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jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!


Dinosaur Gum

Casimir Radon posted:

My only real complaint about the High Republic so far is how thickly they lay on ďWe are all the RepublicĒ. This is the least screwed up the galaxy has ever been in a story, at least on the surface, but they overdid it a bit knocking the point home.

Keep in mind that the entire HR story ins a three act structure. I think the cracks will start to show as we move into Phase 2

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Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine.





When's the second (non-YA) High Republic novel due out, anyway?

Humerus
Jul 7, 2009

Rule of acquisition #111:
Treat people in your debt like family...exploit them.




Drone posted:

When's the second (non-YA) High Republic novel due out, anyway?

June 29th: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0593159411/

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ad84BMo_gQ

I never realized there was comms chatter from the Republic Commando game that referenced Omega Squad's operation on Qiilura from Hard Contact.

Arcsquad12 fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Apr 16, 2021

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008



Huh, I had no idea about that either. Funny the little things that pop up like that.

On kind of a similar note I've been rewatching the original Clone Wars series since it's on Disney Plus now and I'd forgotten how many EU things are in that. Mon Calamari obviously but I had forgotten that Ilum and Muunilinst were prior EU inventions too, and even its depiction of Dantooine is pretty in-line with its earlier EU imaging.

Also kind of funny to see Ilum knowing it becomes Starkiller Base, or that the first General Grievous episode is set around a crashed star destroyer on a desert planet. And even just in general a ton of stuff that the 3D Clone Wars clearly used as a basis for their own episodes.

Actually outside of the Star Wars links I'd also say the last season of Samurai Jack feels like it drew from some of the Clone Wars action scenes, too.

Arbite
Nov 4, 2009







Chairman Capone posted:

Huh, I had no idea about that either. Funny the little things that pop up like that.

On kind of a similar note I've been rewatching the original Clone Wars series since it's on Disney Plus now and I'd forgotten how many EU things are in that. Mon Calamari obviously but I had forgotten that Ilum and Muunilinst were prior EU inventions too, and even its depiction of Dantooine is pretty in-line with its earlier EU imaging.

Also kind of funny to see Ilum knowing it becomes Starkiller Base, or that the first General Grievous episode is set around a crashed star destroyer on a desert planet. And even just in general a ton of stuff that the 3D Clone Wars clearly used as a basis for their own episodes.

Actually outside of the Star Wars links I'd also say the last season of Samurai Jack feels like it drew from some of the Clone Wars action scenes, too.

The tension and palpable (hah) menace that show had for its final three episodes were a real achievement. The change in tone and quality from the first episodes is amazing.

Arbite fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Apr 15, 2021

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!


Dinosaur Gum

They keep trying to make a younger kids show. realizing that people are getting really deep into it, turning up the stakes, and then starting the cycle over with the next show. I would have loved to see further seasons of Resistance just see where they'd take that one

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008



I think Resistance was flawed from the foundation given it's a show called Resistance where the Resistance never really appears or plays a major part. It clearly started out as two ideas blended together (more lighthearted space racers and a sequel tie-in show) and the best episodes of Resistance were the ones where they leaned fully into only one of those premises.

If they had really been brave they should have made it a prequel-era podracing show. I mean hell they could have just replaced First Order with Separatists and it wouldn't have really made any major difference.

Casimir Radon
Aug 1, 2008



Iíve never watched an episode. It looked like such a visual downgrade from TCW or Rebels, and aimed much more at kids. Now after the Sequel Trilogy has concluded I canít really be made to care about poo poo thatís very tied into it.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008



You're really not missing much. And with the exception of like one character storyline, most of the sequel tie-in stuff is so superficial it ends up not feeling like the tie-in elements are important at all. Like, BB-8 is a main character, and Phasma and Hux and Poe show up a few times, but they could be Generic Characters and nothing would really change. And then in the second season, when they're ostensibly fighting the First Order, the connections are basically them going to a system and finding out, whoops, the Resistance was just here, looks like we missed them by five minutes!

The two sequel-related things in Resistance I did really like were the main characters watching the broadcast of Hux's speech when he fires the Starkiller laser, and them finding the remains of a solar system whose sun had been absorbed by Starkiller with the frozen civilization ruins on one of the planets.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Casimir Radon posted:

Iíve never watched an episode. It looked like such a visual downgrade from TCW or Rebels, and aimed much more at kids. Now after the Sequel Trilogy has concluded I canít really be made to care about poo poo thatís very tied into it.

