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SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Musket party time.

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SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Things that need salvaging from the previous threads list: Polycav's Iran/Iraq war summaries, Trin Tragula Great War stuff and the Polish-Soviet War effort posts from a thread or two back were great.

How many of us have archives anyway? I can dig around if needed.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


HEY GUNS posted:

that's cessna, who wears them for fun (it's not what it looks like)

Doesn't Cessna also have a time share on a Soviet tank for reinacment purposes?

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Mr Enderby posted:

Yes. It's true that 18th century Europeans are better at almost everything than 15th century Europeans. Their bureaucracies are more functional, courts are better, literacy rates are higher, governments are more accountable. But has there been a specific change in military capabilities, or is it just a matter of overall improvement?

Both.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


quote:

Hey, if it means anything, their early-war paratroopers had it worse. Their Fallschirmjagers (paratroopers, and I'm too lazy to put the umlaut over the "a") were set up to jump from low altitudes. They wore a distinctive jumper-outfit over their gear, the idea being that it would keep their gear from snagging on anything parachute-related when they jumped.

Guess what? There's sort of a fly opening, but if you want to poop, you have to take off your entire uniform:



To quote a fictional grown man in a Butterfly villain costume:

quote:

Nice onesie, dick. Does it have snaps in the back so you can make poopie?

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


LingcodKilla posted:

Fairly sure I read somewhere that the various designers had seen/studied “razee” frigates. Basically cut down three deck ship of the line that keep the original rigging but lose a whole decks worth of weight.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Indefatigable_(1784)

Reading a biography of Pellow, cannot wait for this bit.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


I assume some of the early DDR uniform stuff was done for cost reasons. Doesn't excuse it and man those fifties early conscipts must of not been the best fans.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Cessna posted:



Feldgrau uniform. Identical rank insignia. Similar shooter's lanyard. Similar collar litzen. Identical pockets. Similar cut. Similar pattern "cuff title." That's a Wehrmacht uniform with updates. They slightly redesigned the uniforms, then issued hundreds of thousands of them.

Since they're redesigning them anyway, why not make them look a bit less Wehrmacht-y? I doubt they saved any money there.

Okay, then somebody clearly has an unhealthy fascination with the past!

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Yeah I was thinking the same thing, was that just a eccentric extra or was there a crazy maverick who refused to cut his Meiji era beard?

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


HEY GUNS posted:

why would they care? some of them were the same guys

they even goose step and their parade flags were distinctly Eagle shaped

Thinking of the post war teenagers not the old sweats. I know some didn't have a choice but still.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Panzeh posted:

I don't think it's really true that cavalry ditched carbines and pistols during the Napoleonic Wars. Perhaps for shooting up formed infantry, but IIRC Napoleon actually deliberately asked for more carbines for his cavalry for the 1812 campaign in Russia, due to the need for them in not-so-pitched battles.

Yeah all types of cavalry rolled with firearms. It would be crazy not too.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Dragoons got to dragoon too. It's hard to do picket duty with swords, how you going to sound the alarm?

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Haha, Hussars knightly pull the other one.

Somebody clearly hasn't heard the dirty Hussar jokes.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


The Lone Badger posted:

Where does a particularly prestigious infantry unit (grenadiers, say) fall on this list? Above or below dragoons?

You talking monarch favourite palace guard or veteran specialists who fight here?

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Despite being modular even the with the base essentials of the 37 webbing was awkward and made noise too with movement.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Still makes me laugh how horny that movie is.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Schadenboner posted:

The gun the Irish guy in Sharpe had: The loads were pistol balls right? And did the barrels all go off at once or was that selectable?

E: Dangling participles like I'm hanging .

The Nock gun?

All the barrels went off at once. Part of the problem is this is the recoil of SEVEN MUSKETS GOING OFF AT ONCE and was not comfortable to fire at all.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


I wonder now if it was possible if a Nock gun could have been modified at the time to have selective fire?

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

It had a single flintlock so not without wildly reimagining it. You could make a version that was essentially a bunch of separate muskets glued together

The Musketron.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Platoon fire, lots more of it.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


So uh Cessna you going to break down Allied Paratrooper uniform stuff too?

