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TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009


Escape from Tarkov is the vodka and cocaine fueled brainchild of BattleState Games' Nikita Buyanov. Set in the fictional Norvinsk region located on the frontier between Russia and Europe, the metropolis of Tarkov was plunged into anarchy thanks to the Contract Wars. What was once a bustling city, is now roamed by rivalling scavenger gangs, former private military forces, and black ops units. Between them all, there's you, your stash, and the escape back to the free world from the depths of Tarkov.

Escape from Tarkov is a "hardcore" first person shooter with some of the best gunplay on the market. Fortunately or unfortunately, the gameplay is also surrounded by a bunch of particular choices in game development that some people hate, and some people love. Tarkov is a brutally punishing game with an almost vertical learning curve - and :siren: :siren: before we get any further - you should join the Discord and play with Goons. :siren: :siren: The discord is filled with goons who have played this ramshackle game for thousands of hours, so try not to be a goon-in-a-well and ignore the helpful advice you'll find there.

The game is currently in Beta, and there are several "editions" available to purchase on their website:
- Standard Edition: $44.99 USD - The base edition gets you access to the game - If you're starting for the first time, buy this, and if you're still enjoying it a few months later, you can upgrade during one of the sales they run from time to time.
- Left Behind Edition: $74.99 USD - Your Stash begins at Level 2, so you have more room to hoard guns & other junk.
- Prepare for Escape Edition: $99.99 USD - Level 3 Stash, and increased Reputation with the in game Traders.
- Edge of Darkness Edition: $139.99 USD - The Bad with Money edition includes a fully upgraded Level 4 Stash, increased Reputation with in game traders, a fancy Crown next to your name (which appears in gold), and a Larger Gamma Secure Container (more on that later). They also list "Free access to all subsequent DLCs (Season Pass)" though with the way development on this game goes, we're not 100% sure just what that means.

In Tarkov, there are two types of Raids available to you:
- As a PMC, you will load up your character with some Equipment and load into a fresh Raid, along with an assortment of other PMCs across the map, and you will need to move to the opposite end of the map to one of a few Extracts to get out with whatever loot you find. On your PMC, your progression and exp is tracked during and after the raid - you can gain points in various skills that make your PMC more effective, carry more gear, run faster, jump higher, etc.
- As a Scav, you will load into the middle of a Raid that is already running, with a randomly generated set of gear. Initially, theres about a 30 minute cooldown to these runs, but with some hideout upgrades that cooldown can be lowered later on. When you're playing as a Scav, the AI Scavs already in the Raid will be friendly to you, unless you shoot one of them. If you do, the Scavs in the immediate area will become hostile to you. Scavs generally have access to fewer active extracts, with some exclusive to scavs, and some shared with PMCs.

Either way, if you die in Tarkov, your current gear is left on your body and can be freely looted by Enemy PMCs and Scavs.

The core gameplay loop consists of loading up on your PMC, dropping into a raid, killing and looting, and extracting. You can play in some pretty varied ways; running full speed towards the first gunfire you hear, or hiding out and sneaking around while hoovering up loot scattered across the map, along with a whole spectrum of in-between. The game has come a long way from where it was all the way back in Alpha, the Maps are varied and allow for you to choose to some degree what kind of raid you'd like to have.

There are currently Seven Maps available at this time:
Customs :hist101:

-- One of the larger maps in the game after its recent expansion, Customs is separated by a River on the East end, and contains several high loot areas. Dorms used to be the sole location of great loot on the map, but after the expansion, the new area is chock full of high end loot, and the added space removes some of the troublesome bottlenecking that occurred as you traversed the map. Reshala and the Zavodskys are the Boss of this map, and can be found at Dorms, New Gas, Fortress, or below the Cliffs.

Woods :golgo:

Dr. Clockwork posted:

Ok, see the thing about the videogame Escape from Tarkov, a game produced by BattleState Games is that it requires you To Be Good at the game in order to get anything done. And in this essay I'll tell you about how the best way to Get Good at this little videogame we call Escape from Tarkov is to learn how to earn income passively. By far the best way to earn income, both actively and passively, is to first start off running the best map in the game: Woods. Specifically, Woods at night time. Both due to the increased concealment it provides (being dark) and also being completely loving cool and awesome and really dope because you can roleplay as your favorite low speed-high-drag operator. Because it's dark and also in the woods. There are a large number of stashes on woods and it would behoove you to learn ALL of them, mostly because Woods is the best map and also all other maps are DOGSHIT so if you're struggling in this game it is probably because you haven't touched enough stashes in Woods. Stashes, they are a container in this game and they can contain a great number of things, many of them valuable (think like pirate BOOTY and doubloons and things) which can help get you good at Escape from Tarkov, mostly because looting doubloons allows you to have greater purchasing power because these things are valuable and as a result allow you to access better weapons and equipment to give your Private Military Contractor (PMC) a greater capacity at killing. At this point you should have probably stopped reading because this is, in fact, a joke. Well not completely a joke because playing the map Woods, at night, is not only great but also gives you extremely acute sexual prowess and will impress not only your romantic partners, but also other Alpha Males you may encounter in day to day life. Get good and go to Woods. At night. Because all other maps are DOGSHIT.

Reserve :orks101:
-- The Military base used to be the King of maps for loot, and in some ways it still is. There are a handful of items that exclusively spawn here, along with some extract power switches that can spawn Raiders (juiced up Scavs that are more aggressive and dangerous), and a ton of valuable ammo and weapon mod spawns all around. They recently added a connected network of tunnels below the Pawn/Bishop/King buildings, along with another extract below which has added a lot of space to the map. Glukhar and his SIX friends are the Boss of this map, and they can usually be found in either Knight building, Rook, Ks, or the Bishop/Pawn buildings.

