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Yeah, Carter was great for all five minutes she was alive. The fact that I even remembered she existed when this LP started despite not having touched this game since my initial playthrough at release attests to that. Even after Dragonfall, I didn't expect her immediately getting the "Monika Special". I think the ambush as a whole was pretty well done.
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Dec 28, 2020 16:00
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Servetus posted:What are those little wing things on the back of his shoulder blades supposed to be? There was an armor in Dragonfall that looked like that and I could never figure out what those were. Cool.
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Dec 28, 2020 16:40
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Stroth posted:I still had to take a moment to process what the gently caress had just happened when the game suddenly exploded three people's heads just as the tension was starting to wind down. Same. Only way they could've made it more WTF was by offing your PC and having you create a new one trying to track down the killers. Make it so story-wise they're twins since 95% of people would create the exact same character.
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Dec 28, 2020 20:44
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Being cool means more Edge; you can use that Edge to reroll your self-stab armor roll chummer.
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Dec 28, 2020 21:54
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sincx posted:Noticeable lack of armored Unimogs, water cannons, and PLA backup from the in-game HKPF. 4/10 for accuracy. Yeah, we're probably going to get into some Lore at some point in this thread, but for now lets just say that PLA backup is rather unlikely given the state of China in SR. You're more likely to see the HKPF backed by Imperial Japanese Navy Marines than the PLA. And I think we're past the water cannon stage on the escalation chart right now, what with the bad cases of sudden head explosion syndrome we've seen.
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Dec 28, 2020 22:21
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bob dobbs is dead posted:the hong kong police force: brought to you by mitsuhama corp! Probably still more professional than Lone Star. Just don't set foot into one of their precincts because you're probably gonna have to face 4 turrets, 6 laser barriers and 3 basilisks named Billy before you can make it to the front desk to make your deposition.
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Dec 29, 2020 00:21
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wiegieman posted:Even if you bleed all over an Aztechnology facility they can still only use it for a few hours. Maybe, but it's not something I'm interested in verifying.
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Dec 29, 2020 21:41
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I've always found that particular loophole for casting spells from a distance to be pretty funny. Somewhere some megacorp has a system of orbiting mirrors and complex optics and a team of mages that can cast spells anywhere in the world at any time. Probably Ares, they're one of the big space players and blowing things up is their thing.
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Dec 30, 2020 15:13
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kaosdrachen posted:The reason that's not a major concern is because casting through binoculars is really drat hard. It's been ages since I checked the rules and I'm mostly a 3E guy anyway, but it's like trying to thread a needle using a 50-yard-long set of pliers. Well that's why you have very big space mirrors and very big lenses. Movie theater sized lens for your mages to peer through. It's one of those cool-sounding, utterly impractical and complex thing you throw piles and piles of cash into to get sorta working then never actually use because it's secret and you don't want to reveal its existence until it's absolutely necessary. As I said, perfect for Ares; after all they're the defense contractor-est of the AAAs. Probably named it Project Panopticon or something.
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Dec 30, 2020 20:43
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Come on, no sane corp with an army of bean counters is gonna pay a mage to monitor a single "camera" 24/7. There's probably a system of mirrors connected to a motor and a computer somewhere to switch between the various endpoints. That's what you target. Now whether it's hacking with a decker or with Brick The Troll and his sharpened surfboard, that's up to you.
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Dec 31, 2020 01:40
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paragon1 posted:Ares isn't going to build the complex space mirror and telescope system because nobody is going to pay for an ultra-expensive system that can be foiled by a loving cloud when you already have GPS and rods from god. I'm not sure you understand how defense contractors work.
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Dec 31, 2020 05:02
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paragon1 posted:Ares is more of a service provider than a pure defense contractor really. They don't build big infrastructure to sell to someone else when they can rent it to them instead. The UCAS still has significant power projection capabilities though, don't they? I thought they were one of the only three factions in Shadowrun that fielded nuclear carrier battle groups, the other two being the IJN and S-K. And really, the Pentagon is still standing in Shadowrun, as far as I know. If there's one tradition I'd expect to have survived since the days of the good ol' US of A, it's that place acting as a black hole for money. What else is the UCAS gonna spend its tax revenue on anyway?
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Jan 1, 2021 00:08
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That moody music track is great and really sets the mood for the whole game. Both the Dragonfall and Hong Kong soundtracks fit their respective games perfectly.
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Jan 4, 2021 18:54
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KataraniSword posted:No, that's how you become a Fixer. Yeah. Runners tend to be the ones asking for the favours, not holding a whole portfolio of them. Like our poor bastards in-game right now. The warrants and enemies, though, yeah runners get those. Also as evidenced by our poor bastards in-game right now.
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Jan 5, 2021 17:12
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Quackles posted:Pocky? "The official snack of the Imperial Japanese Navy!" ...probably.
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Jan 6, 2021 15:16
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SIGSEGV posted:That's wheat, not compressed sawdust and chocolate colored used industrial grease. This probably describes a lot of the most commons foods in Shadowrun. Well except the chocolate part; that's replaced with soycolate.
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I think there were cases of the IJA deliberately conscripting (or trying to at least) dockworkers, shipyard workers, merchant marine and other people with similar expertise just so the IJN couldn't get them. And then there was the navy and the army trying as hard as they could to not share any equipment whatsoever, with engineers developing what was, say, basically the exact same plane for the navy and the army not being allowed to talk to each other. I'm not an expert on the topic though, that's just stuff I remember off the top of my head; it might not actually be true, but lol that it's still plausible.
