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hello YOSPOS. I am trying to buy a hard drive because I have a large amount of media I want to store but the market has gotten so weird. there’s a ton of surveillance or server drives flooding the market and you can’t find a decent drive for a decent price anymore. plus weird stuff like if I want a 12tb drive I have to buy an Exos which is helium filled for some reason? for Pete’s sake I just want a good cheap drive that goes in my computer and keeps it simple. I assume this is because everyone just streams on Hulu now. which sucks because they don’t keep stuff around long enough for me to finish stargate sg-1. that and everyone just cares about SSDs but I don’t want to spend $1400 for a dang media drive. anyway this is the thread to complain about storage. why is it
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server drives are good OP. throw two server drives in a lovely old system you have laying around and run your favorite poo poo OS+ZFS to access your filez
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Nov 25, 2020 18:26
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just get 2 8 gigs or 3 6 gigs and chuck them in a nas for less money than that
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Nov 25, 2020 18:29
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Alzabo posted:server drives are good OP. throw two server drives in a lovely old system you have laying around and run your favorite poo poo OS+ZFS to access your filez do I look like someone who keeps old trash computers around
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Nov 25, 2020 18:34
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quote:nobody is buying hard drives for their Linux isos ????????  i think there's a whole subreddit around "shucking" where people share the latest deals on Western Digital external drives because they're great ways to get WD Red (or Red-equivalent white label) drives for low prices. those drives work fine in RAIDs built for mass ISO storage. i've done it myself.
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Nov 25, 2020 18:35
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that sounds like a pain in the rear end op. awful customer experience
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Nov 25, 2020 18:36
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T63FDJQ 14TB for $275. it's even 7200rpm. literally the second-lowest price per TB for >8TB drives listed on pcpartpicker.com EDIT: fifth-lowest $/TB for storage listed for ALL drives on pcpartpicker Farmer Crack-Ass fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Nov 25, 2020 |
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Nov 25, 2020 18:37
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14t easystores are $189 at best buy right now i bought four 8t's from them this year and have been delighted the whole time the 8t's are 139 right now and seem to be staying there
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Nov 25, 2020 18:40
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(you pop the case open with a guitar pick, pull the drive out, slam it in your computer and throw the case away)
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Nov 25, 2020 18:40
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hmm not bad but why does it need helium in it e: re: the exos drive
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Nov 25, 2020 18:41
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because helium molecules are smaller than atmospheric air molecules, so the heads can float closer to the platters and you can cram more bits in
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Nov 25, 2020 18:43
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to handle floating point numbers, op
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Nov 25, 2020 18:44
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that’s a more reasonable reason than I expected
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Nov 25, 2020 18:46
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:to handle floating point numbers, op
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Nov 25, 2020 18:50
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i grow my own bits out in the shed. don't need many these days, just enough to get through winter.
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Nov 25, 2020 18:52
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:to handle floating point numbers, op
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Nov 25, 2020 19:09
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does helium diffuse through metal? what happens when all the helium escapes, does the drive die?
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Nov 25, 2020 22:49
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Silver Alicorn posted:does helium diffuse through metal? what happens when all the helium escapes, does the drive die? yes it can/will diffuse i think basically the hard drive itself will die or be replaced before helium leaking becomes a serious concern
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Nov 25, 2020 23:04
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wait then would it be under vacuum? or what would replace the helium pressure?
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Nov 25, 2020 23:19
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idk the thing i read said that as the helium starting leaking out, nothing would replace it, so the pressure in the drive lessens and slows down the helium leakage im not an expert in gas transfer or whatever
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Nov 25, 2020 23:29
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I thought air would diffuse in as the helium diffuses out
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Nov 25, 2020 23:34
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wd greens are ssds now!?
