.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

Yogg-Saron fan #1


Hide and seek was like... the fifth event that's used matchmaking, on top of co-op that's been using matchmaking since day 1.

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008



It was the first somewhat-PvP content in the game though

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003



Lobsterpillar posted:

I saw that one, managed it by using amber to drop baron bunny on it, got the ice one by dropping rosarias burst. Used kaeya to build a little ice bridge out to it.

Thanks, I'll try this with Amber, Kaeya, and maybe Eula if her burst is is spherical enough!

quote:

Someone said in relation to the hide and seek event that this them testing the matchmaking system. I think this event is the same: testing the vehicle system.

The hide n seek was cute and fun so that was a good idea on their part, but oh lordy yes please give me a way to get around quickly without just teleporting to the highest spot in the area and gliding down to where I wanna be. Gimme a little carriage I can upgrade to have weapons and a boat mode and an airship mode, absolutely, hell yes

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xedo
Nov 7, 2011

It's the eye of the tigrex
It's the thrill of the fight



SlimGoodbody posted:

wait, do shields literally just block all damage and let you facetank poo poo?

I'll throw up a Zhongli shield and then my archers can just do charged shots to enemy archer faces all day long, because none of the hits she takes will stagger her out of aimed shot mode while shielded.

Also, there's an achievement for beating Oceanid without ever taking damage from the exploding water spheres. That's probably really hard to do as intended, but when the shields just block the damage, you get the cheevo by accident.

So really shields go beyond just blocking damage and provide bonus goodies on top of that because a lot of game mechanics are predicated on the idea that you'll take damage before they trigger. It's actually ridiculous.

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