Interchange :10bux:

-- The ULTRA Mall (modeled after a pair of real life malls in St Petersburg) is a large map with three levels, and three main stores that make up the edges of the mall. They recently added a few new extracts, along with a Power Switch that allows you to loot a couple very valuable stores inside the mall. Notably, Interchange at Night is much more lit up inside the mall than people expect, and has the added bonus of scavs having less vision distance in identifying you. This is doubly important for Killa, the tracksuit wearing Boss of Interchange. Killa is one of the most aggressive enemies in the game, and is well known for face tapping PMCs while he powerslides around the corner. He's found in and around Brutal, Mantis, Adik, Viking, and National, mostly in the middle of the mall proper.

Shoreline :drugnerd:

-- Home of the Azure Coast health resort, Shoreline is the largest map we've had so far. Most of the map is rolling hills and scattered buildings and trees. It's by far my favorite map of the game, with lots of space to reposition and retreat in a fight. Shoreline isn't everyone's cup of tea though, as there is also the aforementioned Resort area, home to three stories of goon 5 stack nightmares. Sanitar recently arrived as the Shoreline boss, he usually has some very nice Stimulants on him and his pair of armed guards. Sanitar can sometimes heal through all kinds of damage when youre fighting him, so be careful. He's found at the Pier, Resort, or Cottages area.

Factory :black101:

-- The first map made, Factory is tight quarters madness. 5-6 PMCs spawn in, and theres not much room to move about. Its rapid fire, quick action, so some people love it, but the gameplay in factory varies so much from regular tarkov gameplay that you might find yourself having trouble here or elsewhere depending on how you play.

The Lab :science:

-- Labs is the High End map, requiring a Labs Keycard to get in. Labs is a small footprint overall, but stacked three levels high, and featuring some of the most intense gameplay you'll find in Tarkov. There are no scavs here, only Raiders, and the extracts available usually have a few extra hoops to jump through to activate.
The other thing about Labs is that there's NO INSURANCE. So if you lose loot inside labs, its not coming back. Labs is notoriously Hacker Central, although at least recently late last wipe, they were a bit fewer and farther between than before.

The biggest thing happening right now, is that :siren: on December 24th, BSG is releasing 12.9, and doing a full wipe along with it. :siren: That means everyone starts back at Level 1, all our hoarded guns and junk are gone, and there's no better time to hop in. Early wipe is a totally different experience than mid/late wipe, so if you've been struggling in the past month, join us in the discord and struggle together.

:siren: :siren: :siren: AMMUNITION :siren: :siren: :siren:
Ammo is the single most important gear in all of Tarkov. The first week or so, just about anything works, but as soon as people start wearing half decent gear, bad ammo will get you killed more often than not. There are more bad bullets in tarkov than there are good ones, so as a starting point, here are some baselines for the most common rounds:
--Cheap, Okay Ammo--
5.45x9: BT (T), BP, PP
5.56x45: M855 (not really), M856A1 (T)
7.62x39: PS
7.62x51: M80
7.62x54R: LpsGzh
9x18: PBM/PMM
9x19: PstGzh, GT (T)
4.6x30: FMJ SX
9x21: SP10
9x39: SP-5, SP-6
12x70: 7mm buckshot, 8.5 magnum buckshot
5.7x28: SB193

--Actually Good Ammo--
5.45x9: BS, 7N39
5.56x45: M855A1, M995
7.62x39: BP
7.62x51: M62 (T), M61
7.62x54R: SNB, 7N1, 7N37
9x19: AP 6.3, 7N31
4.6x30:AP SX
12x70: Ap-20
9x21: SP13
9x39: SPP, 7N12 BP
5.7x28: SS190

Some ammo is marked as a Tracer (T) above, and that does carry some obvious downsides, giving your position away to other players in the raid. Theres a :siren: Helpful Ammo Chart :siren: that shows all the in depth numbers for flesh damage and penetration. If a round doesnt show up on my lists above, its probably not worth running. Some ammo on the chart linked just above has high flesh damage but almost no penetration. That kind of ammo can be used, but you need to be either hitting them in the face (not always so easy), or shooting their legs. Shooting at center mass can be a hard habit to break, so if your brain constantly has you aiming at heads and chests, you want to be shooting good ammo.

ARMOR
In Tarkov, running around with no protection can be a viable strategy if you have the good fortune to see your enemies first and hit your shots. Unfortunately, you won't always be that lucky. Wearing armor will allow you to take some hits without your PMC or Scav keeling over at the first 85 damage taken to your Thorax. There are two sources of armor in the game; Armor Vests, which go in the appropriately named armor slot on your character, or Armored Rigs, which are equipped in your tactical rig slot, and provide storage as well as protection. The amount of protection offered differs from Class 1 (effective against only the worst ammo), to Class 6 (effective against all but the best armor). Some armor will only provide protection to your thorax area, while some will protect your stomach and or arms as well. Along with the differing classes and areas of protection, armor also varies in material, which affects how quickly the armor takes damage and How efficiently the armor can be repaired.

Helmets also have the same classes of armor protection, and also have varying areas of protection. Some will cover your ears and the nape of your neck, and several helmets have an option for a faceshield that can be flipped down to protect you from shots to your face and some of them will obscure your vision while flipped down. Some of the helmets will also restrict your ability to wear Headphones as well.


Here is a helpful chart (short of the most recently added Class 6 Armor) that shows the differing classes of armor, as long as their Effective Durability listed as well, factoring in all the traits discussed above. Higher numbers of Effective durability usually mean that you can continue to use a piece of armor over multiple raids.

