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Cheatum the Evil Midget
Sep 11, 2000
I COULDN'T BACK UP ANY OF MY ARGUEMENTS, IGNORE ME PLEASE.

CaptainSarcastic posted:

EYE: Divine Cybermancy was brought up earlier and while I have that in my library, I think I played for maybe 30 or 40 minutes before I bounced off of it. Is that a game people actually like and defend?

Some goon in the EYE thread described it thusly:

"You are a robot man who dropped a tab of acid and found a minigun"

If you can roleplay that then EYE will cause you to experience ego death and glimpse the path to Nirvana

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Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002



https://twitter.com/nibellion/status/1465362003376152576?s=21

Noted dead game Cybperpunk reportedly not dead

Eraflure
Oct 12, 2012




CDPR has started early "exploratory work" on new projects as well

who could have seen this coming

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017





Tenzarin posted:

So odd people need to kick the legs out of the witcher 3 so cyberpunk has a chance to stand on its own.

So odd people need to act like they've co-signed a loan with a game when you point out things in a game you liked that you found less than fun.

Bronze Fonz
Feb 14, 2019






Eraflure posted:

CDPR has started early "exploratory work" on new projects as well

who could have seen this coming

Imagine, a game developer exploring new IP's!

Did anyone get mad when Bethesda announced Starfield instead of a new Elder Scrolls or Fallout game?

Hawgh
Feb 27, 2013

Size does matter, after all.

Bronze Fonz posted:

Imagine, a game developer exploring new IP's!

Did anyone get mad when Bethesda announced Starfield instead of a new Elder Scrolls or Fallout game?

Having not looked into this even slightly, I'm going to give you an absolutely ironclad guarantee, that someone got very mad indeed.

Bronze Fonz
Feb 14, 2019






Probably not since they've announced both together no?
Point is regardless of CP77's future it's to be expected they explore new IPs.

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...



Pork Pro

Bronze Fonz posted:

Imagine, a game developer exploring new IP's!

Did anyone get mad when Bethesda announced Starfield instead of a new Elder Scrolls or Fallout game?

:lol: yes

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender

Everyone has known starfield has been coming for along time. It was Todd's dream ever since he was computer tech support for the people that made daggerfall.

Splorange
Feb 23, 2011



I wonder if Todd will incessantly tweet 'dead game' @bethesda when his dream Jesus game turns out to be just another Bethesda kiddie pool.

Robobot
Aug 21, 2018


Bronze Fonz posted:

Imagine, a game developer exploring new IP's!

Did anyone get mad when Bethesda announced Starfield instead of a new Elder Scrolls or Fallout game?

I started playing Skyrim again for the millionth time because Iím excited for Starfield. I canít wait to immediately attack the fist guard/space police/whatever I see.

Donít know what that has to do with anything, but there ya go.

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari


people are going to be pissed when the NEXT GEN UPDATE tm is just the current pc build

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

RELY NOT ON MY HONOR!!! FOR WHEN I OFFER MY WORD OF BOND, I TAKE NOT THAT VOW TO HEART!! CASUALLY, I BRING SHAME TO MY HOUSEHOLD AND RUIN TO THOSE WHO RELY ON MY COMMITMENT, BY SHIRKING MY AVOWED DUTY

"I used to be a space adventurer like you, then I took a space arrow in the knee"

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014



*vast universe can be crossed in 20 minutes*

Eraflure
Oct 12, 2012




Bronze Fonz posted:

Imagine, a game developer exploring new IP's!

Pretty sure they didn't expect to spend so much time and effort on this game just to call it quits without even reusing the setting/assets, so yeah it's worth noting they're admitting defeat on that point.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky, And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by

'New projects' could mean more Cyberpunk or it could not. They've gone dead silent on that multiplayer Cyberpunk companion project so I suspect that's dead.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

Colonel, there's no exposed breasts in these dark souls

If you think they are just abandoning Cyberpunk you don't know anything about game design, business, or finance. That's the end of it.

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...



