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Chaotic Flame
May 31, 2009

So...

I think it's pretty common now. For the drag race historians out there, is there a season where this became more pronounced? I wanna say season 7 but it's been so long, I could be misremembering.

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blizzardvizard
Sep 12, 2012

Shhh... don't wake up the sleeping lion



I think it really started with Courtney on 6, but I feel like I only started noticing it around season 9? 7 and 8 had a lot of lowrent runways still, Violet and Fame aside (though Violet probably made most of her outfits herself)

curiousTerminal
Sep 2, 2011

what a humorous anecdote.

It definitely wasn't season 4, that was still very much mall girl chic, I think season 5 had a few very Produced looks (Coco's orange ruffle sleeve thing jumps to mind) and I think it was just the queens with prior success in season 6 who had them. Nowadays a bunch of queens will take out loans so they can get a bunch of looks tailor made for them ahead of time because they know they'll be able to pay them off with the booking fee bump they can take.
Sherry Pie got all her looks from the same designer and he was hopping mad when her runway was edited out of the Frozen episode.

resting mitch face
Apr 9, 2005

5) I hear you.

Kandy in the top 4 The eliminations have been rigga morris this whole season. Iím over it.

I feel like Symone is getting the winning edit here, no complaints, but I think Rose is amazing. I think Roseís only downside is that she didnít struggle in any of the challenges. Ru seems to like seeing someone nearly crack and then power through.

Bianca and Violet are 2 queens I can think of that just stayed in the winning lane the entire competition. Sasha? Aquaria. Okay nvm maybe Rose has a good shot.

Rose or Symone. Thatís all.

blizzardvizard
Sep 12, 2012

Shhh... don't wake up the sleeping lion



Violet stumbled here and there, but tbh that's more on the lovely set of challenges than her (or any of the queens for that matter)

I do think it comes down to between Symone and Rose but to be frank Rose's fashion choices... have had a lot of misses, so Symone gets my vote.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

resting mitch face posted:

Bianca and Violet are 2 queens I can think of that just stayed in the winning lane the entire competition. Sasha? Aquaria. Okay nvm maybe Rose has a good shot.

Bianca, yes. Violet, no. Violet was middle of the pack the majority of the competition. Bob was definitely in the winning lane the entire season. Same with Raja. I'm not sure Aquaria was for sure in the winning lane, but she was definitely up there. Sasha, I disagree with. I think Shea was for sure going to take the crown that season until Sasha blew everyone away with her finale lip syncs.

resting mitch face
Apr 9, 2005

5) I hear you.

Nihonniboku posted:

Bianca, yes. Violet, no. Violet was middle of the pack the majority of the competition. Bob was definitely in the winning lane the entire season. Same with Raja. I'm not sure Aquaria was for sure in the winning lane, but she was definitely up there. Sasha, I disagree with. I think Shea was for sure going to take the crown that season until Sasha blew everyone away with her finale lip syncs.

Winning lane was probably not the correct term. Like Bianca and Aquaria, Violet and Sasha never lip synced, so they were never really in danger on their season. Bob and Raja both had a slip up near the top and ended in the bottom 2*, similar to Jinxx and Sharon, so we get to see them sweat a little bit before winning.


*Shea definitely got that very edit and I thought for sure she had it in the bag. But then someone had to get so emotional, baby. 🥀

Hug in a Can
Aug 1, 2010

NICE FLAMINGO
kind heart
fierce mind
brave spirit

be good and try hard!



Rupert Buttermilk posted:

I know that the queens show up to RPDR with outfits already made, but are there a lot who have most if not all of their outfits made by a professional designer? I know that's what Gottmik's situation is. I don't normally follow behind the scenes stuff, so I have no idea how common or rare this is.

These days they generally work with drag specialist designers rather than fashion house designers, but the distinction there has less to do with talent and more to do with how mainstream the designers are.

Speaking of drag specialist designers, check out Joshuan Aponte and JForPay, two of Chicagoís finest designers


https://instagram.com/joshuanapontedesigns


https://instagram.com/jforpay_designs

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008



Another reason why Monique is so amazing. She showed up to the competition with glitter and Jesus but still made it halfway and charmed America, America.

