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Epinephrine
Nov 7, 2008


Inauguration Day in the US is on January 20th, 2021. By the end of that day, Donald Trump will no longer be President of the United States.

The purpose of this thread is to watch as he continues to flail against this reality and, perhaps, slowly come to terms with his defeat. Post here about how this reality becoming yet more inevitable than it already is and how the soon-to-be former President reacts.

I thought it might be fun to frame this in terms of the Kübler-Ross model, aka the Five Stages of Grief. Rather than paraphrase, here's what the wiki says on the topic:

quote:

Kübler-Ross originally developed stages to describe the process patients with terminal illness go through as they come to terms with their own deaths; it was later applied to grieving friends and family as well, who seemed to undergo a similar process.[9] The stages, popularly known by the acronym DABDA, include:[10]

Denial – The first reaction is denial. In this stage, individuals believe the diagnosis is somehow mistaken, and cling to a false, preferable reality.
Anger – When the individual recognizes that denial cannot continue, they become frustrated, especially at proximate individuals. Certain psychological responses of a person undergoing this phase would be: "Why me? It's not fair!"; "How can this happen to me?"; "Who is to blame?"; "Why would this happen?".
Bargaining – The third stage involves the hope that the individual can avoid a cause of grief. Usually, the negotiation for an extended life is made in exchange for a reformed lifestyle. People facing less serious trauma can bargain or seek compromise. Examples include the terminally ill person who "negotiates with God" to attend a daughter's wedding, an attempt to bargain for more time to live in exchange for a reformed lifestyle or a phrase such as "If I could trade their life for mine".
Depression – "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "I'm going to die soon, so what's the point?"; "I miss my loved one; why go on?"
During the fourth stage, the individual despairs at the recognition of their mortality. In this state, the individual may become silent, refuse visitors and spend much of the time mournful and sullen.
Acceptance – "It's going to be okay."; "I can't fight it; I may as well prepare for it."
In this last stage, individuals embrace mortality or inevitable future, or that of a loved one, or other tragic event. People dying may precede the survivors in this state, which typically comes with a calm, retrospective view for the individual, and a stable condition of emotions.
You'll note that this is framed in terms of coming to terms with dying. In Trump's worldview, losing this election is probably about the same. In either case, people apply it casually to other forms of loss, and I don't mean to use this as a scientific means of understanding what's going on (the science behind it is pretty weak anyway).

So, where is Trump at the time of this OP? I think he's still in denial:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...214247955738624
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...624798372438018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...655154492448770

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Pick
Jul 19, 2009

powerful beyond man's wildest imagination


Nap Ghost

I think he is probably going to sulk for the next couple years. I remember making a post in USPOL about my sulking projection (as opposed to The Atlantic's fearmongering "off the walls competent GOP suddenly"). His sulking is funny because he's a loser who sucks, op.

Sarcastro
Dec 28, 2000
Elite member of the Grammar Nazi Squad that

Yeah, he may at some point progress beyond Denial, but he will never, ever, ever reach Acceptance. We've seen that his mind simply cannot work that way.

NecroBob
Jul 29, 2003

the happiest sperm cell in the load

An eternal "Depression" stage is also acceptable.

Epinephrine
Nov 7, 2008


Inevitable things become more inevitable when allies break away from the narrative of denial. For example, CNN reported that in the days after the election members of the Trump clan urged Donald to concede. Among Trump's allies in the press are OANN and Newsmax. Newsmax today called Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Nevada for Biden:
https://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1331369072056012808

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Shitposting 24/7 without regrets. my parents would be proud.


Epinephrine posted:

Inevitable things become more inevitable when allies break away from the narrative of denial. For example, CNN reported that in the days after the election members of the Trump clan urged Donald to concede. Among Trump's allies in the press are OANN and Newsmax. Newsmax today called Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Nevada for Biden:
https://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1331369072056012808

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...695288231333890

already posted this but this is the full thing. i suspect we are gonna be at the anger stage until he realizes that army group Steiner i Rudy isnt gonna stop the electors from declaring biden the winner in December. than he will either keep doing the same impotent poo poo with more sulking OR some purges in various departments. to sound a little covok. i do worry he might try to strike Iran or some poo poo but the pentagon will tell him to screw.

Epinephrine
Nov 7, 2008


Slow news day, only three tweets.

