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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Robot Hobo posted:

In retrospect, that might say a lot more about their technology than it does about their magic.

Especially its user-friendliness or lack thereof.

Dr Strange specifically made a point that science isn't wrong, it's just incomplete, and indeed some scientific knowledge seems to be rather a boon when learning magic. And possibly vice versa, given a centuries/millennia old wizard knows at least the basics about how computers work.

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McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






ghostwritingduck posted:

While hugely disruptive, halving the world population would bring it back to 1960’s level. The sudden disappearance of half the world population could shatter society, but they also bounced back from an alien invasion like it was nothing.

"Hugely disruptive" is really underselling it. Population losses far lower have brought societies to the brink of collapse before, and they didn't happen instantly and indiscriminately across all sectors of human organization by magical fiat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4XgpB7WbYY

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Not to mention everyone returning all at once wouldn't bring the food supply and distribution systems to its knees.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Yeah, it's not really a narrative event that bears scrutiny.

Mentally I've placed it in a box and I'm basically ignoring it. They'll play it for pathos once or twice, like this story is, or they'll handwave it but, lol, this is a cartoon world.

sticklefifer
Nov 11, 2003

by VideoGames

Gavok posted:

Just cast John Silver as Wolverine. He'd be the right height too!
My first thought for a wrestler playing Wolverine was actually Pac if he has even the slightest ability to hide how British he sounds. He's 5'8", super cut, crazy athletic, and can pull off a good beard. Whether he can act though, I have no idea.

McSpanky posted:

"Hugely disruptive" is really underselling it. Population losses far lower have brought societies to the brink of collapse before, and they didn't happen instantly and indiscriminately across all sectors of human organization by magical fiat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4XgpB7WbYY
I imagine that in a world with a crapton of superheroes and giant government organizations, humanitarian aid becomes less of a problem. Need a ton of food delivered in a very short period of time? Call the guys who make portals with their hands. Need to transport a bunch of equipment? Call the guy who shrinks an office building and carries it around like a rolling suitcase.

That said, it's everywhere in the universe, so we have yet to see how much Thanos hosed up other worlds and how much aid is needed by other planets. I'm wondering if Guardians 3 is going to touch upon that.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Open Source Idiom posted:

Yeah, it's not really a narrative event that bears scrutiny.

Mentally I've placed it in a box and I'm basically ignoring it. They'll play it for pathos once or twice, like this story is, or they'll handwave it but, lol, this is a cartoon world.

Oh yeah I agree. Would be interesting to see as a slice of life one shot comic, but overall don't need to cover it in the main universe.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
Blending in like it ain't no thang
So while many of you are aware that "Agatha All Along" is a gigantically memorable bop, are you also aware that it is just as much a bop in Spanish as well?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPPLsfFkoCI

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Good shot of Kates costume during filming of Hawkeye behind the spoiler

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

twistedmentat posted:

Good shot of Kates costume during filming of Hawkeye behind the spoiler



Good lord if they can capture even a fraction of the "Hawkguy" vibe in this show it's going to be incredible.

VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

Transform
and
Freak Out



Azhais posted:

Strange also had more time to train between the movies and didn't need to be carried hard by his cloak

I just imagine that Strange spent the equivalent of millions of years getting killed by Dormammu. That's a lot of practice.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

twistedmentat posted:

Good shot of Kates costume during filming of Hawkeye behind the spoiler



Is that thing on her belt different arrowheads?

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Doctor Nutt posted:

Good lord if they can capture even a fraction of the "Hawkguy" vibe in this show it's going to be incredible.

I'm really hoping they can get that. Hopefully Renner is on board.

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Is that thing on her belt different arrowheads?

That was my guess.

I saw some people complaining that is not her costume, but I am pretty sure a body suit with hips cut out isn't practical for filming.

Rockstar Massacre
Mar 2, 2009

i only have a crazy life
because i make risky decisions
from a position of
unreasonable self-confidence
at the beginning of the third act of Endgame, right after Banner's snap brings us all back from oblivion, what tips Paul Rudd off that it worked was the presence of butterflies and ambient life.

it's easy to assume Thanos only snapped away sentient life because, well, we're parasites, but the implication there was that he meant 'half of all life' literally.

killing half of all humans is pretty horrifying but a hundred years later nobody would give a poo poo. killing half of all plankton would bring about the end of earth's history shortly after.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
in the meantime post your favourite spiky marvel characters


Lid fucked around with this message at 09:18 on Feb 24, 2021

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

Rockstar Massacre posted:

at the beginning of the third act of Endgame, right after Banner's snap brings us all back from oblivion, what tips Paul Rudd off that it worked was the presence of butterflies and ambient life.

it's easy to assume Thanos only snapped away sentient life because, well, we're parasites, but the implication there was that he meant 'half of all life' literally.

killing half of all humans is pretty horrifying but a hundred years later nobody would give a poo poo. killing half of all plankton would bring about the end of earth's history shortly after.

