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PWG Keep The Pee Out of Our Pool! 3/27/04: Colt Cabana and Adam Pearce are feuding with a black guy, so they dressed like this:  --- "He put me in a hold he called the bling bling dream or some gay black stupid crap like that." - Adam Pearce, while doing an ebonics type promo with Colt Cabana --- "And Charles Murphy, he just looks like half a <r word for mentally challenged people> at this point" - Disco "I'd say he looks like a whole <r word for mentally challenged people>. Let's not mince words." - Excalibur "I'm slapping him like a <r word for mentally challenged people>." - Disco "because you know as you know <r word for mentally challenged people> people need encouragement." -Excalibur --- "You know who is the worst? The Puerto Ricans! They're terrible! And you know, almost as bad, the Irish. The Irish and the Puerto Ricans. You know if I had my way I would give them some little island off y'know far away from here and they could just go live there" - Excalibur "They are far away on their own little islands" - Disco "incredible" - Excalibur "Your dream has come true" - Disco "Wow, all I have to do is ask and it is done for me. I love it!" - Excalibur
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DJExile posted:christ, Excalibur really leaned hard into this poo poo didn't he Yeah, he's not ideological or serious*, but he's sure persistent. He's a really talented dude, even back then, but I'm wondering how long it took him to stop leaning on cheap humor like that. *Unlike, for instance, this bit from the Smackdown that I just started where they're trying to make it into a serious plotline: Smackdown 4/1/04: "Where the hell did you learn how to drive? Tijuana? Nuevo Laredo? We have laws here. You don't just drive however you want." - JBL "Lo Ciento Senor" - his driver "What did you just say?" -JBL <more Spanish> - his driver "This is America. Let me give you some free advice, ok. Learn the language. You speak English here. You don't speak Mexican. You don't speak Spanish. You don't speak Spanglish or whatever the hell you're speaking. You speak English. There are tons of opportunities here. You just have to work for 'em like I did. That's why I ride in the back. Heh Heh Heh. You'll be fine." - JBL "That's good advice. What a stock tip for the little Spanish guy" - Taz
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collocation posted:Yeah, he's not ideological or serious*, but he's sure persistent. He's a really talented dude, even back then, but I'm wondering how long it took him to stop leaning on cheap humor like that. My guess is that he pumped the brakes on that as PWG got bigger and the locker room got more diverse/expanded beyond the specific crew of guys who started it.
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Also from the 4/1/04 Smackdown: "Yo. Michael Cole got a new main squeeze. Taz they look to good together, but you know what before you all choke on each other, you can choke on Deez." - John Cena says regarding Rene Dupree and Michael Cole, right before he throws a pack of nuts at Rene's dog and beams the dog with them. --- "Hold on a second there, holmes" - Angle to Eddie --- "This isn't personal, my friend, amigo, it's just business." - JBL to Eddie --- "That's a thousand dollar hat, you drat Latino thief" - JBL
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Wait when did Renee Dupree have a dog also holy poo poo who was meant to be the big face on smackdown at that point? Wasn't cena still pretty much a heel? E: oh yeah he had that big white poodle didn't he
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DJExile posted:Wait when did Renee Dupree have a dog Yep, the white poodle. Cena had turned face around November. Dupree was supposed to be heel because he was from France.
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Jan 13, 2021 18:22
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Wasn't it a different dog each week?
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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:Wasn't it a different dog each week? There was some banter about that between the announcers. I couldn't tell. It looked the same to me. I was wondering if they made him take it on the road, like they did in the 80's with some pets.
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Jan 13, 2021 22:44
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It was a different dog every week - that's why it was white some weeks and black other weeks.
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Jan 13, 2021 22:57
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Edward Mass posted:It was a different dog every week - that's why it was white some weeks and black other weeks. Ah I think it's been white so far, unless I zoned out on an off week. It showed up on his last Raw, and he just got to SD.
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I was a big René Duprée mark in 2004, so I would know these things.
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Edward Mass posted:I was a big René Duprée mark in 2004, so I would know these things. I loved France during that time period as an anti-war French literature and food mark, but hated La Resistance and Dupree in a non kayfabe way. During my rewatch, I have come to appreciate and cheer for them.