As a general rule, Wearing less than Class 4 will get you into trouble after the first bit of the wipe, but some of the cheaper stuff will be suitable enough to take care of most scav ammuntion. Class 5 and 6 will be much better against mid and late wipe PMCs, but some of the best ammo in the game will still cut through it. There are numerous more detailed videos exploring the number of hits certain ammo would take to get all the way through the Armor.

The most affordable and effective Armor for early to mid wipe is the 6B3TM Armored Rig. It's space neutral, but repairs relatively well and only costs ~50k roubles from Ragman at Loyalty 2. The same can be said for the SSh-68 helmet, costing ~21k and available from Ragman at Loyalty 1. It sports the highest ricochet chance in the game, even though only being class 3. We've definitely had raids where top tier ammo has bounced off an SSh-68.

Health, Damage, and Medicine
Now that we have covered Ammo and Armor, the two most important aspects of Tarkov, lets take a look at how to keep yourself healthy, and just what happens when you get shot.

Your body is seperated into several zones of Damage with varying levels of HP; Head (35), Thorax (85), Stomach (70), R & L Arms (60), R & L Legs (65). Reducing one of these zones to 0 HP will "blackout" the zone. If your legs get zeroed, you will move much slower and take occasional damage while moving. If your Arms get zeroed, your aim will have increased sway and you will lose arm stamina more rapidly while aiming down sights. Reducing your stomach to zero will cause you to cough and also rapidly lose hydration and energy. Reducing your head or thorax to zero will kill your PMC instantly, with one exception - If bleeding damage drops either of these two zones to zero you wont instantly keel over, but any damage after that point will kill you (including damage from the same bleed if left untreated). For all zones besides the Head and Thorax, if they get down to zero, you can use a Surgery Kit, either a CMS or Surv12, to set the zone to 1hp at the cost of reducing the maximum hp value of that zone for the rest of the raid. There is also a small chance when taking damage to a blacked zone where you can instantly die - this is a small chance, but we had a goon die to this factor in a raid just this week.

Bleeds come in two varieties, Light and Heavy. Both will cause a ticking damage over time across all your damage zones until you can fix the bleed by using some kind of meds. Light bleeds can be fixed by a bandage or almost all of the medkits available, at a fixed cost of the medkit used, which varies for each of the different medkits. Heavy Bleeds are much more lethal, and one going unattended will kill you faster than you'd think. Heavies can only be fixed by an Esmarch Tourniquet, CALOK-B Hemostatic, Salewa or Grizzly medkit. You'll want to bring along something to fix a Heavy Bleed on every PMC raid, if only because the cost to heal a heavy bleed from a Salewa is 150 points of use. If you dont bring along something to fix those heavy bleeds on its own, you'll be hurting for healing later on in the raid if things go only a little awry.

Your limbs can also end up fractured, and fixing those will need a Splint, or a use of the Grizzly. Splints come in two varieties, the standard ones are single use, while the Aluminum variant allows for 5 uses. A fractured Arm will give you a pain effect in your vision, as well as a tremor effect on your aim, while a fractured leg will slow you down and cause you to take damage while moving.

You can circumvent some of those effects by taking one of the various Painkillers in the game. All of them have a limited duration and some kind of penalties, usually a reduction in your hydration levels after they are taken, some will give you tremors or tunnel vision after the painkillers wear off. The more expensive and potent painkillers have longer durations and less downsides. The base Analgin Painkillers will work for a bit, but their increased hydration penalties this wipe make using them a bit more risky than normal. You can also pre-pop some painkillers before doing something risky like crossing a big open field or pushing an enemy, but be wary of your hydration because those penalties add up quickly.

There are also several :goshawk: that are injectable. These are quick use and have a variety of effects, some will increase your stamina and endurance, some will heal over time. The most notable of these, and the king of all injectables, is Propitol. Propitol not only works as a painkiller, but also gives you a slowly ticking Heal that will help top up all your limbs if you do get hit in a fire fight. You can pop a propitol after using a surgery kit on a limb to start to heal up the area while you fix another problem. SJ1 and SJ6 will increase your stamina regeneration and strength, and are usually used for two situations: either for getting out with a whole bunch of loot, or getting somewhere quickly by keeping your stamina topped up and allowing you to run further without tiring out. This is most important for high value loot areas, like Dorms on Customs, or the Tech stores on Interchange.

TheTofuShop fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Aug 1, 2022

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TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

**Second Post reserved for Goon TKs and Mechanics details**

Neon Belly
Feb 12, 2008

I need something stronger.

If we are going to be keeping track of TKs we’ll need more reserved posts.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
hell yeah a new tarkov thread made by an actual tarkov goon instead of that person from the other one

Here is the Discord that all the 100s of goons are on to play with it is buried hidden in the OP hard to find >>>

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edit this new link should never expire ^^^

hakimashou fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Dec 26, 2020

unpurposed
Apr 22, 2008
:dukedog:

Fun Shoe
Been on the fence about picking up this game for a long time, going to do it now thanks to the incoming wipe!

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

hakimashou posted:

hell yeah a new tarkov thread made by an actual tarkov goon instead of that person from the other one

im a goon and i play a lot of tarkov

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
There are so many new people now and probably going to be even more than I figured I would go back to the good thread and dig up some effort posts.

Here is the one about how to get money, where information has changed since the original post I have added commentary in italics.

The absolute gold standard way to 'get money' is to rush tech stores/spawns in Interchange.