But the whales are doing better! Cap says so!

There's no way it can actually be wiping out half the biosphere. Maybe half of all higher order animals, like anything above insect level?

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
I think you can just assume Thanos thought to use it in a way that wouldn’t also cripple the ecosystem on every planet. Especially since his whole thing is doing this crazy poo poo so that the universe won’t starve and collapse from overpopulation like Titan. It’s like Bruce bringing everyone back safely and not midair or in the middle of the highway, not just bluntly reversing the Snap without a few tweaks.

VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

Transform
and
Freak Out



What if you died because the pilot of your aircraft disappeared and you didn't.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Oh you sly dog, you nearly got me monologuing about Liefeld

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Better than how I spent today reading about how its 2021 and Greg Land is still employed.

VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

Transform
and
Freak Out



Stryfe's cape is made of microfiber cloth for easy removal of fingerprints without leaving streaks or microabrasions.

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

VectorSigma posted:

What if you died because the pilot of your aircraft disappeared and you didn't.

If your pilot got Snapped mid-flight you best break out your [url=https://www.amazon.com/Worst-Case-Scenario-Survival-Handbook/dp/0811825558Worst Case Scenario Survival Guide[/url] and learn how to fly/land a plane pretty loving quick.

Basically, your plane will crash and you'll be bloodied ashes smeared across the landscape mixed with the bloodied ashes of your fellow passengers. The good news is that five years hence your pilot will reappear safely on the ground and probably not even notice that he's standing where your bloody ashes used to be.

Everyone fucked around with this message at 10:39 on Feb 24, 2021

Djarum
Apr 1, 2004

by vyelkin

Lid posted:

Better than how I spent today reading about how its 2021 and Greg Land is still employed.

I actually asked that question to a higher up at Marvel years ago off the record. Basically it is because he is evidently a really nice guy personally, his rate is REALLY low and he always comes in ahead of deadline. Granted the tracing stuff has always been a problem, especially the porn stuff which I guess he was warned to cease doing at a certain point. I guess him ripping off other artists for that Alien cover a few months ago caused some major problems since it is a bad look to rip off the people who you are reprinting and likely not paying again. I wonder if Marvel paid them off, since there wasn’t a lawsuit I assume that happened.

!Klams
Dec 25, 2005

Squid Squad

Open Source Idiom posted:

Yeah, it's not really a narrative event that bears scrutiny.

Mentally I've placed it in a box and I'm basically ignoring it. They'll play it for pathos once or twice, like this story is, or they'll handwave it but, lol, this is a cartoon world.

My headcannon is that when Hulk used 'the magic stones that can do literally anything' he didn't use them to 'bring everyone back and it be poo poo' but 'bring everyone be back and it all be fine and good'.

Likewise Thanos actually had 'good' intentions (From his perspective) that didn't involve loving over the survivors, so his snap also just neatly fixed any of the issues you can think of.

"Banner is smart but he's not smart enough to think of every eventuality though?" Yeah again, the stones can do LITERALLY ANYTHING so just have them think of the problems for you.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

!Klams posted:

My headcannon is that when Hulk used 'the magic stones that can do literally anything' he didn't use them to 'bring everyone back and it be poo poo' but 'bring everyone be back and it all be fine and good'.

Likewise Thanos actually had 'good' intentions (From his perspective) that didn't involve loving over the survivors, so his snap also just neatly fixed any of the issues you can think of.

"Banner is smart but he's not smart enough to think of every eventuality though?" Yeah again, the stones can do LITERALLY ANYTHING so just have them think of the problems for you.

Yeah they basically grant the wish that you actually wanted, and not the usual twisted monkey's-paw-style lovely "You should have thought more carefully before saying anything" wishes

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Djarum posted:

I actually asked that question to a higher up at Marvel years ago off the record. Basically it is because he is evidently a really nice guy personally, his rate is REALLY low and he always comes in ahead of deadline. Granted the tracing stuff has always been a problem, especially the porn stuff which I guess he was warned to cease doing at a certain point. I guess him ripping off other artists for that Alien cover a few months ago caused some major problems since it is a bad look to rip off the people who you are reprinting and likely not paying again. I wonder if Marvel paid them off, since there wasn’t a lawsuit I assume that happened.