Poulpe
Nov 11, 2006
Canadian Santa Extraordinaire


Rupert Buttermilk posted:

I know that the queens show up to RPDR with outfits already made, but are there a lot who have most if not all of their outfits made by a professional designer? I know that's what Gottmik's situation is. I don't normally follow behind the scenes stuff, so I have no idea how common or rare this is.

Yeah, most queens come with designer wear now. It's how you gotta play the game!
The real fun fact is that production takes photos of every queen in every look prior to filming starting, so they can choose the runway of the week when they know a particular queen has a good/bad look and nudge them in the direction they want

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008



Poulpe posted:

The real fun fact is that production takes photos of every queen in every look prior to filming starting, so they can choose the runway of the week when they know a particular queen has a good/bad look and nudge them in the direction they want

Kandy must've given them a real headscratcher

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

PRESIDENT OF THE OFFICIAL BRENDAN FRASER FAN CLUB





Ru Pauls bougie race.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS


blizzardvizard posted:

Violet stumbled here and there, but tbh that's more on the lovely set of challenges than her (or any of the queens for that matter)

I do think it comes down to between Symone and Rose but to be frank Rose's fashion choices... have had a lot of misses, so Symone gets my vote.

Rose is the more well rounded queen because you can expect her to do at minimum decent in any challenge while Symone has more wow moments (both bad and good). So of course Symone is going to win.

Read After Burning
Feb 19, 2013

"All this, for me? Ah, you didn't have to!"


Hug in a Can posted:

Speaking of drag specialist designers, check out Joshuan Aponte and JForPay, two of Chicagoís finest designers


https://instagram.com/joshuanapontedesigns

Denali's Quetzalcoatl look makes me gasp every time. So fuckin' stunning!

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

Is next week the finale? Or are they going to continue to torture us and drag this out?

I also looked to check to see when All-Stars 6 premieres (which, reminder it'll be exclusive to Paramount+ and will not air on VH1), and while there is no date, apparently we have yet ANOTHER RPDR spin-off: Queen of the Universe. It's billed as a Eurovision style international drag race competition. This is apparently separate from RPDR All-Stars International.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

PRESIDENT OF THE OFFICIAL BRENDAN FRASER FAN CLUB





Just got a new alarm system installed in my house and it allowed me to rename each door from the outside.

Welcome to the Interior Illusions Lounge whenever you come through the front door friends.

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

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Grimey Drawer

Well it was pretty obvious that it was either going to be Olivia or Kandy going home and equally obvious that they were going to do anything they could to keep Kandy, so this week was a foregone conclusion. I do have to admit that Olivia's sweetness, which I initially found very charming, has gotten pretty cloying and I'm kinda fine with not seeing her for a while.

My preference would be for the crown to go to either Symone or Mik but I wouldn't be mad if Rose got it either. At this point I'm assuming Kandy will win though, because why the gently caress not.

I just checked the RPDR Facebook page and half of the replies to every post is "what is Kandy still doing here", so I guess it's not just us.

Der-Wreck
Feb 12, 2006
Friday nights are for Wapner!



I just want to know how TF kandy was safe wearing nothing but a green body suit. That one still bugs me

Andrew_1985
Sep 18, 2007
Hay hay hay!

Nihonniboku posted:

Is next week the finale? Or are they going to continue to torture us and drag this out?

Oh you know Ru will draw this out.


Next week will be the song challenge. Get ready for some uninspired lyrics about the crown, throne or making it to the top.

The week after the reunion. It will be the Kandy Muse show.

The week after that, some sort of finale.

Mind you, with covid things may have of changed.

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012



Der-Wreck posted:

I just want to know how TF kandy was safe wearing nothing but a green body suit. That one still bugs me



that and olivia's tanktop / trackpants in the social media rusical have been hot topics in the alf pogs household

Poulpe
Nov 11, 2006
Canadian Santa Extraordinaire


Der-Wreck posted:

I just want to know how TF kandy was safe wearing nothing but a green body suit. That one still bugs me

It's because they need a big girl in the top 4 every season until one is actually good enough to win. I don't think Silky belonged there either. (Eureka's a little more debatable but she definitely lost that lip sync against Kameron.)

