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Dejan Bimble posted:I'm guessing he just watched OK vs OK State In one of those he scored 40! But I would guess at most he saw the hype for that and then watched the follow up where Cade took like one shot in the first half and didn't have a great line, but even then he was getting to the basket at will down the stretch and was the biggest reason they took the lead for good. More likely he's watched like three youtube clips and Russillo said something dumb one time. He barely watches the NBA anymore he's definitely not watching full college games
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MourningView posted:In one of those he scored 40! But I would guess at most he saw the hype for that and then watched the follow up where Cade took like one shot in the first half and didn't have a great line, but even then he was getting to the basket at will down the stretch and was the biggest reason they took the lead for good. More likely he's watched like three youtube clips and Russillo said something dumb one time. He barely watches the NBA anymore he's definitely not watching full college games Game 2 is what I was thinking, just laying back and setting his teammates up until he had to walk through Not Mo Harkless's brother and a bunch of other big upperclassmen. If you watched the first half without the context of ok state having really bad players you might leave unimpressed. I think a lot of it falls into the trap of holding elite athleticism as the linchpin of top prospecthood. But if you look at the top 15 guys in the NBA, only half of them are galaxy grade run jump guys.
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Mar 3, 2021 21:03
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Let me just look at what draft picks the Celtics have this year. Ahhh, I see.
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https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/1367146540016562177 https://twitter.com/SpartanRyan/status/1367174748246048768 Please go 2 the gleague emoni. You dont have to keep promises to tom izzo, they dont count
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Mar 4, 2021 03:21
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MourningView posted:gently caress yes https://twitter.com/BackAftaThis/status/1367291752953090050
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Mar 4, 2021 03:25
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Spring Break My Heart posted:I was reminded of this today: HE DON'T MISS
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Mar 4, 2021 03:27
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Spring Break My Heart posted:I was reminded of this today: 
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Spring Break My Heart posted:I was reminded of this today: Incredible to be a doubting Thomas on Zion but not bring up any of the actual issues with him (bad landing mechanics, no defensive awareness, can only dribble in a straight line). I guess he sort of mentioned handles but that’s really vague. Anyone who thought Zion would be less than a great offensive player was nuts.
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Mar 4, 2021 17:01
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Algund Eenboom posted:https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/1367146540016562177 Prematurely judging this year's g league prospects makes me think an easy money bucket man looks better against ncaa competition. Of course if his family needs more money than Michigan state is paying, so be it.
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I dunno I have been pretty impressed with the ignite guys this year, especially since the g-league is probably the toughest it's ever been because there are fewer teams and the talent is more concentrated. Jalen Green started slow but otherwise he's looked really good and Bates is a better prospect as a scorer. His defense is gonna look really really bad though. Also Izzo's record with top tier prospects is, uh, mixed. JJJ was ultimately fine but Izzo used him in a really stupid way.
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Mar 4, 2021 18:59
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MourningView posted:I dunno I have been pretty impressed with the ignite guys this year, especially since the g-league is probably the toughest it's ever been because there are fewer teams and the talent is more concentrated. Jalen Green started slow but otherwise he's looked really good and Bates is a better prospect as a scorer. His defense is gonna look really really bad though. Also Izzo's record with top tier prospects is, uh, mixed. JJJ was ultimately fine but Izzo used him in a really stupid way. I appreciate you for serving as the voice of reason to my unplotted idle thoughts and feelings. It's good to be stopped from floating away in a sweet phantasy
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Pre-tournament top 60, I still need to watch more of most guys and obviously not everyone will actually come out so this will change a lot before the draft 1. Cade Cunningham, Oklahoma State 2. Evan Mobley, USC 3. Jalen Suggs, Gonzaga 4. Jalen Green, g-league 5. Jaden Springer, Tennessee 6. Moses Moody, Arkansas 7. Jonathan Kuminga, G-league 8. Ziaire Williams, Stanford 9. Keon Johnson, Tennessee 10. Sharife Cooper, Auburn 11. Franz Wagner, Michigan 12. Jalen Johnson, Duke 13. Corey Kispert, Gonzaga 14. Kai Jones, Texas 15. James Bouknight UConn 16. Benedict Mathurin, Arizona 17. Jared Butler, Baylor 18. Usman Garuba, INTL 19. Daishen Nix, G-league 20. Alperen Sengun, INTL 21. Roko Prkacin INTL 22. Scottie Barnes, Florida State 23. David Johnson, Louisville 24. Deuce McBride, WVU 25. Rokas Jokubaitis, INTL 26. Cam Thomas, LSU 27. Bones Hyland, VCU 28. Kessler Edwards, Pepperdine 29. Josh Giddey, INTL 30. Greg Brown, Texas 31. Terrance Shannon, Texas Tech 32. Josh Christopher, Arizona State 33. Julian Champagnie, St. John's 34. Tre Mann, Florida 35. Isaiah Jackson, Kentucky 36. Day'ron Sharpe, UNC 37. Marcus Bagley, Arizona State 38. Charles Bassey, Western Kentucky 39. BJ Boston, Kentucky 40. Chris Duarte, Oregon 41. Jeremiah Robinson-Earl, Villanova 42. David Duke, Providence 43. Joel Ayayi, Gonzaga 44. Sam Hauser, Virginia 45. Isaiah Livers, Michigan 46. Davion Mitchell, Baylor 47. Scottie Lewis, Florida 48. Derrick Alston Jr., Boise State 49. Justin Champagnie, Pitt 50. Yves Pons, Tennessee 51. Aaron Henry, Michigan State 52. JT Thor, Auburn 53. Ayo Dosunmu, Illinois 54. Jason Preston, Ohio 55. Sandro Mamukelashvili, Seton Hall 56. Trayce Jackson-Davis, Indiana 57. Matt Mitchell, San Diego State 58. Jalen Crutcher, Dayton 59. Ron Harper Jr, Rutgers 60. Santi Aldama, Loyola (MD)
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are there more international prospects in the top 30 this year than previous years? I'm also intrigued by how high or low some of the G-League kids will go
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Carlosologist posted:are there more international prospects in the top 30 this year than previous years? I'm also intrigued by how high or low some of the G-League kids will go I think the international thing is pretty typical, last year was a pretty bad year for it. I definitely should have more in the second round but I just haven't watched a lot of guys. I am probably higher on Jokubaitis than where he'll actually go, I would have taken him first round last year too. For the G-League I think Green and Kuminga will probably both go top 5 unless someone like Moody or one of the Tennessee guys has a crazy tournament and blows up. Nix will definitely get drafted but probably closer to the late first/early second range. I've seen Isaiah Todd on boards some places but he sucks and I don't get it.