Why? because they are rich sources of these items:
graphics cards (270k), 135k/slot,
tetrises (115k), 67k/slot (WORTH MORE NOW)
golden gphones (40k) /slot (WORTH LESS NOW)
nixxor lenses (30k)/slot

Graphics cards are especially important because you put them in your butt coin machine to make butt coins, and once you do that you have infinite money for the whole wipe forever. An added virtue of them is that they don't need to receive an enchantment to be put into the machine, so you can butt hole them and then die and you don't lose anything.

Also NOTE the lighting is different in the map now than when I took all these screen shots



With a little practice and a basic familiarity with the map, its very easy to do and very time efficient. You're also likely to run into some hatchlings to get PMC kills for quests.

The first step toward orienting yourself on interchange is to figure out which region you spawned in.

Interchange's two major landmarks are IDEA and OLI. IDEA is on the same side of the map as the RAILROAD EXFIL and POWER STATION. OLI is on the same side of the map as EMERCOM EXFIL.

There are four major spawn regions for interchange:

Front-IDEA (aka, Railroad Exfil)
Back-IDEA (aka, Power Station)
Front-OLI
Back-OLI (aka Emercom Exfil).

There are also other spawns half way between these, such as front-middle, back-middle, side-IDEA. If you spawn there just run toward one of the main spawn regions first, then continue as normal. As for me, from the side of OLI i like to go in the front, and from the side of IDEA the back/power station. Back-middle the simplest is to go to power station.

I have prepared a slideshow highlighting the optimal tech loot run paths to take from each of these four spawns.

The targets in any raid will be Techlight, TEXHO, Rasmussen, TTS, and German. If you spawn behind IDEA you can do the power station and the IDEA office/stockroom as well.

To start with, we'll go with the luckiest spawn: Front of OLI

NOTE this isn't actually the luckiest spawn, the luckiest spawn is right off to the side where you can shoot straight into the garage from the side. That spawn guarantees you will be the first one to techlight and it matters more now because the MEDICAL ROOM is up there across from techlight, and people will rush the Medical Room, especially if the power has been turned on. To see if the power has been turned on from anywhere on the map press the 'show exits' thing and if the thing about the door is lit up green, the power is on. This only works if the power has been activated while you were in the raid. If you get late spawned and the power was turned on before you spawned, this indicator won't work.

------At any rate this guide assumes you aren't bringing anything you care at all about losing, like you're bringing a pistol or some garbage that is worthless, and you aren't planning on winning any fights, you're just gonna go grab loot and get money. So speed is of the essence and you want to get to these places as fast as you can. If you die you just want to grab some more super cheap poo poo like another pistol or whatever and do it again as fast as you can. This lets you get money fast to spend on gear to do other stuff. And once you start filling your butt coin making machine up you get infinite money.


You dont want to break glass going through the OLI main entrance, or get stuck trying to glitch jump over the sandbag wall, so you go into the garage to the right of the main entrance first.





Once inside you go over to the stairs and go up





Run by here, if scavs shoot at you keep running, try to get behind something to break line of sight. Don't stop!



You made it! Now decisions: upstairs to Techlight or plod around in TEXHO. Go up to Techlight first.





This store has the most tech spawns. Tech items spawn all over it everywhere, all the shelves, everywhere. Grab them up! You're rich.

Once you're done, time to go back down the escalator



At the bottom to the left is TEXHO. It's OK. It has a wooden floor which gives you away. Loot it up and keep moving, deeper toward the interior of the mall, away from OLI.

Next stop Rasmussen. It has a wood floor and many tech spawns along the walls and on the counters in the middle.



See that shiny graphics card!!! (GRAPHICS CARDS NO LONGER STAND UP VERTICALLY THEY LAY DOWN FLAT BUT THEY ARE STILL REAL SHINY)



If you want to live dangerously from here, just keep on going, go behind the APC store, around the back, and across the middle and hit German and TTS You've already hit 3 tech stores though, so you're probably good.

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hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
Interchange guide (2/2)

Back of OLI aka Emercom Exfil.

It is probably the worst place to spawn. But dont just disconnect, you might get lucky!

To start with you want to make your way up the ramp, crossing your fingers and hoping that a scav doesnt shoot you.



Once at the top, jump up on the poo poo to go in the first loading dock



Make your way deeper in, through the back of oli into the main area, and then hook a right.







Stick to the right side and rush up there. You'll end up right where you did from the last spawn, with easy access to Techlight, TEXHO and Rasmussen

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
Next up: Front of IDEA

Similarly with Front of OLI, you dont want to go directly in the main entrance. With IDEA, you want to enter the garage doors to the right of the main entrance, and continue going right. The aim isn't to get into IDEA itself, but the mall next to it.



Once you get in the garage go right, and go around the corner through the glass doors. Keep going until you see the escalator on your left and go up it.





Once you get to the top of the escalator take a right, and go past Trend into the mall





The first store you want to loot is TTS, which is on your left. You can get into it directly by hopping/crouching on these boxes. Or you can go all the way around, it doesnt matter.





Once you're inside, check the shelves and the counters for valuable tech items.

Once you've done that, continue to German.



Its to the right of Voyage, and has a wood floor.



Valuable items spawn along the walls and on the pedestals in the middle.




From here you can cross the middle and try to get Rasmussen, TEXHO and techlight if you want. Or just die in a hail of bullets to Killa. If you've got an Emercom Medical Unit Key, you can go inside and sometimes find a graphics card in there, in the middle.


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hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
Finally (3/3) Back IDEA aka Power Station

This is actually a great place to spawn.

The power station itself contains an office with several tech spawns, and it is pole position for hitting the IKEA office/storerooms as well.