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collocation posted:Yep, the white poodle. Cena had turned face around November. Dupree was supposed to be heel because he was from France. This would have been during the invasion and occupation of Iraq, and France were the big mean terror-loving terror-lovers who hated freedom because they called bullshit on said military action based on so-called evidence that calling it "flimsy" would have been giving it too much credit. Other countries like Germany and New Zealand were also like "haha, gently caress no" when Bush demanded the world join the Coalition of the Willing, as he called it, but it was France that the ARE 'MURRIKA FREEDOM TROOPS! crowd seemed to fixate on.
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Vagabundo posted:This would have been during the invasion and occupation of Iraq, and France were the big mean terror-loving terror-lovers who hated freedom because they called bullshit on said military action based on so-called evidence that calling it "flimsy" would have been giving it too much credit. I thought that Freedom Fries was the dumbest poo poo that I had ever heard. People were walking into French Restaurants that my friends worked at in LA and cursing them out, and some places were changing their advertising descriptions to "continental cuisine" in order to avoid backlash. Of course, poo poo is way dumber now.
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CZW IN DA CLUB 4/02/04: "Trent Acid yelling about gay partners. Where's your gay partner, Trent Acid? That's what I want to know. Where's your gay partner? He's the last guy who should be yelling about gay partners out there." - Eric G ---- "We're asking for a tag team partner to help us beat the poo poo out of that <unintelligible> Sonjay Dutt and beat the poo poo out of that fairy boot <f word for gay ending in OT> Jimmy Jacobs" - Robbie Marino
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collocation posted:PWG Taste The Radness 2/22/04: lmfao
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CZW Retribution 4/3/04: "WHAT'S HE DOING WITH A SISTER? WHATS HE DOING WITH A SISTER?" - Eric G as Robbie Marino of the recently formed BLKOUT flirts with a black woman in the crowd. --- "Look at Marino, he says hello to all the African American fans, but he ignores everyone else" - Eric G ---- "Two white guys beating the poo poo out of each other. That gets my dick hard." - Robbie Marino "You're a pervert. You know that? Watching two white guys do anything." - Eric G
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Raw 04/05/04: Eric Bischoff tells Regal that his nephew Eugene is "a very special talent" --- "You can't saddle me with that window licker." - Regal --- If I was going to post everything that was messed up about the Eugene angle, I'd have to transcribe 15 minute chunks of WWE since the whole thing is pretty messed up, so I will probably just go with lowlights.
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I don't think this qualifies as bigotry, one can be prejudice against whites, but anti-white racism/bigotry is not a real thing, as there has never been systemic oppression of white people due to their race.
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Eat My Fuc posted:I don't think this qualifies as bigotry, one can be prejudice against whites, but anti-white racism/bigotry is not a real thing, as there has never been systemic oppression of white people due to their race. Yeah, I knew that I was going to get this response but the nature of the storyline is rooted in bigotry because the implication is that bad people like Teddy Long are the only ones to see bigotry and complain about it. Whether the words coming out of the heel black character's mouth are correct or incorrect and whether they can or cannot be bigotry under whichever definition one opts to employ is ultimately moot because the storyline itself is propagating a bigoted narrative, and by having the black characters being the ones to actual go full out with slurs they are making it a both sides issue, which would inherently go against what you're saying above, and therefore be something erroneous regarding bigotry and it's construction. I covered this somewhat in my previous thread: collocation posted:They've laid off of it more recently, but I wrote about another trope that Vince loved regarding race earlier in my rewatch of the year: That said, in the previous thread's op I did say that I also included bigotry adjacent things also, which to my mind, would include attempts to make black characters appear bigoted, whether or not that bigotry can exist under one's own definition. collocation posted:I used to keep a thread elsewhere where I posted when I encountered bigotry and bigotry-adjacent type things while watching and/or rewatching WWE, TNA, CZW, MLW, PWG, and ROH. I'm not super into posting there anymore, so I thought that I would post them here instead. collocation fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Jan 16, 2021 |
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I've actually been skipping a bit of Teddy Long stuff for the reason that you suggested, despite my explanation quoted, just because I didn't want it to distract from any overall conversation, but this one seemed especially pertinent as it seemed to be an attempt to make it look like bigotry is something that is both employed by and used against white people in the aforementioned both sides manner, due to it taking place on the same episode as JBL's upping of the bullshit ante to a level not often seen. In essence, booking Long to say that at this moment seemed to potentially be about obfuscating the actual definition of who can and cannot be bigoted against who. Additionally, when they have the only characters who point out racism use slurs, they are indirectly impugning people who notice and point out bigotry in society by portraying them as hypocritical whining heels, which in itself a bigoted construct meant to propagate the notion of reverse racism, which is ultimately a canard used to mask, obscure, and justify actual racism. I appreciate you giving me a chance to expand upon the topic.