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Nov 25, 2020 23:49
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i thought the helium these days was more for reducing air resistance and saving power. individually not a big deal but something that adds up across thousands of units in a datacenter. maybe i was wrong thoughSilver Alicorn posted:wd greens are ssds now!? they're reusing the colors across both SSD and HDD
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Nov 25, 2020 23:52
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i've got 1tb of hdds sitting on my desk right now if you want them one has a post it note saying "DBAN this" on it and the other a post it note saying "windows vista", idk what's on the other
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Nov 26, 2020 00:01
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interestingly the 8 and 10TB western digital drives are back to being air filled. these models are hotter, louder, and use more power than the previous helium filled drives. WD doesn't exactly advertise which drives are and are not helium filled. they've been playing kind of fast and loose with changing specs like this recently (see: this lawsuit about not labeling drives as SMR) but uh yeah op that doesn't really matter just but some cheap externals, shuck 'em, and fill 'er up with UHD linux isos.
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Nov 26, 2020 00:06
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shucking sounds incredibly unpleasant
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Nov 26, 2020 00:08
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i hate the word but the operation itself is fine. i did 4 drives, the first took five minutes, the other three took 30 seconds each
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Nov 26, 2020 00:09
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I don't like throwing never used plastic away but hey, we're drinking the overflow from a government contractor tap with these. We've paid for the drives via taxes already.
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Nov 26, 2020 00:10
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Silver Alicorn posted:shucking sounds incredibly unpleasant it's easy and literally what every nerd is doing for affordable bulk storage. there's an over $100 price difference between externals on sale and bare drives. or if you literally just meant the word "shucking" then uhhh idk what should we say...peeling?
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Nov 26, 2020 00:11
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Jonny 290 posted:I don't like throwing never used plastic away but hey, we're drinking the overflow from a government contractor tap with these. We've paid for the drives via taxes already. what the gently caress are you talking about
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Nov 26, 2020 00:12
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SO DEMANDING posted:what the gently caress are you talking about the fairly well confirmed rumor is that easystore drives are so incredibly cheap because they are overproduction from an enormous contract that various 3 letter agencies have for storage production
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Nov 26, 2020 00:12
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I assume shucking voids the warranty
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Nov 26, 2020 00:16
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Jonny 290 posted:the fairly well confirmed rumor is that easystore drives are so incredibly cheap because they are overproduction from an enormous contract that various 3 letter agencies have for storage production wouldn't mind seeing more on that. i mean these things have been going on sale for a few years now. like wtf happened, there was a contract for a zillion drives but then the buyer said "nah nevermind" after they were manufactured?
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Nov 26, 2020 00:18
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Silver Alicorn posted:I assume shucking voids the warranty Actually no, people have rma'd them but you need to keep the cases and put it back in before you return. as long as you didn't physically damage the drive with a shuck they don't give a drat
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Nov 26, 2020 00:18
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SO DEMANDING posted:wouldn't mind seeing more on that. i mean these things have been going on sale for a few years now. like wtf happened, there was a contract for a zillion drives but then the buyer said "nah nevermind" after they were manufactured? probably more efficient to run production line at a particular speed, make extra drives, and sell them either for low profits or a small loss. that way you have some production line buffer
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Nov 26, 2020 00:19
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Silver Alicorn posted:I assume shucking voids the warranty people have sent in bare shucked drives without issue. there have been some stories of WD giving people poo poo for this but the customer service reps shutup after being reminded of the magnuson-moss warranty act lol i think they only have a 1 year warranty anyway so it's highly unlikely you'll ever have to deal with this.
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Nov 26, 2020 00:20
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do the usb-sata boards from shucked drives work with other drives or are they somehow locked
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Nov 26, 2020 00:24
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SO DEMANDING posted:people have sent in bare shucked drives without issue. there have been some stories of WD giving people poo poo for this but the customer service reps shutup after being reminded of the magnuson-moss warranty act lol nah it's two year warranty. not huge but better than one year.
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Nov 26, 2020 00:27
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:nah it's two year warranty. not huge but better than one year. oh whoops how about that
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i bought a couple 8tb easystores a few months ago, one to expand my existing array, and one as a cold spare in case the pandemic clobbered hard drive availability
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