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Bula Vinaka posted:Above a bench outside the Marine Gate: If anyone sits here, let him read this first of all: if anyone wants a screw, he should look for Attice; she costs 4 sestertii. drat, these guys must have hosed the whole town. Or maybe Attice is just really cheap.
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Nov 22, 2020 18:30
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Universe Master posted:drat, these guys must have hosed the whole town. Or maybe Attice is just really cheap. a sestertii is the equivalent of $0.25
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Nov 22, 2020 18:34
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*wailing on a lyre* Attice I've got your number / I need to make you mine
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Nov 22, 2020 19:04
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They have found roman brothels and knew what they were because they had a nice kitchen and bar downstairs, and tiny rooms upstairs only good for fuckin in (and they had price lists still written on the walls like a drat wine list lmao)
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Nov 22, 2020 19:09
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Big Beef City posted:They have found roman brothels and knew what they were because they had a nice kitchen and bar downstairs, and tiny rooms upstairs only good for fuckin in (and they had price lists still written on the walls like a drat wine list lmao) they also had special commemorative coins for each of the sex acts, like chuck-e-cheese of blowjobs 
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Nov 22, 2020 19:40
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Hey Gaius, ya wanna trade that double fallatio for three foot rubs? -okay but after we should get to trading coins.
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Nov 22, 2020 19:57
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You really should get the Apius. *Slave named Apius appears carrying wax writing tablet with special deals and discounts on it*
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Nov 22, 2020 20:03
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Rutibex posted:they also had special commemorative coins for each of the sex acts, like chuck-e-cheese of blowjobs and all we get is fuckin states and national parks and bullshit like that
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Nov 22, 2020 20:05
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Rutibex posted:they also had special commemorative coins for each of the sex acts, like chuck-e-cheese of blowjobs I keep 'The poems of Catullus' as a coffee table book. Looking at it right now. Dirty bastard.
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Nov 22, 2020 20:10
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I'm the servant, triumphantly refusing to suck off Master in the usual manner because what's he gonna do about it, hahaha.
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Nov 22, 2020 20:11
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*sees approaching ash and fire* How about you suck MY dick, hoss. *Pulls up tunic while flipping them off*
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Nov 22, 2020 20:13
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Rutibex posted:a sestertii is the equivalent of $0.25 4 sestertii was the equivalent of 1 denarius it's a weird inscription or a weird translation  In fact, looking up the Latin translation available on the general web, it's highly suspect "SI QUIS SEDET HIC, LEGAT HOC PRIMUM OMNIUM: SI QUIS VELIT COCHLEA, DEBET EXPECTAMUS, ATTICE: ILLA SUMPTUUM, IV SESTERTIUM." People called Romanes they go the house? Cochlea??? Well that could mean "a screw", or more likely a snail, or sea shell, or spiral but that seems weirdly literal for what the translation is going for, implying "to screw" as in "to gently caress". "Sestertium" is also singular, it should be plural Well another site said it could be found as inscription 1751 in CIL volume 4. So I dredged up that old thing and there we find "SI QUIS HIC SEDERIT LEGAT HOC ANTE OMNIA. SI QUI FUTUERE VOLET ATTICEN QUAERAT A(ssibus) XVI" Well well, if it isn't our old friend "futuere", that is "to gently caress" (the inscription is actually misspelled as "futuēre" lmao what a dumbass). So then, "if anyone wants to gently caress, Attice asks for 16 asses". An "as" was a coin even more worthless than a sestertius. Two and a half asses made one sestertius. We can thus safely conclude that Attice went for at least 6 sestertii. Thank you for reading.
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Nov 22, 2020 20:45
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What would the actual value be from when the inscription was dated from? Not in coinage, but in practical value? Not trying to sound preachy but people often forget that 'Rome' as an institution lasted for loving EVER and their coinage changed value a lot over time and between periods because they had only a very rudimentary understanding on things like 'inflation' and 'why can't I just flood the markets with tons of new coins with this silver we plundered' and 'forced price fixing actually will make the black markets worse and not better'. They were remarkably bad at this given their trade capability and other socio economic abilities.
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Nov 22, 2020 21:15
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money's a fundamentally fake concept. being bad at monetary policy means that you're bad at manipulating public consensus to believe that your trash icons carry the value you want and expect them to carry
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Nov 22, 2020 21:31
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You can't really compare the value to money "today" due to different economic systems and vastly different production methods, but other finds at Pompeii lists a new tunic as costing 15 sestertii, a donkey 500, a slave at an auction 6252, and a loaf of bread half a sestertius
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Nov 22, 2020 21:36
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The Voice of Labor posted:money's a fundamentally fake concept. being bad at monetary policy means that you're bad at manipulating public consensus to believe that your trash icons carry the value you want and expect them to carry Please keep ranting about a monetary system that didn't operate the same way ours do or you think it did. I'm on tenterhooks for more of this hot take.
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Nov 22, 2020 21:42
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Next up: One goons wild theory on why the romans were total idiots when it came to the blockchain that you can't afford to miss!!
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Nov 22, 2020 21:45
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They were all about putting people in chains and blocking their movement.