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Smackdown 4/15/04: "There are a few fans out there that admire Eddie's criminal traits. A very small vocal minority. We as proud law abiding Americans must silence this vocal minority." - narrator of JBL political ad interrupting Eddie's promo --- "Hell, you might as well be in one of those genuine intergender matches" - Jamie Noble, referring to Rico Vs Haas --- "Whatever you do huh, don't let Rico get you from behind" - Jamie Noble --- "Well you know Charlie Haas, always a bit paranoid, perhaps he has a reason to be in this match" - Michael Cole --- "AHHH AHH YOU SICK FREAK YOU SICK AHHH AHHH AHH" - Charlie Haas to Rico --- "I like this guy Rico" - Michael Cole "I'm sure you do, Cole." - Taz "No I mean his actions" - Cole --- "I've never faced anybody like Rico in my career and that's a good thing." - Taz --- "YOU SICK FREAK ARE YOU KIDDING ME" - Charlie Haas --- "IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT TO CHEER FOR?" - Charlie Haas --- Rico kisses Haas without his consent "Charlie you just got kissed by Rico" - Michael Cole Haas rinses his mouth out and is then counted out. Charlie pukes
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collocation posted:Rico kisses Haas without his consent lmfao
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For you young'uns who are rightfully put off and likely also confused by all of this: Yes, gay "jokes" were seen as the pinnacle of edgy comedy in the early-mid 2000s.
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DJExile posted:For you young'uns who are rightfully put off and likely also confused by all of this: Yes, gay "jokes" were seen as the pinnacle of edgy comedy in the early-mid 2000s. Yeah, like mainstream comedy still ran with Gay panic jokes well into the 2000s. It really didn't turn around until the latter part of the decade.
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DJExile posted:For you young'uns who are rightfully put off and likely also confused by all of this: Yes, gay "jokes" were seen as the pinnacle of edgy comedy in the early-mid 2000s. I wouldn't even say "edgy". Thats just how people talked back then.
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Glad to see that I'm justified once again in stopping watching wrestling regularly when JBL became part of the main event scene. He won the Eddie feud. HE WON THE EDDIE FEUD.
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little munchkin posted:I wouldn't even say "edgy". Thats just how people talked back then. Yeah, calling gay jokes 'edgy' is giving the people saying them a lot more credit than they deserve. Homophobia was just really cool.
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DeathChicken posted:He won the Eddie feud and Eddie almost legit died on an incredibly ill advised blade job e: Not the thread I thought it was so I will add that JBL is a piece of poo poo.
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HOTLANTA MAN posted:What is the end goal of this thread Did you know that you could go to the start of the thread? If you do that, and this is where it gets wild, you'll see that this is the second version of this thread. And in case you find it a little bit difficult to do so, you can click on a link that the OP has put. And this gets really, really superduper crazy. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3945056 When you click this link, it takes you to the 2003 version of this thread, where the collocation outlines why he's doing these threads. Alternatively, you can gently caress off with your asinine threadshitting because who the gently caress are you to demand anyone justify themselves to you.
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Vagabundo posted:Did you know that you could go to the start of the thread? lmfao what in tarnation
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Vagabundo posted:Did you know that you could go to the start of the thread? You could have just copy and pasted what he said in your link instead of this epic monologue
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random psychos encountered while reading the random bigotry encountered while rewatching - 04 edition thread
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