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2018 Thread here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3861071 2019 Thread here; https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3892360 ^^These are getting fun to look through. Please ignore the <EDITED> next to my Luka predictions Year 3 of keeping track of draft predictions, and frankly I am surprised this big dumb forum is still going. This is a chance to put your predictions in stone, a feat of bravery in the 21st century. We know where drafted players were picked, we have ideas on what lineups might sort of look like, and we all have lots of faith in Anthony Edwards as a sterling example of a #1 overall. The idea is to post your opinions, no matter how ill-informed, on how the recently drafted class will pan out with the information we have today. Which 8 players will have the best career (regardless of draft position)(note if you are ordering or not, and its more fun if you do) Which 3 guys taken in the lottery (top 14) will bust? Which 3 players outside the lottery (top 14) will have the best career? ROY Prediction (feel free to put up to your top 3 in order)? Who will win the MCW award for best rookie numbers despite being bad?
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Which 8 players will have the best career (regardless of draft position)(note if you are ordering or not, and its more fun if you do) Killian Hayes LaMelo Ball Onyeka Okongwu Devin Vassell Kira Lewis Cole Anthony Tyrese Maxey Desmond Bane Which 3 guys taken in the lottery (top 14) will bust? Jalen Smith Deni Avdija Anthony Edwards (don't actually feel good about this one but it's a weird fit and betting against the Wolves usually works) Which 3 players outside the lottery (top 14) will have the best career? Cole Anthony Tyrese Maxey Desmond Bane (HM: Malichi Flynn, Tyrell Terry, Poku, and Isaiah Joe) ROY Prediction (feel free to put up to your top 3 in order)? LaMelo Ball Devin Vassell Obi Toppin Who will win the MCW award for best rookie numbers despite being bad? Obi Toppin MourningView fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Nov 19, 2020 |
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Nov 19, 2020 17:01
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everything’s in order i’m not afraid Which 8 players will have the best career (regardless of draft position)(note if you are ordering or not, and its more fun if you do) lamelo ball poku killian hayes onyeka okongwu devin vassell tyrell terry isaiah joe rj hampton Which 3 guys taken in the lottery (top 14) will bust? deni wiseman haliburton Which 3 players outside the lottery (top 14) will have the best career? poku tyrell terry isaiah joe ROY Prediction (feel free to put up to your top 3 in order)? lamelo ball devin vassell killian hayes Who will win the MCW award for best rookie numbers despite being bad? james wiseman, he’s got fuckin antawn jamison vibes
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Nov 19, 2020 17:50
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Overall I feel a lot less good about projections this year than usual. Which 8 players will have the best career (regardless of draft position) Tiering: LeMelo Ball Okongwu (might take him a bit, he might be one of those guys who gets overrated for a little while before coming into his own) Killian Hayes Vassell Haliburton Bolmaro (eventually) Anthony Edwards (Big bust potential, but I am being POSITIVE!) Wiseman (he'll probably get unfair expectations going #2 but I think he'll be decent). Which 3 guys taken in the lottery (top 14) will bust? Patrick Williams Aaron Nesmith Deni Avdija (I think he'll be ok, but maybe have a middling career and leave the NBA early for Euroleague or something) he wasn't a lottery pick, but putting Poku here as an honorable mention. He was a very good pick for where he got him, but he's either going to be really, really good or bust, with strong odds on the latter. Hope I am wrong. Which 3 players outside the lottery (top 14) will have the best career? Balmaro Bane Cole Anthony (if he can stay healthy) ROY Prediction (feel free to put up to your top 3 in order)? This is going to be a weird year. I think a lot of teams will load manage/shelve rookies. LaMelo Ball Hayes Haliburton Who will win the MCW award for best rookie numbers despite being bad? Obi Toppin. This becoming the "Who did the Knicks draft" question.
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Nov 19, 2020 18:09
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everything is ordered Which 8 players will have the best career (regardless of draft position)(note if you are ordering or not, and its more fun if you do) James Wiseman Onyeka Okongwu Tyrese Haliburton Tyrese Maxey Precious Achiuwa Obi Toppin Josh Green Desmond Bane Which 3 guys taken in the lottery (top 14) will bust? Killian Hayes Jalen Smith Aaron Nesmith Which 3 players outside the lottery (top 14) will have the best career? Precious Achiuwa Tyrese Maxey Cole Anthony ROY Prediction (feel free to put up to your top 3 in order)? Onyeka Okongwu Grant Riller Isaac Okoro Who will win the MCW award for best rookie numbers despite being bad? Lamelo/Cole Anthony (tie)
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Nov 19, 2020 18:31
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i don't think vassell has a chance to win rookie of the year playing for the spurs but hey, i'm happy to be wrong! edit: i don't know enough to make all those predictions
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Nov 19, 2020 18:35
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Some anti-twitter hot takes here, I love it. RaySmuckles posted:i don't think vassell has a chance to win rookie of the year playing for the spurs Make the predictions anyway, throw darts at a board. I think you're right about Vassell, I think he'll be good but probably be more of a low-scoring complementary piece at first. ROY track PPG really, really closely. (which doesn't track with my melo pick.....)