ADDENDUM: This guide was produced before they put the power switch and stuff in, and it's worth noting that if you spawn right here and go in and loot the power station and don't hit the switch to turn on the power, you're a lowlife sleazebucket. Like people will say a bunch of words about it and the thoughts in their heads about it or whatever stupid poo poo, but trash is trash and you don't want to be one of those people.

Also want to note that because the power switch is here, you don't want to spend any time at all here if you spawn in, since people will come straight here. It is not a safe place to be. You just want to zoom in, check the spawn, hit the switch and book it.

Go in, go left, loot office.







There are several jackets hung up which can spawn valuable keys, if you want to loot them.

Once you're done, go out and go up the back ramp of IDEA



Hook around to the right and go through the doors, then another right into the back of the main area





Once you're in, push forward past the green light to the back door of the storeroom.



Loot the shelves along the aisle that lines up with the next door



Move forward and attend to all the marked spots. The arrow points to the keyboard of a computer in the cuble facing away from you there.



I dont recommend searching the inside of the computer boxes for graphics cards, it takes forever and you wont find any.

Once you're done, head out, take a left, and make a bee line behind the registers until you see Trend and the mall, then proceed as usual.



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hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
How to Do the New Wipe by hakimashou


In the past, it was very important to rush quests and levelling up as fast as possible early in the wipe, so that you could be one of the first people to get access to high level vendors and be able to buy and resell parts for gunsmith quests and good armors and bullets and other things people wanted. Getting to lv 40 in the first week or two meant you'd get a starting nut of 10s of millions of roubles just from that, and you'd be set for money for the rest of the wipe.

Since they vandalized the flea mkt and vandalized it again, adding the loathsome "find in raid" enchantment requirements to items, this is no longer the case and there is no benefit to rushing the start of the wipe that way.

However, they have replaced this community-interaction-based early achievement advantage with a less interesting one -> the butt coins machine.

In 2020 Tarkov and beyond, there is only one thing to rush early in the wipe: graphics cards.

This is because graphics cards are the main source of money now. You get them and put them in the butt coin machine and it makes you butt coins every day, which you just sell to the vendor to increase the rouble supply and get rich.

It is a grind to get all 50 of them, but it has replaced all the other grinds and it is an easier grind because it's easier to get graphics cards than it is to do 50 million quests really fast. The guide posted above is how you go grind them, you just run to the spots and pick them up and put them in your butt. It doesn't matter if you die, because the butt coins machine does not require enchanted graphics cards to function.

So if, like many people, you wonder How to Get Money IN Tarkov?, now you know. You just run around interchange picking up graphics cards, and afterward you have infinite money for the whole wipe forever. You can do it, anyone can do it!

Ice Fist
Jun 20, 2012

^^ Please send feedback to beefstache911@hotmail.com, this is not a joke that 'stache is the real deal. Serious assessments only. ^^

Confirming even getting level 1 of the butt coin farm going is the best.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Ice Fist posted:

Confirming even getting level 1 of the butt coin farm going is the best.

Yeah, goons will tell you "Max your hideout" and you might be tempted to go "Yeah but I could spend that money on this AK and then spend more of that money to make it pretty!" and you would be wrong. Max your hideout it makes everything about the game easier.

And it's not actually that difficult! I'm terrible at the game and I managed to get a Level 2 Bitcoin Farm in this wipe in under 200 raids.

Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Dec 24, 2020

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

one thing to note with rushing tech in interchange as a new player: everyone else does too and most of them know the map and how to kill you. its worthwhile learning some stash runs (interchange, customs and especially shoreline are all really good for this) for a more relaxed pace, and with the multiple buffs to safe loot tables safe runs as well once youre a bit more comfortable with the game. now that hatchet running doesnt exist and FIR is a thing running interchange as a new player is going to be pretty brutal because that map is lethal.

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
Me and some friends started this up a few days ago. Having fun losing all our poo poo so far. Which is not sarcasm, the game is a loving blast.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Stux posted:

one thing to note with rushing tech in interchange as a new player: everyone else does too and most of them know the map and how to kill you. its worthwhile learning some stash runs (interchange, customs and especially shoreline are all really good for this) for a more relaxed pace, and with the multiple buffs to safe loot tables safe runs as well once youre a bit more comfortable with the game. now that hatchet running doesnt exist and FIR is a thing running interchange as a new player is going to be pretty brutal because that map is lethal.

This is where the Discord is so helpful. I just have goons who are actually good at the game take my hand and lead me to riches.

flick3r
Apr 22, 2011
the one game to give you real PTSD.

deadseedinside
Jul 6, 2018

Possibly a confused chimpanzee. Approach with caution and snacks.
Thank you Tofu for returning thread to the rightful tark goons

join the discord

get tk'd by people you know

loving cultists better be in this wipe with woods expansion

deadseedinside
Jul 6, 2018

Possibly a confused chimpanzee. Approach with caution and snacks.

Stux posted:

one thing to note with rushing tech in interchange as a new player: everyone else does too and most of them know the map and how to kill you. its worthwhile learning some stash runs (interchange, customs and especially shoreline are all really good for this) for a more relaxed pace, and with the multiple buffs to safe loot tables safe runs as well once youre a bit more comfortable with the game. now that hatchet running doesnt exist and FIR is a thing running interchange as a new player is going to be pretty brutal because that map is lethal.

running interchange is probably least lethal map to get rich on

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

deadseedinside posted:

running interchange is probably least lethal map to get rich on

And more to the point, if you're just grinding it to fill up your butt coin machine like you should do, success is solely measured by getting to the graphics card before the other guy does, and if you die it doesn't matter at all.

sum
Nov 15, 2010


There's also graphics card spawn in the IDEA offices.