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Jan 7, 2021 21:46
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I'm surprised they weren't infiltrating each other with spies, honestly. Well, I'm assuming they weren't. That might be an incorrect assumption.
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Jan 8, 2021 00:41
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I don't know, I feel like fortresses are more of a Mitsuhama thing.
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Jan 9, 2021 20:50
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Come on, it's Tokyo in a cyberpunk setting. It HAS to be called Neo-Tokyo. I think there might be a law on the book about that.
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Jan 9, 2021 21:25
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Yeah sure the historical KWC was a horrifying unsanitary crime-ridden sardine can of a fire trap, but it was apparently a good place to get great deals on dental work by less-than-licensed dentists!
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Jan 11, 2021 23:26
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Psion posted:If you want to see some real aeronautical insanity look for videos of planes landing at Kai Tak. You basically flew directly at a mountaintop and then hauled over in a hard right turn; if you had the runway in sight better hope you line up fast so you can put it down, otherwise go around and do it again. Not turning was not an option. And just to make it fun, no overshoots allowed, because then you're in the harbor. And it's a busy airport (peak was ~36 planes taking off or landing per hour) and because it was for a busy city, we're talking big jets, too. I always just assumed pilots did a shot of whiskey/vodka then went "welp, time to die" before starting that approach. Also I think that SFO alternate approach explains that one time I landed there and it felt... wilder than usual.
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I dont know posted:I don't imagine mugging random strangers was tolerated. Organized crime was the law, and a wealth illicit goods and services were for sale. If someone comes in looking to spend money on drugs, prostitution, gambling, or unlicensed surgery, money you steal from them is money that rightfully belongs to your local triad boss. Basically, just imagine someone starting poo poo on our new friend Kindly Cheng's turf and how that would go.
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Jan 12, 2021 16:36
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Yeah, I'm legit looking forward to seeing all the stuff I missed in this game when we get to it in this LP. It's been a long time, but I definitely remember a number of reactions both for party members and for other characters that absolutely depend which characters you bring.
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Jan 24, 2021 05:28
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Kanfy posted:
Alright, this is amazing.
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Feb 1, 2021 13:38
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MagusofStars posted:It just clearly sends the message that holy hell, we might be miles over our head in dealing with Cheng. True, but it also establishes that if you're useful to her, she will overlook things. She's nothing if not pragmatic. I mean we still don't quite know what's going to happen to Bao, but it's clear that if she wanted him worse-than-dead it would have already happened. Just don't overestimate how useful you are to her when you... take initiative, so to speak.
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Cythereal posted:And I think in this case, it's in the PC's favor that it's not remotely clear yet what the hell went down or why. I think Chen is electing to move carefully with the PC right now, until such time as she gets a good grasp of precisely what kind of poo poo got dumped into her backyard and who dropped it. Yeah. For all she knows whoever is after the PC is after them because they know something. And now whoever is after them might think that Chen now knows something too. And it's clear that whoever is after the PC can, at the very least, make the HKPF into their own personal hit squad which is rather worrying for her. She wasn't kidding in one of the previous updates when she said that Gobbet and Is0bel had just dropped a huge pile of flaming dogshit on her doorstep (or however she phrased it).
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wiegieman posted:As a side note, we know that we're not facing one of the big 10 because they have their own people for this kind of operation. The Hong Kong cops exist to muscle for the local A and AA corps (who in turn exist to act as cutouts and bagmen for the big players, no matter what they think of themselves) but they can't hold a candle to the likes of Firewatch or the Red Samurai. If those guys were involved, we'd be dead already. Eh, I dunno. You don't send your corp special forces to deal with a bunch of nobodies. I mean, the part about us being dead if that were the case is absolutely true, but making a call to the local SWAT team is a lot easier and a lot more discreet. A Firewatch or Red Samurai team is a precious resource and they already have a busy schedule dealing with things that actually matter like insect spirit nests or assaults on multi-billion dollar research facilities by soon-to-be-dead runners.
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Feb 2, 2021 18:18
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Do not eat the honey!
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paragon1 posted:Hey now, all blood sacrifices are 100% voluntary and willing! Or they're prisoners which, y'know, aren't actually people.
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Feb 12, 2021 19:36
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paragon1 posted:That's for secret R&D and destroying your enemies. The public religious stuff is separate. I meant actual SIN-having officially criminals sort of prisoners, not the SINless failed runners kind of prisoners.
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For stuff like we saw in Dragonfall sure. But for a big public spectacle like those in Aztlan? You want some notorious murderer or corrupt official or anyone else who'll get the crowd cheering as a Sun Priest rips their still-beating heart out of their chest.
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Feb 12, 2021 22:37
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Well it IS in your contract.
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Feb 12, 2021 23:41
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Most likely fighting vampires since if there's one thing the Azzies love it's vampires. Could probably make a good anime out of that.
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Feb 13, 2021 00:04
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Revengeance comes first.
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Feb 14, 2021 01:52
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Quackles posted:Somewhere that's not Hong Kong. Right, so somewhere where we don't even have a local crime lord with whom we've at least established we can follow basic orders. I don't know what your plan is, but moving far away and getting a job at the corner Stuffer Shack isn't exactly an option when you're an international terrorist.
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Yeah I think it's pretty clear that the devs didn't want to have Is0bel be "mandatory combat deadweight" for anyone who isn't a decker themselves (and doesn't want to be locked out of many things). I think they did a pretty decent job since even when playing as a decker I still brought her along pretty much all the time. And she's a good decker too to the point my character ended up part time decker later, going for rifles and cyberware combat instead.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Can't be, she didn't offer us any soup. That may very well be for the best. You'd probably have to burn a point of Body or Essence or something.
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