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Nov 19, 2020 18:39
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I am generally of the opinion that Vassell has a lot more offensive upside than he gets credit for and I don't expect it to be a particularly great year for rookies generally. Analytics man going all in on centers smh
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Nov 19, 2020 18:41
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Lockback posted:Some anti-twitter hot takes here, I love it. I really wasn't paying attention to anyone outside my group re draft stuff, what did i go against the grain on?
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Nov 19, 2020 18:42
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dokmo posted:I really wasn't paying attention to anyone outside my group re draft stuff, what did i go against the grain on? Wiseman, Precious, and Obi on the positive side, Hayes on the negative
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Nov 19, 2020 18:44
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I'm gonna look like a genius whenever someone figures out how to use Precious.
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Nov 19, 2020 18:47
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dokmo posted:I really wasn't paying attention to anyone outside my group re draft stuff, what did i go against the grain on? It's not super out there, it just matches more "NBA" thought than the twitter/podcast crew you tend to see here.
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Nov 19, 2020 18:47
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I know this has been litigated endlessly by people much more informed and smarter than me in the draft thread, but I’m way out on LaMelo, he’s going to bust because of his shooting. His form makes me want to vomit, and contrary to dumb podcaster belief, it’s actually a bad thing to have no hesitation if you don’t know how to shoot. I don’t know enough to answer the other questions except to agree with the previous post about obi toppin winning the annual knicks award.
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Nov 19, 2020 19:16
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dokmo posted:I'm gonna look like a genius whenever someone figures out how to use Precious. He went to one of the few places where I think he will work out fine but I still think he's probably just a backup center and eh. If you could have guranteed me he'd wind up with the Heat or Raptors I probably would have had him in the late first instead of the early second though.
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Nov 19, 2020 19:29
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I am excited that people think LaMelo will be good. The Hornets draft picks have been bad so long. The talking heads all think LaMelo can't shoot for poo poo, which seems important?
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Nov 19, 2020 20:42
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His form is goofy but I don't think it's totally unworkable, he has very good touch. The biggest issue with his shooting has been shot selection, which can get ironed out. For better or worse he's always been allowed to try whatever he wanted which leads to one dumb deep pull up attempts. As long as he can get up into the low 30% range he should be fine, being willing to pull up from anywhere means teams will guard him even if he's not shooting a super high percentage which opens other things up. I would be more worried about his defense than his shooting
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Nov 19, 2020 20:53
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i think okongwu could be a valuable contributor off the bat, but i also know that the hawks have clint capela whom they gave up a decent amount for so unless they plan on moving him i feel like okongwu won’t really get a chance his rookie year
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Nov 19, 2020 21:14
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I know so little about this class Which 8 players will have the best career (regardless of draft position)(note if you are ordering or not, and its more fun if you do) Onyeka Okongwu Josh Green Reggie Perry Desmond Bane Killian Hayes Lamelo Ball Tyler Maxey Cassius Winston Which 3 guys taken in the lottery (top 14) will bust? James Wiseman I think that's it. Which 3 players outside the lottery (top 14) will have the best career? Maxey Bane Green ROY Prediction (feel free to put up to your top 3 in order)? LaMelo Ball Who will win the MCW award for best rookie numbers despite being bad? LaMelo Ball (he'll get better)
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Nov 19, 2020 21:36
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Which 8 players will have the best career (regardless of draft position)(note if you are ordering or not, and its more fun if you do) ordered: Anthony Edwards Okongwu Desmond Bane Tyrese Maxey Tyrese Halliburton Kira Lewis Jr Leandro BOlmaro Xavier Tillman Which 3 guys taken in the lottery (top 14) will bust? James Wiseman Patrick Williams Isaac Okoro Which 3 players outside the lottery (top 14) will have the best career? Bane Maxey Bolmaro ROY Prediction (feel free to put up to your top 3 in order)? Lamelo ball Anthony Edwards Obi Toppin Who will win the MCW award for best rookie numbers despite being bad? Lamelo
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Nov 19, 2020 23:58
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underrated note about Anthony Edwards: We celebrate kiwi for living life in full casual with flip flops and only wearing a suit to his draft. The Ant man didn't even bother with that plus he and Ricky could be the best smiley duo in the league
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Nov 20, 2020 01:15