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you’re gonna see more international prospects over time; the nba and fiba have done a really good job of spreading the game all over the world especially once the one and done rule is removed; you won’t have situations like enes kanter getting billed out of kentucky
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It sounds like 2022 will be the first draft where high schoolers are eligible. The fated double draft. Get picks or die trying.
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Dejan Bimble posted:It sounds like 2022 will be the first draft where high schoolers are eligible. The fated double draft. Get picks or die trying. This was the original thought but I think they've since said that it won't be that early.
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I think they would have had to vote that in this past offseason for it to be 2022. I assume covid pushed it back.
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https://twitter.com/BrianJDraft/status/1369327679187677194?s=19 The Kuminga flashes are great and he obviously has the physical stuff you want but I think he has more issues with his shot than most people seem to want to acknowledge.
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Jalen Suggs is good. https://twitter.com/espn/status/1369498799673065473?s=20 https://twitter.com/Sam_Vecenie/status/1369498505060839428?s=20
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Dejan Bimble posted:What do you guys think about Quentin Grimes? He was all right until he snapped and started ranting about being BJ Boston and getting away with things and how he can take a dangerous charge because "I'm BJ Boston" and then died.
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I have decided that Evan Mobley is Kenyon Martin with a jumper
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The Glumslinger posted:I have decided that Evan Mobley is Kenyon Martin with a jumper he's way better on offense generally and also, like, five inches taller. He'd go first in a lot of years
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Mar 20, 2021 22:48
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MourningView posted:he's way better on offense generally and also, like, five inches taller. He'd go first in a lot of years Huh, forgot Martin was that short
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The Glumslinger posted:Huh, forgot Martin was that short Dude played PF and even some center all on toughness.
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He was also one of the early 00s power forwards who put up decent point totals because he got fed a lot of post touches before Mike D'antoni taught everyone what a basketball offense is supposed to look like yet, and then you look back and he actually kinda sucked on offense. Really good defender though.
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Yeah he was brutal and it is one of the biggest black marks on the Eastern Conference that they let a team with him as lead scorer make the finals.
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If the lottery keeps the draft order as is what would be the best case for Suggs? Like what team would probably let him shine the most?
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Metapod posted:If the lottery keeps the draft order as is what would be the best case for Suggs? Like what team would probably let him shine the most? He'd be really good with Shai or in Toronto with FVV but don't know if either of those two will get high enough to get him. Needs to be somewhere with another good lead guard to really get the most out of him I think.
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I do think he's going to be at least pretty good wherever he winds up, he's a good shooter, plays D, and is a really smart passer. But if he has a weakness it's that he can't really create an easy look for himself in the half court, so playing with another guard who can get in the paint would probably be the ideal. Maybe it's better with NBA space but kinda hard to have more space than Gonzaga lol
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MourningView posted:I do think he's going to be at least pretty good wherever he winds up, he's a good shooter, plays D, and is a really smart passer. But if he has a weakness it's that he can't really create an easy look for himself in the half court, so playing with another guard who can get in the paint would probably be the ideal. Maybe it's better with NBA space but kinda hard to have more space than Gonzaga lol Sounds like you're saying he should come home
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I'm just starting to catch up on suggs video. would it be crazy to say his ideal scenario is ending up as the guard version of Andre iguodala?
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Dejan Bimble posted:I'm just starting to catch up on suggs video. would it be crazy to say his ideal scenario is ending up as the guard version of Andre iguodala? He kind of reminds me more of a Chauncey Billups. Kind of a do everything point guard but nothing elite.
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Kirios posted:He kind of reminds me more of a Chauncey Billups. Kind of a do everything point guard but nothing elite. I don't have a Chauncey player archetype in my head, to me he's just the most clutch guy (other than Joe Johnson) who made everyone better no matter what. I'll have to think about it
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Dejan Bimble posted:I'm just starting to catch up on suggs video. would it be crazy to say his ideal scenario is ending up as the guard version of Andre iguodala? He's very good at the one thing Iggy was notably missing from his game (shooting) so I don't think this really works.
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Kirios posted:He kind of reminds me more of a Chauncey Billups. Kind of a do everything point guard but nothing elite. please do not disrespect mister big shot
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MourningView posted:He's very good at the one thing Iggy was notably missing from his game (shooting) so I don't think this really works. Fair enough. I should have just said right place/right time/ make it look easy in a complimentary but not minimal role guy
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Kirios posted:He kind of reminds me more of a Chauncey Billups. Kind of a do everything point guard but nothing elite. If you look at career Win Shares, (and VORP) Billups and Shawn Marion are right after a long, unbroken string of Hall of Famers, and directly above a second, long, unbroken string of hall of famers.
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