Pork Pro

For all of this threadís chagrin and gnashing of teeth, CP77 was a huge (financial) success and showed that their PR machine can play with the big boys. They now have two IPs with huge name recognition and enough money to start fielding multiple dev teams.

So yeah, probably Witcher 4 and Cyberpunk 2078, but they canít talk about that until Next Gen and DLC.
:shrug:

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004






Zeta Acosta posted:

people are going to be pissed when the NEXT GEN UPDATE tm is just the current pc build

Why? What else could they possibly be expecting, really?

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.



"We're exploring new projects" isn't coded language stating they're abandoning the IP, it's something standard you say to investors who want to hear about new and exciting things when it's still too early to talk about the new and exciting things.

If anything, glancing through their financials suggests they're going to stick with Cyberpunk. Despite the costs it's selling enough to keep them in the black and they're probably expecting a really long tail on the sales if they can get it into a state where the overwhelming opinion shifts from "this is a mess lol" to "actually it's alright and the expansion makes the whole thing worth it." And they can't announce a Cyberpunk sequel or spin-off until they fix the first game anyways. Any trust the studio had from Witcher 3 has all but evaporated and they need to correct for that, announcing a new game in the setting now would just have people asking when they plan to finish developing the first one.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky, And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by

Yeah first they'll release the 'definitive edition' of Cyberpunk next year and people will be 'hey it's alright'. Then they release the 'definitive edition' of Witcher 3 and everyone will replay that and love it and remember that CDPR can make good games. Then they're 2 years out from the last game release and have another 2 years to finish whatever is cooking in pre-production now.

That's if they've fixed the project management issues that clearly plagued development of cyperpunk.

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender

Whose gonna be the main character in cyberpunk 2? Kevin Spacy? Chris prat?

Bedlam
Feb 15, 2008

Angry thoughts



As much as people seem to dislike Keanu I think we can all agree it would be an absolute nightmare to go through the game with Chris Pratt's Johnny Silverhand chiming in every 5 minutes.

The Gadfly
Sep 23, 2012


I am very skeptical of Starfield. Sci-fi futuristic open world games are much harder to make than stuff like Fallout or Witcher 3.

I think if Cyberpunk were set in a barren wasteland, then it probably would've been a much more polished game because the complexity is much lower.

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...



Pork Pro

Starfield is going to be Outer Worlds but with crappier characters, worse dialogue, and a barely existent plot; but it will have a 24-hour NPC cycle, random encounters, and lots of crafting.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010


Eraflure posted:

Pretty sure they didn't expect to spend so much time and effort on this game just to call it quits without even reusing the setting/assets, so yeah it's worth noting they're admitting defeat on that point.

CP2077 is a shitshow but the surprise for me is that they werent looking at new IPs yet. It'll be another 6 years before they release a new title if they dont have anything in the pipeline yet and it wont be another 2 years at least till it hits full production even if they get a new IP right this moment.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

The video arcade made me what I am today!



Bust Rodd posted:

I genuinely believe that a Cyberpunk 2077 that simply fixed everything that is currently contained within the game would make it a very good video game without having to add anything. Just fix//repair driving and character customization and crafting and combat and enemy AI and Traffic AI and pedestrian reaction AI and make sure all the perks work and cut all the bad Fallout Perks and replace them with good New Vegas perks. If they simply managed to clean up the big mess on the floor and replate, nice and stable, with a little garnish, I think a lot of people would be happy with where it ended up.

But you canít add a new floor to a house that is burning down, you gotta right the ship.

I only just now bought and started playing this game but this is how I feel, although I wouldn't even go so far as to say that any of that stuff you mentioned was that "bad". Enemy AI is total garbage, ehhhh fair point, but I'm getting a distinct (if unintentional) 2005 vibe from the game and it's scratching that VtM Bloodlines itch that won't be scratched by that VtM: B sequel that's never coming out. I have to just settle for Cyberpunk, and it's fine!

No really, it's fine. I don't get why people expend so much hate on this game, I'm enjoying it so far and I'm like 7 hours in.

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2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Hell hath no fury like a disappointed fan

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