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Which 8 players will have the best career (regardless of draft position)(note if you are ordering or not, and its more fun if you do) Killian Hayes LaMelo Ball Onyeka Okongwu Devin Vassell Kira Lewis Xavier Tillman Tyrese Haliburton Cole Anthony Which 3 guys taken in the lottery (top 14) will bust? Edwards Smith Avdija Which 3 players outside the lottery (top 14) will have the best career? Anthony Tillman Poku (I gotta believe now) ROY Prediction (feel free to put up to your top 3 in order)? Terry (if he gets 32 min a night couldbreak rookie 3pt record) / Toppin / Ball Who will win the MCW award for best rookie numbers despite being bad? Toppin ButtWolf fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Nov 21, 2020 |
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Nov 20, 2020 01:20
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Which 8 players will have the best career (regardless of draft position)(note if you are ordering or not, and its more fun if you do) Not in order Killian Hayes Desmond Bane Devin Vassell Tyrese Maxey Onyeka Okongwu James Wiseman Zeke Nnaji Paul Reed Which 3 guys taken in the lottery (top 14) will bust? Deni Avdija Jalen Smith Isaac Okoro Which 3 players outside the lottery (top 14) will have the best career? Desmond Bane Tyrese Maxey Zeke Nnaji (Why Zeke? I don't actually watch College ball at all. So I am not married to this idea, but everything I have heard about this kid makes him sound pretty damned smart) ROY Prediction (feel free to put up to your top 3 in order)? James Wiseman Obi Toppin Lamelo Ball Who will win the MCW award for best rookie numbers despite being bad? Obi Toppin, but we'll all forgive him because he'll be entertaining.
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Nov 20, 2020 03:07
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Which 8 players will have the best career (regardless of draft position)(note if you are ordering or not, and its more fun if you do) not ordering Killian hayes Lamelo ball Xavier tillman Poku Desmond bane Tyrell terry Tyrese maxey Onyeka okungwu Isaac okoro Which 3 guys taken in the lottery (top 14) will bust? Deni avdija Tyrese haliburton Aaron nesmith Which 3 players outside the lottery (top 14) will have the best career? Poku Bane Tillman ROY Prediction (feel free to put up to your top 3 in order)? Obi Lamelo Killian Who will win the MCW award for best rookie numbers despite being bad? (kobe voice) Obi
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Nov 20, 2020 04:32
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I don't like anyone in this draft especially, except Tillman, Williams, and Okongwu. I think the only chance for a non 20s or 2nd round best player from the draft is wiseman changing his entire playing style and becoming the fantasy big that some people are talking about. I can't project that because I haven't watched him work out. Which 8 players will have the best career (regardless of draft position)(note if you are ordering or not, and its more fun if you do) Okwongu Tillman Pat Williams Immanuel Quickley fill in anyone below this okoro/winston/Josh Green/Bey Which 3 guys taken in the lottery (top 14) will bust? Edwards haliburton Killian Hayes Which 3 players outside the lottery (top 14) will have the best career? Immanuel Quickley tyrell terry isaiah joe ROY Prediction (feel free to put up to your top 3 in order)? lamelo ball Desmond Bane James Wiseman Who will win the MCW award for best rookie numbers despite being bad? Probably Wiseman Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Nov 20, 2020 |
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Nov 20, 2020 04:47
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Which 8 players will have the best career (regardless of draft position)(note if you are ordering or not, and its more fun if you do) Poku Vassel Okongwu Pat Williams Haliburton Kira Hayes Rj Hampton Which 3 guys taken in the lottery (top 14) will bust? Edwards Wiseman Ball Which 3 players outside the lottery (top 14) will have the best career? Poku Hampton Flynn ROY Prediction (feel free to put up to your top 3 in order)? Ball Deni Haliburton Who will win the MCW award for best rookie numbers despite being bad? Ball
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Nov 20, 2020 05:05
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Which 8 players will have the best career (regardless of draft position)(note if you are ordering or not, and its more fun if you do) 1. James Wiseman 2. Deni Avdija 3. Onyeka Okongwu 4. LaMelo Ball 5. Anthony Edwards 6. Tyrese Haliburton 7. Obi Toppin 8. Devin Vassell Which 3 guys taken in the lottery (top 14) will bust? Killian Hayes Patrick Williams Jalen Smith Which 3 players outside the lottery (top 14) will have the best career? Saddiq Bey Tyrese Maxey Isaiah Stewart ROY Prediction (feel free to put up to your top 3 in order)? 1. LaMelo Ball 2. Obi Toppin 3. Killian Hayes Who will win the MCW award for best rookie numbers despite being bad? Killian Hayes
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Nov 20, 2020 10:18
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Which 8 players will have the best career (regardless of draft position)(note if you are ordering or not, and its more fun if you do) 1. Isaac Okoro 2. Immanuel Quickley 3. James Wiseman 4. Devin Vassell 5. Cole Anthony 6. Deni Avdija 7. Tyrese Maxey 8. Zeke Nnaji Which 3 guys taken in the lottery (top 14) will bust? Kira Lewis Jr. Tyrese Haliburton Onyeka Okongwu Which 3 players outside the lottery (top 14) will have the best career? Immanuel Quickley Cole Anthony Zeke Nnaji ROY Prediction (feel free to put up to your top 3 in order)? LaMelo Ball James Wiseman Anthony Edwards Who will win the MCW award for best rookie numbers despite being bad? LaMelo Ball
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Nov 20, 2020 10:51
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Which 8 players will have the best career (regardless of draft position)(note if you are ordering or not, and its more fun if you do) Ball Toppin Okoro Vassell Maxey Bane Okongwu Joe Which 3 guys taken in the lottery (top 14) will bust? Avdija Hayes Smith Which 3 players outside the lottery (top 14) will have the best career? Achiuwa Bane Poku ROY Prediction (feel free to put up to your top 3 in order)? Ball Okoro Vassell Who will win the MCW award for best rookie numbers despite being bad? Toppin (less that he's bad, and more that the Knicks are bad) Exclusive Grizzlies prediction Desmond Bane will usurp Dillon Brooks by the all star break. There's a new DB in town.