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

I still think it's wild that I very briefly dated a guy who went on a very bad date with Eureka once.

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008



If they want a big girl to win so much, why don't they ever cast more than one per season?

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012



gandlethorpe posted:

If they want a big girl to win so much, why don't they ever cast more than one per season?

they don't necessarily want a big girl to win, they just want to keep the fanbase happy and a big girl winning might help with that.

Pork Chop is the ultimate big girl winner. she's in nearly every season!

Read After Burning
Feb 19, 2013

"All this, for me? Ah, you didn't have to!"


Ginger should have won Season 7, and Pearl shouldn't have been in the top 3 or 4.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

Read After Burning posted:

Ginger should have won Season 7, and Pearl shouldn't have been in the top 3 or 4.

Despite how many talented queens there were on season 7, I don't think there is any controversial opinion about that season.

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008



Nihonniboku posted:

Despite how many talented queens there were on season 7, I don't think there is any controversial opinion about that season.

Sasha Belle was cuter on the show before she got jacked

Poulpe
Nov 11, 2006
Canadian Santa Extraordinaire


gandlethorpe posted:

If they want a big girl to win so much, why don't they ever cast more than one per season?

Have you seen the cast list for All Stars 6?

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

gandlethorpe posted:

Sasha Belle was cuter on the show before she got jacked

haha every time I see those photos, I'm like, wait, who is this?

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012



Poulpe posted:

Have you seen the cast list for All Stars 6?

good lord. not sure how much more Eureka and Silky Nutmeg Ganache i can take.

Chaotic Flame
May 31, 2009

So...

alf_pogs posted:

good lord. not sure how much more Eureka and Silky Nutmeg Ganache i can take.

Wait, is this true because I will not be tuning in for that.

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

Chaotic Flame posted:

Wait, is this true because I will not be tuning in for that.

All Stars 6 rumored cast list:


Pandora Boxx
Sonique
Yara Sofia
Jiggly Caliente
Trinity K Bonet
Ginger Minj
Akeria C Davenport
Rajah Ohara
Scarlet Envy
Jan

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012



Nihonniboku posted:

All Stars 6 rumored cast list:


Pandora Boxx
Sonique
Yara Sofia
Jiggly Caliente
Trinity K Bonet
Ginger Minj
Akeria C Davenport
Rajah Ohara
Scarlet Envy
Jan


huh the rupaul fanbase wiki has a slightly different list, including Silky, Eureka and Serena ChaCha

speculation abounds

Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

alf_pogs posted:

huh the rupaul fanbase wiki has a slightly different list, including Silky, Eureka and Serena ChaCha

speculation abounds

Hmm. Yours is probably more accurate. I just pulled up an article from March.

A God Damn Ghost
Nov 25, 2007

booyah!

alf_pogs posted:

huh the rupaul fanbase wiki has a slightly different list, including Silky, Eureka and Serena ChaCha

speculation abounds

ugh good lord no. I don't need a third season of Eureka for a good long while and I'm not interested in more Silky either, although I think with a different edit she could be alright. but Serena ChaCha?? what on earth.

What I really want is another dip in the cool waters of Darienne Lake!

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.


Grimey Drawer

Oof. None of those names are particularly exciting to me. They really ought to only do one All Stars every five years or something because at this point it just feels like a random draw from the list of queens who haven't been on All Stars yet.

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008



Honestly, it might be interesting seeing an AS with a cast where over half of them didn't win challenges and have something to prove

But really, I'm most interested in seeing what drama Serena brings

Edit: She has actually stepped up her looks, btw

gandlethorpe fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Apr 6, 2021

Poulpe
Nov 11, 2006
Canadian Santa Extraordinaire


Rupaul's Drag Race: Rudemption would make a far more interesting show than what All-Stars has become
Bring back a set of queens that went home 1st to say, 3rd? 4th? And let them have another shot

Those queens would be THIRSTY FOR IT

angerbeet
Mar 23, 2004


keep on thunkin


I just don't like it when they bring back queens to All Stars twice or more. People keep calling for Adore to be on again and it's like, she had her shot.

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gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008



I love the implication of "All Stars 1 didn't count" lol

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