It's not good. You're fine not watching it. Like, there's a couple of decent episodes, but really, you're fine. It's mostly just, "Random hijinks set during the sequel trilogy era, a couple times we reference the events of the sequel trilogy", and those random hijinks are so loving silly and stupid.

It's not a Filoni show, and it shows. Clone Wars and Rebels are kid's shows that rise above their genre. Resistance is a kid's show that...doesn't do that.

thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Apr 16, 2021

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008



thrawn527 posted:

It's not a Filoni show, and it shows. Clone Wars and Rebels are kid's shows that rise above their genre. Resistance is a kid's show that...doesn't do that.

It's funny, Filoni was an executive producer on the show and I remember before it debuted, people pointing out that EPs don't really have a lot to do with projects were getting attacked online by Filoni fans convinced this was going to be Rebels 2 and that anyone who thought Filoni wasn't going to be involved were just angry because of TLJ and trying to sabotage Star Wars. Then the show came out and those voices somehow went away....

(Though whenever Resistance comes up online I do still see people claim it wasn't successful only because anti-Disney fans or gamergaters or whatever, which... lol. It's okay to admit that sometimes the Brand is not 100%)

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!


Dinosaur Gum

I'll dissent and say that Resistance is still fun and worth watching (especially if you've got kids or younger siblings), but it definitely is and remains a kids show for both its seasons.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady


It was okay, but it had the chance to mature at the end of season one and didn't. I feel like this take is pretty much spot on.

Chairman Capone posted:

I think Resistance was flawed from the foundation given it's a show called Resistance where the Resistance never really appears or plays a major part. It clearly started out as two ideas blended together (more lighthearted space racers and a sequel tie-in show) and the best episodes of Resistance were the ones where they leaned fully into only one of those premises.

If they had really been brave they should have made it a prequel-era podracing show. I mean hell they could have just replaced First Order with Separatists and it wouldn't have really made any major difference.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks


If Disney had some courage, they could declare that podracing is no longer canon.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008



The best thing to come out of the prequels were the episode I podracing games. Which are now non-canon. So in a way they have.

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



Kemper Boyd posted:

If Disney had some courage, they could declare that podracing is no longer canon.
Whoa hey let's not say things we can't take back.

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


If Podracing was noncanon we wouldn't have gotten Darth Vader using the Force to ruin Luke's Podrace record so that Anakin wouldn't be topped as best human racer.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Arcsquad12 posted:

If Podracing was noncanon we wouldn't have gotten Darth Vader using the Force to ruin Luke's Podrace record so that Anakin wouldn't be topped as best human racer.

I obviously missed something.

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


thrawn527 posted:

I obviously missed something.


thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe


Well this is very silly.

Humerus
Jul 7, 2009

Rule of acquisition #111:
Treat people in your debt like family...exploit them.





This kind of petty poo poo is exactly what Anakin would do so this tracks.

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Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


thrawn527 posted:

It's not a Filoni show, and it shows. Clone Wars and Rebels are kid's shows that rise above their genre. Resistance is a kid's show that...doesn't do that.

I still find TCW inconsistent, but more in the way most TV shows that run for a while before finding their footing are inconsistent. Resistance never found its footing because it was made in the midst of Disney's "we have no goddamn idea what we are doing" phase. TCW at least hit a chord eventually.

TCW was a show that had its vision change as it progressed and it struggled to strike a balance, but when it hit its marks it really hits its marks. The biggest issue with the show in my mind is the dialogue. It reminds me a lot of Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles where the show has trouble deciding if it wants to use more straightforward performances and dialogue versus simplifying things and goofing it up for a younger audience. Like Roughnecks, it gets better when it leans into things without dumbing them down in a way that is patronizing to kids. Kids are smart, they can handle themes and context without needing to talk down to them or wear a clown mask. Rotta Stinky The Hutt was not a good idea and he got punted quick.

Resistance never even bothered to go beyond the nadir of children's entertainment where loud noises and exaggerated enthusiasm were the norm. It's like watching Teen Titans GO! without actually being funny.

Filoni has also improved drastically over the years. His work on Mando has a much stronger grasp on making universal entertainment rather than targeting individual groups. I'm still eh on some of his dialogue and plotline choices, but it's a far cry from the Blue Shadow Virus or Korkie and the Poisoned Tea plot.

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