The always meet deadlines argument was used for Chuck Austen, Jeph Loeb and Scott Buck too. Better to have a late project by a marginal artist than an on time one with a hack.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
It'd be kind of interesting if a villain in some future movie got snapped and then brought back and their reaction to that is either "haha, thanks Avengers, suckers!" or it somewhat drove their descent into villainy. As somebody suggested, maybe it'll be the explanation for (spoilers for Falcosoldier from the trailer)Zemo apparently being free and able to do whatever he wants to do.

Maybe that'll be Kang actually when they're building him up, like he's totally freaked out that he disappeared for a couple years cause he just happened to be in the present time when the snap happened and then got brought back with no input in the situation, something he's absolutely not used to as an all powerful time conqueror man. Then when he finds out it all got solved by dicking about with time he's even more pissed off, Thanos is gone but the Avengers are still around (kinda).

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

I've worked out the Bettany mystery cameo, it's going to be Jon Bernthal as The Punisher.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
It’s Steve Rogers running around, confused, with only two of the stones.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Yeah they basically grant the wish that you actually wanted, and not the usual twisted monkey's-paw-style lovely "You should have thought more carefully before saying anything" wishes

They basically are the Dragon Balls.

!Klams
Dec 25, 2005

Squid Squad

Alchenar posted:

I've worked out the Bettany mystery cameo, it's going to be Jon Bernthal as The Punisher.

My hot take on the Bettany mystery cameo is something spicier than even that. My prediction is that Disney have played an EXTREMELY long con to set up: Alan Rickman. Think about it, it would fit perfectly and be the biggest thing in TV, nay, entertainment history! (Or James Avery, or Robin Williams. ...Please? :()

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo
It's finally going to be the payoff to the Howard the Duck cameo at the end of Guardians

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



!Klams posted:

My hot take on the Bettany mystery cameo is something spicier than even that. My prediction is that Disney have played an EXTREMELY long con to set up: Alan Rickman. Think about it, it would fit perfectly and be the biggest thing in TV, nay, entertainment history! (Or James Avery, or Robin Williams. ...Please? :()

I hope so, otherwise Disney might have to go a full year without creating a CGI corpse puppet.

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!
The simpsons covered this: "anything is possible now that science invented magic"

Organic Lube User
Apr 15, 2005

Big Mean Jerk posted:

I think you can just assume Thanos thought to use it in a way that wouldn’t also cripple the ecosystem on every planet. Especially since his whole thing is doing this crazy poo poo so that the universe won’t starve and collapse from overpopulation like Titan. It’s like Bruce bringing everyone back safely and not midair or in the middle of the highway, not just bluntly reversing the Snap without a few tweaks.
But if it was half of all life across the board, how many survivors were suddenly cured of diseases as enough of an infection was snapped out of their bodies to allow their immune systems a chance (and then they die of some other aspect of societal collapse)?
Thanos killed half of all AIDS viruses.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know
I feelnits disinguine to say the Hilk brought back everyone safely but also Thanos's actions led to more than a 50% death rate. All the stones together confer omniscientents as well as omnipotence, so snapping out birds and bugs probably wasn't an issue. In fact it probably solved a lot of endangered species since the breeding pairs were survived

!Klams
Dec 25, 2005

Squid Squad

stev posted:

I hope so, otherwise Disney might have to go a full year without creating a CGI corpse puppet.

No no, it wouldn't be CGI, is what I'm saying...

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Yeah they basically grant the wish that you actually wanted, and not the usual twisted monkey's-paw-style lovely "You should have thought more carefully before saying anything" wishes

I prefer that Thanos ultimately hosed over the universe because that is the wish he actually wanted, whatever his dumbass stated goals. He was very clearly not a rational actor with self-actualized clarity of purpose, even if the movie made a lame attempt to bypass that criticism with the Soul Stone trial. All that proves is his monomaniacal desire to see his will done.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

twistedmentat posted:

I saw some people complaining that is not her costume, but I am pretty sure a body suit with hips cut out isn't practical for filming.

Diana Rigg pulled it off.

But seriously, it's a good costume that works for the character.

Unkempt
May 24, 2003

...perfect spiral, scientists are still figuring it out...

Lid posted:

in the meantime post your favourite spiky marvel characters



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Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

McSpanky posted:

I prefer that Thanos ultimately hosed over the universe because that is the wish he actually wanted, whatever his dumbass stated goals. He was very clearly not a rational actor with self-actualized clarity of purpose, even if the movie made a lame attempt to bypass that criticism with the Soul Stone trial. All that proves is his monomaniacal desire to see his will done.

Yes the point is that Thanos is mad. His plan is irrational but he is irrational and therefore it makes sense that it doesn't result in what he wants and nobody is grateful and he can't be reasoned with.

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