While everyone else is (presumably) been having fun pre-wipe blowing all their money on chad PVP, I spent my 2 million rubles on a thermal headset and have been running around the maps looking for loot spawns I've overlooked with the loose item super-vision it gives you (which is how I discovered that gcard spawn exists...). The only other real hidden gem I've found so far is the construction zone next to Sara on second-story Interchange spawns a bunch of really decent tech loot, further confirming that the southwest corner is the only part of the second floor that matters.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

deadseedinside posted:

running interchange is probably least lethal map to get rich on

interchange is a very vertical map and on eu at least is squad central, and the tech stores in particular see a lot of foot traffic. its def a lot quieter to run around outside or around the outskirts on customs or even shoreline and its probably a better choice for new players to get their bearings on while building up a bank. if you're going in with other people then sure, but a new player running solo, thats a really deadly map.

hakimashou posted:

And more to the point, if you're just grinding it to fill up your butt coin machine like you should do, success is solely measured by getting to the graphics card before the other guy does, and if you die it doesn't matter at all.

theres a pretty big gap between starting the game fresh and getting to the bitcoin machine though, including a lot of hideout upgrades that can cost a decent amount of money. with the FIR changes stashes and safes are a lot more reliable for actual spendable resources early on, especially for newer players, and you can often do them while doing the earliest quests. you dont want to be running interchange at level 1 when your tasks are customs focused, but you still need to make money.

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014

Still holding out for Streets before I reinstall; trying to avoid the burnout. New patch looks so tempting, though...

fuckwolf
Oct 2, 2014

by Pragmatica
I got a headset a couple weeks ago so this will be a good chance to finally learn how to walk around slowly before getting one-shotted from behind some indeterminate shrubbery. I’ll need to hop on the Discord and get home schooled by some goons.

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

Inspector_666 posted:

Yeah, goons will tell you "Max your hideout" and you might be tempted to go "Yeah but I could spend that money on this AK and then spend more of that money to make it pretty!" and you would be wrong. Max your hideout it makes everything about the game easier.

And it's not actually that difficult! I'm terrible at the game and I managed to get a Level 2 Bitcoin Farm in this wipe in under 200 raids.

the one caveat is that you can make big $$$ selling off hideout materials for hugely inflated prices early in the wipe and then upgrade your hideout later for less money, but that pretty much requires you to play heavily in the first couple of weeks and make a dedicated decision to farm money (and of course if you're playing that much its usually not a big thing to upgrade on top of money farming)

the other thing I'd note re: the bitcoin farm is that the first card provides by far the best returns (meaning its more important to get it up and running at all than maxed out in terms of GPUs), and if you're not playing a lot there's no need to put too much emphasis on getting to the level 3 farm because a full level 2 farm already maxes out once a day (taking just over 24 hours to hit 3 bitcoins), while a level 3 farm starts requiring multiple logins per day to leverage

LGD fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Dec 24, 2020

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

LGD posted:

the one caveat is that you can make big $$$ selling off hideout materials for hugely inflated prices early in the wipe and then upgrade your hideout later for less money, but that pretty much requires you to play heavily in the first couple of weeks and make a dedicated decision to farm money (and of course if you're playing that much its usually not a big thing to upgrade on top of money farming)

Yeah I mean, don't necessarily start stashing Intel 3 stuff on day 1, and if you can ride that initial wave for real inflated prices it'll help down the road but in general every ruble you put into your hideout will pay itself back somehow. Except for the firing range, I never bothered with that until last week and even then it was just so I didn't have the unconstructed icon staring at me every time I opened the Hideout screen.

LGD posted:

the other thing I'd note re: the bitcoin farm is that the first card provides by far the best returns (meaning its more important to get it up and running at all than maxed out in terms of GPUs), and if you're not playing a lot there's no need to put too much emphasis on getting to the level 3 farm because a full level 2 farm already maxes out once a day (taking just over 24 hours to hit 3 bitcoins), while a level 3 farm starts requiring multiple logins per day to leverage

I got it up to 25 cards which yeah, it was nice but even just having the full L1 is sweet sweet free money. L3 farm is a big investment even just in trader rep since it requires Peacekeeper 4 on top of everything else (I didn't even unlock access to him this wipe because I seemingly only ran into BEAR after getting Friend From The West Pt 1.) But at the same time it is cool to know that if I ever really went on tilt I could just not play for a day or two and come back to a million rubles just chilling.

Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Dec 24, 2020

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
To expand upon the previous point, rushing the wipe was a joy not only because profiteering on the gunsmith parts made you very rich, but also because from time to time a gamer would message you about it

deadseedinside
Jul 6, 2018

Possibly a confused chimpanzee. Approach with caution and snacks.

Stux posted:

interchange is a very vertical map and on eu at least is squad central, and the tech stores in particular see a lot of foot traffic. its def a lot quieter to run around outside or around the outskirts on customs or even shoreline and its probably a better choice for new players to get their bearings on while building up a bank. if you're going in with other people then sure, but a new player running solo, thats a really deadly map.

exactly. squads don't move anywhere near as fast as 1 man with a pistol. You will always beat them to the goods. Interchange is one of the best places for a solo to wipe a 5man too.

not sure what the vertical part affects when you're just sprinting for the gold. Looting stashes is profitable but a slower (and significantly more boring way to make bank). Shoreline is easily best money map, but that really only shines once you get some keys on you. Even just for straight loot running, the interchange garage is a non-stop 10min runthrough that will consistently net you 500k per raid and often more.