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Nov 22, 2020 21:59
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Actually there was a monetary reform in 23 BC that set the value of an as to 1/16th of a denarius, so 16 asses might have been 4 sestertii . Either way that's not what the inscription says, weird to translate it from one currently meaningless denomination to another.
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Nov 22, 2020 22:17
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we should ask the guy who wrote it
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Nov 22, 2020 22:22
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Mooey Cow posted:You can't really compare the value to money "today" due to different economic systems and vastly different production methods, but other finds at Pompeii lists a new tunic as costing 15 sestertii, a donkey 500, a slave at an auction 6252, and a loaf of bread half a sestertius otoh if you wanted pork on the table it was 4+ sestertii a dead dude's bar tab in herculaneum: quote:Some nuts …? coins; drinks: 14 coins; lard: 2 coins; bread: 3 coins; three meat cutlets: 12 coins; four sausages: 8 coins. Total: 51 coins So at least one guy looked up at the incoming wall of broiling hot ash and was like "well at least I don't have to pay for last nundinae's party at the thermae!"
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Loden Taylor posted:*wailing on a lyre* Attice I've got your number / I need to make you mine VIII VI VII - V III nulla IX
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Nov 22, 2020 23:49
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Big Beef City posted:Please keep ranting about a monetary system that didn't operate the same way ours do or you think it did. I'm on tenterhooks for more of this hot take. so they didn't use arbitrarily determined tokens to represent an arbitrary amount of exchange value? 'cause that's a universal characteristic of monetary systems
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Nov 23, 2020 00:09
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they had money with suck and gently caress on it. what the hell more do you want from a monetary systems for cryin out loud?
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Nov 23, 2020 00:20
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dee eight posted:they had money with suck and gently caress on it. what the hell more do you want from a monetary systems for cryin out loud? I think that was more for people who couldn't read/read Latin (or Greek or whatever they were using) The coins would have been universally understood. Just pick out the ones you want.
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Nov 23, 2020 00:26
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i wish the US $2 bill had betsy ross tiddies on it
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Nov 23, 2020 00:29
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American time travellers getting railed by old balding Benjamin Franklin look a-likes because they refuse to use the coins.
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Nov 23, 2020 00:41
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The Voice of Labor posted:so they didn't use arbitrarily determined tokens to represent an arbitrary amount of exchange value? Are you kidding me? Do you think the romans used coinage like we use paper money?
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Nov 23, 2020 00:58
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I kinda want to buy a roman gently caress coin E: found one that sold for $35,000. Maybe in my next life I will be rich enough to afford one but alas
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Nov 23, 2020 01:46
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Big Beef City posted:Are you kidding me? to exchange for goods and services?
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Nov 23, 2020 01:52
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HungryMedusa posted:I kinda want to buy a roman gently caress coin i hope whoever owns the roman gently caress coin today was passed down the story of how the original owner got it, generation to generation for 2000 years
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Nov 23, 2020 02:08
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Big Beef City posted:Are you kidding me? he is making the point that all currency systems are an arbitrary concept that is far more to do with psychology than the material the coins are made from, even back in the age when they used gold and silver which is true, but also it's real dumb to say "lol romans were so dumb, not understanding modern economic theory" when one of the biggest problems with their currency, and total economy in general, was the combo of political power + massive wealth at the top preventing economically useful, even vital, actions from being taken.
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Nov 23, 2020 02:23
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Betsy Ross had some medium naturals.
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Nov 23, 2020 05:34
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Johnny Aztec posted:I think that was more for people who couldn't read/read Latin (or Greek or whatever they were using) "Three rimbjobs and a pile driver for a bottle of wine? This place is a fuckin rip off!"
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Nov 23, 2020 09:37
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Are we supposed to believe that in Roman porn city there's not one instance of negative space mummies that are boning? I find that hard to believe. There's the one guy tucking in his shirt, but that's it.
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Nov 23, 2020 11:00
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Big Beef City posted:Please keep ranting about a monetary system that didn't operate the same way ours do or you think it did. I'm on tenterhooks for more of this hot take. Why do you reply like such a sarcastic fuckin rear end in a top hat so often pal? Expressing a cogent 1 paragraph opinion isn't a rant.
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Nov 23, 2020 11:28
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Klyith posted:he is making the point that all currency systems are an arbitrary concept that is far more to do with psychology than the material the coins are made from, even back in the age when they used gold and silver Well not exactly. Everyone more or less agreed on how much effort it took to get new gold, silver, bronze, and other things like salt. So they could agree on how many goods of other types they would exchange for. The value of Roman coins at least at first tracked pretty closely with their metal contents. Obviously they can't be worth less as people would then just melt them down and sell the metal, and they couldn't be worth much more either without a central authority guaranteeing their exchange value (it seems the Roman mint over the centuries debased their currencies so much they eventually wound up with two systems; one where coins were traded for their nominal value, and separately for their metal value. Apparently even the state didn't trust the first one, demanding taxes be paid in gold or in kind, while paying state employees in debased silver coins). Certainly you wouldn't be able to trade with foreigners by saying your pile of scrap metal is actually really valuable according to big guy back home, but they may roughly agree with you on the value of gold and silver.
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Bula Vinaka posted:House of Orpheus: I have buggered men i, too, bugger men. Syd Midnight fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Nov 24, 2020 |
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I'm down to my last rear end eating coins
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