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Fair enough, even Soviet Paratrooper gear would be nice.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Jobbo_Fett posted:

Okay, I just like the chest rig.

You and the Axis/Germany art guys for Battlefield V.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


More likely South African/Rhodesian.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Yeah I imagine most people reading this thread know this but the "light" translation in a lot of french milhist is often misleading and it most definitely is for the DLMs. The "light" refers to mobility entirely, so it works 90% of the time. Light infantry vs heavy infantry yeah, the lights will run faster and longer but sacrifice weapons and gear so they might not be able to stand up to the heavy infantry 1v1. Stuff like that. But the DLMs or "light" mechanized divisions were not lightly armed, they were cream of the crop cavalry divisions who on paper were perfectly equivalent to a german panzer division, and certainly put paid to the myth that the allies hadn't thought of an armoured division until Rommel was in Paris. And the DLMs were riding partially in the heaviest armour the french had outside of the B1.

I'm extremely biased in talking them up though because honestly, I think the S35 is the sexiest vehicle yet to exist.

Get the gently caress out of here with your panthers and your t-80s

I love that little guy in World Of Tanks.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Kemper Boyd posted:

3/5 reference post, should have changed out imitation crab meat for expired military rations tho.

Also, get David Hader to do a read out of it.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Wasn't the wooden bomb thing to do more with intelligence and counter intelligence code breaking?

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


It's looks great.

drat streaming service paywalls.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Until the nineties in the UK at least the armed forces had a sort of physical fitness drill tournament against each other which did have soldiers setting up and moving traditional artillery pieces.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Patrick Spens posted:

Why do you open your mouth?

WHAT

I CANNOT HEAR YOU

MWAP MWAP

WHAT IS THAT RINGING SOUND? NEVERMIND, I CANNOT HEAR A THING NOW

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


bewbies posted:

I didn't read the quoted part first and thought this was a curiously aggressive response to a fairly benign post

I mean you are going to be exactly the same way if artillery damages your hearing out the blue.

And no doubt through the history of artillery transending time, culture and langauge most of those reactions have certainly followed.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Vagabong posted:

Where the majority of people manning artillery throughout history suffering from severe hearing problems then? I haven't heard about any form ear protection, but people must of recognised the issue and attempted to ameliorate it somehow, right? Or was the hands and mouth method enough protection?

Attempts to tackle such issues with soldiering together, whether working with machinery, around machinery and of course operating weaponry only started to be seriously considered outside the small tricks of the trade in the late 20th century.

My dad who was in the RAF from the eighties to the early nineties was given foam ear plugs, tiny cheap things that were barely worn. This was before PPE really got into the system. His hearing is hosed, but only partially to soldiering (he listened to music loudly and went to concerts when he could).

Soldiers until recently would have suffered all kinds of hearing issues.

Also, RIP Uniform History channel. You were good, but sadly you will be gone. I will wait for another.

SeanBeansShako fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Dec 24, 2020

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Cyrano4747 posted:

What happened to it?

And yeah, soldiers hearing tends to get hosed even today. Hearing loss is really common.

According to that little creator feedback window on YouTube they are just shutting it down. I guess it was just not pulling in the money for the creator and they need to work in other fields.

A shame, the camo pattern/uniform stuff was great and had a blast with the fictional cosplay/recreation videos too.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


*roundshot takes off a mans legs, right next to him in the now open file*

'Look at this pussy rear end bitch complaining about no legs!'

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Douglas Bader gets to say this. Nobody else does.

That man is the guy in tub thumping IMO.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Arquinsiel posted:

Aren't we all?

Red makes light infantry faster, fact.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


'You are all jealous, the boche won't expect a bayonet coated in Ether in the gut!'

I think he means serated.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


ThaBus posted:

They kinda ended up sucking for the actual sawing part compared to proper tools which is why only the Germans still have them by the time the war breaks out. (not 100% sure why they still kept them tbh)

I mean they still could be used for forage and whatever wood based repair/maintaining Sappers had to do outside the entrenched front line.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Welcome to the old weapon zone, 24/7 discussion on pikes and bayonets. Sometimes we talk about swords too.

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SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009


Gort posted:

I thought France was pretty decent at making weapons in quantity, how goofy were their practices?

How do you feel about Monopoly?

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