quote:

theres a pretty big gap between starting the game fresh and getting to the bitcoin machine though, including a lot of hideout upgrades that can cost a decent amount of money. with the FIR changes stashes and safes are a lot more reliable for actual spendable resources early on, especially for newer players, and you can often do them while doing the earliest quests. you dont want to be running interchange at level 1 when your tasks are customs focused, but you still need to make money.

doing the initial power grind to BTC miner will net you forever income and float you for the rest of the game so you don't have to skulk around the edges of maps just hitting stashes and avoiding the fun parts of the game.

sum
Nov 15, 2010

deadseedinside posted:

not sure what the vertical part affects when you're just sprinting for the gold. Looting stashes is profitable but a slower (and significantly more boring way to make bank). Shoreline is easily best money map, but that really only shines once you get some keys on you. Even just for straight loot running, the interchange garage is a non-stop 10min runthrough that will consistently net you 500k per raid and often more.

What's your route for Interchange garages? I almost always just stay out of them.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

deadseedinside posted:

doing the initial power grind to BTC miner will net you forever income and float you for the rest of the game so you don't have to skulk around the edges of maps just hitting stashes and avoiding the fun parts of the game.


It also really isn't that hard with help! Like I said, I got to a full L2 in 170 raids this wipe, without any of the money from the birthday package, and without all of my effort being pointed directly at that goal at the start (because I thought it was out of reach.) This wasn't my first wipe, to be fair, but it's definitely the first time I really tried to do a lot of this stuff.

deadseedinside
Jul 6, 2018

Possibly a confused chimpanzee. Approach with caution and snacks.

sum posted:

What's your route for Interchange garages? I almost always just stay out of them.

you're missing out. there are like 20~ weapons crates and other spawns all through there and it doesn't matter which side you spawn from the route is pretty much the same. Oli -> Idea or Idea -> Oli. I think we have maps on the discord but it's easiest to just do a runthrough with someone to point them out to you.

You also hardly ever run into anyone when you're doing it so it's just spawn in, walk straight through picking up all the good and then walking out the other side to extract.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

deadseedinside posted:

exactly. squads don't move anywhere near as fast as 1 man with a pistol. You will always beat them to the goods. Interchange is one of the best places for a solo to wipe a 5man too.

and then they pop you on the way out and we live in FIR times. we're talking new players theyre not going to wipe anything.

quote:

not sure what the vertical part affects when you're just sprinting for the gold. Looting stashes is profitable but a slower (and significantly more boring way to make bank). Shoreline is easily best money map, but that really only shines once you get some keys on you. Even just for straight loot running, the interchange garage is a non-stop 10min runthrough that will consistently net you 500k per raid and often more.

its an extra thing to be aware of at a time when a new player is learning the basics of how the game works. removing that until youre more comfortable with simply moving around and looting and dealing with scavs helps with the huge learning curve. looting stashes is very safe and can be done in conjunction with the early game tasks, it keeps you on the map for longer so you can get more acclimatised to it and learn the flow of the game, and it keeps your combat situations more manageable. youll meet people far less often and it'll usually just be another solo player, who probably isnt extremely good at the game because theyre also avoiding the players rushing for the pvp hot spots. straight loot running isnt really something new players should be doing if they can avoid it, loot running alongside tasks and scav hunting is where you want to find your feet with the game.

quote:

doing the initial power grind to BTC miner will net you forever income and float you for the rest of the game so you don't have to skulk around the edges of maps just hitting stashes and avoiding the fun parts of the game.

again for a new player attempting a power grind to a btc miner is going to make you hate the game probably. its much better to start slow as theres a lot to take in in the game. tech running for brand new players was a lot more viable when that gpu you found was cash no matter what, when its "you can use it in the miner eventually" which is itself locked behind multiple trader levels and a lot of expensive hideout upgrades that are going to take a new player far longer to hit its not as useful, especially when money is a common concern for people starting out. in comparison running stashes lets you leave raid alive more often, and safes give a much more reliable income from stuff that doesnt need fir to get you cash and doesnt need your hideout already setup to the point you can use gpus.

have to consider what new players not being chaperoned are going to come up against and how much there is to take in at first.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Stux posted:

have to consider what new players not being chaperoned are going to come up against and how much there is to take in at first.

There's a link to the Discord in the OP though so nobody reading this thread should be going through unchaperoned.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

not everyone will want that and some will just be looking for general advice, i cant imagine playing the game that way personally lol but theres lots of different ways to approach the game

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
Been thinkin' about tarkov some advice i can give to the new folks from my vast experience hyper sperging in tarkov for so long.

I think if I had to impart one piece of advice that people would actually follow it is to ALWAYS use THE BEST AMMO.

Skimping on ammo is the worst possible thing to skimp on. In the most general terms, what is the point of a shooting game where you cant harm the people you shoot? It is absurd.

In more quantifiable terms, good ammo is expensive but good armor is much more expensive. Spending 30k on ammo will mean you are depriving a well geared adversary of 300k worth of armor, you are getting 10x more value than you paid. He is no better off than if he wasn't wearing armor at all.


The corollary to this which is the hard part, is to get better at aiming and shooting people. The better you are at aiming and shooting people the less ammo you need, and the less costly using good ammo becomes.

William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



Tips for new folks, from a guy who has only been playing since mid-August:

1) Think you heard something? You did. Don't ever assume it was nothing. It wasn't.
2) Not worried about that noise because it's just a scav? It's not.
3) He's always got a buddy, no matter who "he" is.
4) Even if he doesn't have a buddy, somebody else heard your gunshots and they are coming.