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Nov 20, 2020 17:40
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dokmo posted:Which 8 players will have the best career (regardless of draft position)(note if you are ordering or not, and its more fun if you do) not great!
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Jun 24, 2021 14:08
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Dejan Bimble posted:I don't like anyone in this draft especially, except Tillman, Williams, and Okongwu. I think the only chance for a non 20s or 2nd round best player from the draft is wiseman changing his entire playing style and becoming the fantasy big that some people are talking about. I can't project that because I haven't watched him work out. Well at least being high on Quickley and Tillman was right. Glad I squoze in Bey and ROY for Lamelo too
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Jun 24, 2021 14:55
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My mostly guesses this year went well.
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Jun 25, 2021 23:08
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Declan MacManus posted:i think okongwu could be a valuable contributor off the bat, but i also know that the hawks have clint capela whom they gave up a decent amount for so unless they plan on moving him i feel like okongwu won’t really get a chance his rookie year well, this prediction was good, and so was lamelo roty please ignore all my other predictions
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I didn't do the thread but i know i picked okongwu for the highest rookie per and/or ws/48 in the zogo poll on the logic that it's usually a big man who can be super efficient on low usage and low minutes but his minutes were uh...less than low
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DeimosRising posted:I didn't do the thread but i know i picked okongwu for the highest rookie per and/or ws/48 in the zogo poll on the logic that it's usually a big man who can be super efficient on low usage and low minutes but his minutes were uh...less than low He was hurt early and they have too many similar guys but he was good once they started actually playing him. He has looked awesome by rookie big standards in the playoffs, he even managed to not get bulldozed by Embiid relatively well which would have been my big worry about him on defense going into the league just because of the relative lack of size. He's gonna be really good. Other than being way to low on Ant I feel okay about mine. I guess I also let myself get too caught up in Hali not having big star power. I knew he'd been at least pretty good so I should have had him towards the bottom of the best list. I didn't like Obi at all relative to where he was usually mocked but I thought he'd be a good stats/bad team guy and was wrong on both parts lol.
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Yeah typically a long time starter/sixth man is the 4th or 5th best player in a given draft. If you’re sure a guy is going to be like, Courtney Lee or Jae Crowder he’s a top 10 player actually (not to say he should be drafted top 10)
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Jun 26, 2021 00:54
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Jun 26, 2021 01:17
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It's still really early to try to judge the 2020 class
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I think a lot of us were sort of stuck on old paradigms and ghosts of Wiggins on Ant Man. Now a strong athlete who can attack like that doesn't need 3 years to look good. He was always stronger and thicker than Wiggins, who's more of an ambush viper and less of a lion attacking wildebeest. He needs half a season of bumbling around like a blind man before he starts jetpacking over people. Strength with popcorn legs is an incredibly potent combo in spread out contemporary NBA
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Dejan Bimble posted:I think a lot of us were sort of stuck on old paradigms and ghosts of Wiggins on Ant Man. Now a strong athlete who can attack like that doesn't need 3 years to look good. He was always stronger and thicker than Wiggins, who's more of an ambush viper and less of a lion attacking wildebeest. He needs half a season of bumbling around like a blind man before he starts jetpacking over people. Strength with popcorn legs is an incredibly potent combo in spread out contemporary NBA to be fair their rookie seasons still weren't really that different on the whole, though Edwards shot way more threes which is probably good long term https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=edwaran01&p1yrfrom=2021&player_id2=wiggian01&p2yrfrom=2015
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