More denial:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...987171700510720
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...062259078721538
But there are some small bits of anger (this has been on-and-off for a while now):
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...219312112250890

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Shitposting 24/7 without regrets. my parents would be proud.


https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1332097525273255938
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1332100157501018113
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1332195195396395008
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1332187646064422914

trump gurgled and yelled tonight

than he did it again.


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...169753004224515

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...173996134195202

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...175155104247808

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.



The last two are in particular response to #DiaperDon trending on twitter which is loving amazing

https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/sta...0011545601?s=20

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Shitposting 24/7 without regrets. my parents would be proud.


Zaphod42 posted:

The last two are in particular response to #DiaperDon trending on twitter which is loving amazing

https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/sta...0011545601?s=20

yeah. its funny. the trending thing never really got to him until this year and now it must hurt alot. gently caress him, i am glad.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010


Some strong Joffrey Baratheon energy there

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001


please please nuke section 230, if only just to watch big tech companies lose their poo poo

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Shitposting 24/7 without regrets. my parents would be proud.


Charlz Guybon posted:

Some strong Joffrey Baratheon energy there


yeah, i am not proud but i have quoted that line a couple dozen times or more in the last few years. thank loving christ trump never listens to people.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

I don't think Trump will ever make it past the first stage, because that would imply some modicum of personal growth.

Epinephrine
Nov 7, 2008


Another of Trump's lawsuits fell apart in court
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...nsylvania-court
and a recount in Wisconsin gave votes . . . to Biden
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ordered-recount
Meanwhile, today and yesterday, Trump hasn't really changed:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...337895584264197
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...349861774155778
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...407714304110597
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...552283553476608
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...778938121203720

cant cook creole bream posted:

I don't think Trump will ever make it past the first stage, because that would imply some modicum of personal growth.
Funny thing about this theory. The stages have been shown to not occur in any particular order; in fact it is technically possible to be in all five stages at once. If you see something out of order, it's probably happening!

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Shitposting 24/7 without regrets. my parents would be proud.


Epinephrine posted:

Another of Trump's lawsuits fell apart in court
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...nsylvania-court
and a recount in Wisconsin gave votes . . . to Biden
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ordered-recount
Meanwhile, today and yesterday, Trump hasn't really changed:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...337895584264197
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...349861774155778
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...407714304110597
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...552283553476608
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...778938121203720

Funny thing about this theory. The stages have been shown to not occur in any particular order; in fact it is technically possible to be in all five stages at once. If you see something out of order, it's probably happening!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...788716818010114

i think its a mix of denial/anger and will be past the 14th. i have seen other goons say that if he actually wanted to try to stop this, than he would try. but its clear the dudes always been a dumb petty rear end in a top hat think thinks the world will bend the knee hard. i think he does know he lost and i think he will try to damage poo poo between the 14th and 20th but the goverment won't do poo poo to help him. also his insanity is breaking his bases brain more.https://twitter.com/ryanobles/statu...719431148036097

Epinephrine
Nov 7, 2008


Not much has changed, more tweets more noise. If I see any that aren't clear denial I'll post them. In the meantime, Trump decided to make another denial speech:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump...240039639937026

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

0.000% of Communism has been built.
Evil, child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit eating grin.

All he has managed to do is make himself *sad*.

Instead of building communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.





the false assumption of this thread is that trump has psychology

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018




Communist Thoughts posted:

the false assumption of this thread is that trump has psychology

p-zombie tape is real

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Shitposting 24/7 without regrets. my parents would be proud.


Communist Thoughts posted:

the false assumption of this thread is that trump has psychology

true. trumps an eldrich tabula rasa when it comes to his psyche and poo poo.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009

powerful beyond man's wildest imagination


Nap Ghost

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/...9231208452?s=21

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011


Depression
Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Denial

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

NUKE THEIR ASS
TAKE THEIR GAS


Slippery Tilde

Eight years from now he'll be telling people "I was elected and never got to serve so practically speaking I'm still owed a term."

Pick
Jul 19, 2009

powerful beyond man's wildest imagination


Nap Ghost

So... "bargaining" seems to have stayed on the radar.

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Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story


He did talk about the "Biden administration" today so he has actually managed to reach acceptance.

But only acceptance that he will not be president after January 20th. He has not accepted that he lost, and never will.

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