With these 4 simple rules committed to memory you will avoid a large percentage of the kinds of deaths I repeatedly experienced when I was new.

sum
Nov 15, 2010

I've only been playing seriously for like a month now but to add to the things I wish I knew 30 days ago: if you're playing solo and running everywhere (*unless you're a hundred percent sure you can beat everyone else due to your spawn) you will die a lot. Play slow. Be quiet. If you're not 100% sure you have a serious advantage in an engagement, don't get involved. Make sure that running away is always an option, and don't be afraid to do it. Think of it like you're playing Metal Gear Solid.

Also,

- do the quests and kill scavs (when safe). You level way faster and getting the flea market is super important.
- Insure your poo poo. You get it back most of the time. You'll eventually have a rotating selection of guns and gear and you'll never have to do scav runs again.
- Don't get into spray battles with scavs. They're accurate enough to mess your poo poo up.
- Most players are inpatient. If you're cornered and mutually zugzwanged you usually only need to wait a minute or less for them to make a stupid push.

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014

William Henry Hairytaint posted:

Tips for new folks, from a guy who has only been playing since mid-August:

1) Think you heard something? You did. Don't ever assume it was nothing. It wasn't.
2) Not worried about that noise because it's just a scav? It's not.
3) He's always got a buddy, no matter who "he" is.
4) Even if he doesn't have a buddy, somebody else heard your gunshots and they are coming.

With these 4 simple rules committed to memory you will avoid a large percentage of the kinds of deaths I repeatedly experienced when I was new. being a stealth game guard NPC.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

William Henry Hairytaint posted:

3) He's always got a buddy, no matter who "he" is.

The four most important words in Tarkov are There's Always One More.

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deadseedinside
Jul 6, 2018

Possibly a confused chimpanzee. Approach with caution and snacks.

Stux posted:

and then they pop you on the way out and we live in FIR times. we're talking new players theyre not going to wipe anything.


its an extra thing to be aware of at a time when a new player is learning the basics of how the game works. removing that until youre more comfortable with simply moving around and looting and dealing with scavs helps with the huge learning curve. looting stashes is very safe and can be done in conjunction with the early game tasks, it keeps you on the map for longer so you can get more acclimatised to it and learn the flow of the game, and it keeps your combat situations more manageable. youll meet people far less often and it'll usually just be another solo player, who probably isnt extremely good at the game because theyre also avoiding the players rushing for the pvp hot spots. straight loot running isnt really something new players should be doing if they can avoid it, loot running alongside tasks and scav hunting is where you want to find your feet with the game.


again for a new player attempting a power grind to a btc miner is going to make you hate the game probably. its much better to start slow as theres a lot to take in in the game. tech running for brand new players was a lot more viable when that gpu you found was cash no matter what, when its "you can use it in the miner eventually" which is itself locked behind multiple trader levels and a lot of expensive hideout upgrades that are going to take a new player far longer to hit its not as useful, especially when money is a common concern for people starting out. in comparison running stashes lets you leave raid alive more often, and safes give a much more reliable income from stuff that doesnt need fir to get you cash and doesnt need your hideout already setup to the point you can use gpus.

have to consider what new players not being chaperoned are going to come up against and how much there is to take in at first.

lol

tbh these sound like maybe "you" problems and not universal issues. We've done sherpa for many a goon for many a year now and you make it sound harder than it is.

There is absolutely a vertical learning curve for tarkov and the people that tend to enjoy and stick with the game are the ones that got into it for that exact reason.

Extract camping is VERY largely exaggerated and is literally like a 1-2% of your raids occurrence and even those you don't know if they were just arriving there at the same time or heard you so stopped to ambush. Either way.

Getting good at the game requires playing the game and just skulking around the edges of the map is a way to get bored and stop playing because it's boring. The best way to learn the game aspects are to throw yourself into the meat grinder and get over gear fear right off the hop. Literally none of it matters and it's almost impossible to actually go broke in tarkov even if you're are terrible at the game (which everyone is). Running stashes IS just loot running and will not actually help you progress through the lovely early stages of PMC evolution. Getting your hands dirty and not worrying about dying will elevate you 100 times faster and get you farther than ratting around the peripherals by yourself endlessly. Fwiw, i prefer to do most of my questing and whatnot solo simply because i find it easier to actually get poo poo done and not get your poo poo pushed in by 5mans. Solo you are always in control of when to go, when to wait, when to shoot and when to run. Solo play and Squad play are very different beasts in tarkov but either way or a combination can make you better, faster, stronger and richer quicker.

ATTN NEW PLAYERS: Join the discord community and you will have unlimited knowledge and sperginess at your fingertips to benefit from and no matter your playstyle we can help you to know what is worth doing and not doing and the best way to do whatever it is you're trying to do. Barring that, we will also all happily rain loot, weapons, armor, quest items down on you just to give you a leg up (to then piss all over pubbies and assert your dominance)


and this is all excellent advice:

William Henry Hairytaint posted:

Tips for new folks, from a guy who has only been playing since mid-August:

1) Think you heard something? You did. Don't ever assume it was nothing. It wasn't.
2) Not worried about that noise because it's just a scav? It's not.
3) He's always got a buddy, no matter who "he" is.
4) Even if he doesn't have a buddy, somebody else heard your gunshots and they are coming.

With these 4 simple rules committed to memory you will avoid a large percentage of the kinds of deaths I repeatedly experienced when I was new.

there is always someone watching from a bush and waiting an extra few seconds before looting will save your life more often than not. GREED is the #1 biggest killer in Tarkov. Get over gear fear and resist the loot tunnel vision and you will already be above the average player (and always use the best ammo you can afford. It seems expensive, but it is an investment that will always pay off in the long run)

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