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The mouths not matching the audio always kills dubs for me, just too distracting
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If anglos put in 1/10th of the effort other countries put into dubs y'all wouldn't even notice.
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Feb 23, 2021 09:32
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No all dubs suck. Multiple audio tracks is something the entire production has to be structured around for the end-result not to be very mediocre. It's also easier in some mediums than others.
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Feb 23, 2021 11:17
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Terriers is on Star in the UK. Will this be what finally gets me to watch it all the way through???
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Feb 23, 2021 13:24
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Nundizo posted:Has there ever been a non-english show with a good dub? Cowboy Bebop I wanna say the English dub of Goodnight Mommy was very good, but it's been a very long time since I watched it.
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Feb 23, 2021 13:42
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Trigun has a great dub.
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Feb 23, 2021 14:15
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Hughmoris posted:Been watching Avenue 5. Just finished up episode 8. Holy poo poo, that airlock scene. Let me tell you, watching that premier a year ago, right as *gestures around* all of this was starting sure was A Thing.
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Feb 23, 2021 15:42
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GreenNight posted:Trigun has a great dub. Wasn't it done by the same production company that did Cowboy Bebop? I think they did Outlaw Star as well? All fantastic.
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Feb 23, 2021 16:02
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Nundizo posted:Has there ever been a non-english show with a good dub? Eurotrash for all the location stuff from series 2 on (the first series has them doing serious voices and is sadly the only version that Channel 4 have to view, in a heavily censored form at that)
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Feb 23, 2021 17:17
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MiddleOne posted:No all dubs suck. lmao no
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Feb 23, 2021 17:29
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All live-action dubs suck The weirdest dub I can think of is the first Mad Max movie which is an English language film but they dubbed it with American actors.
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Feb 23, 2021 17:30
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Bootleg VHSs of Chinese action movies with all the voices dubbed by one disinterested woman are my childhood.
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Feb 23, 2021 17:34
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Mu Zeta posted:All live-action dubs suck Andie McDowell did a Tarzan movie in 1984 where they dubbed over her lines with Glen Close. Also for the first Hellboy movie the studio made GDT get a voice actor (David Hyde Pierce) for Abe instead of letting Doug Jones do it.
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Feb 23, 2021 17:42
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Azhais posted:The mouths not matching the audio always kills dubs for me, just too distracting Interestingly I think this has gotten worse for me as technology has advanced. I parse it as a desync issue that I need to "fix", I don't recall having any issue as a kid. Though memory is funny so I won't say that as an absolute.
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Feb 23, 2021 18:23
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Some day the film industry will try to convince us that using deepfakes to change mouth movements to match dubs is just as good as the real thing and the thought depresses me.
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Feb 23, 2021 18:26
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feedmyleg posted:Some day the film industry will try to convince us that using deepfakes to change mouth movements to match dubs is just as good as the real thing and the thought depresses me. We've had the technology all along https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksHw6ybWJHg
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Feb 23, 2021 18:34
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Mu Zeta posted:All live-action dubs suck I didn't know about that, how bizarre. I don't remember the accents being heavy, and that decade gave us Crocodile Dundee and Outback Steakhouse, the US had kind of a thing for Australia at the time.
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Feb 23, 2021 18:35
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Sumo posted:We've had the technology all along Robert Smigel shoving a black spacer in between his front teeth to do Arnold, I loved that bit.
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Feb 23, 2021 18:35
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Let me tell you, watching that premier a year ago, right as *gestures around* all of this was starting sure was A Thing. I bet. I didn't realize it is created by the guy who did Veep. If it would have premiered a few months later it would have landed a much bigger presence with the quarantine crowd I think. Also, I love that unsettling theme music that plays when poo poo is going sideways.
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Feb 23, 2021 22:08
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Hughmoris posted:I bet. I didn't realize it is created by the guy who did Veep. If it would have premiered a few months later it would have landed a much bigger presence with the quarantine crowd I think. Also, I love that unsettling theme music that plays when poo poo is going sideways. The whole thing perfectly captured the zeitgeist of 2020, which is either amazing prescient or Americans are depressingly predictable. I suppose it can be both... The recent stock market fiasco surrounding Gamestop felt like a show written by Iannucci. 
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Feb 23, 2021 23:38
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GreenNight posted:Trigun has a great dub. Ghost in the Shell SAC too
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Feb 23, 2021 23:50
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For me: Animation = Dub (unless it's really badly done). Live Action = Sub I'm sure that probably annoys some people and is sacrilege, but my reasons are: Animation usually has a more stylistic flair that I would like to appreciate without bouncing between watching the visuals and reading subtitles. Also, voice acting is usually a bit more 'larger than life' than live acting that benefits from localization a bit more. There's been a few exceptions here and there, but I usually find I'm holding to that. For example, I found the first few episodes of this season's Attack on Titan a lot harder to follow (and appreciate the crazy visuals) reading the subs and ultimately decided to wait for Adult Swim to catch up with the dub.
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Feb 24, 2021 00:12
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The Knick is on HBO now and holy crap it's good poo poo
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Feb 24, 2021 00:18
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Simone Magus posted:The Knick is on HBO now and holy crap it's good poo poo So loving good, and Andre Holland absolutely kills it and is rumored to be working with Soderberg on a third season. Soderberg shot, edited, directed and composed the music for the whole series, it's very interesting to watch 20 episodes of a show with a single creative vision behind it.
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Feb 24, 2021 00:27
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Banshee also just got added to HBO Max.
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Feb 24, 2021 00:32
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zoux posted:So loving good, and Andre Holland absolutely kills it and is rumored to be working with Soderberg on a third season. I'm only on episode 5 and yeah. I've always loved Clive Owen but everyone is just killing it. It reminds me of Deadwood in that way, where there's a singular vision and everyone is firing on all cylinders Soderbergh's just great. I rewatched Logan Lucky just the other day too, such an underrated one of his
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Feb 24, 2021 00:40
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bull3964 posted:For me: That's generally where I land too. My brain doesn't like it when voices don't match the person. With an actual human performing, the voice and the actions are a lot more inextricably linked than with animation. Audio being massively out of sync bugs me for the same reason. So subs for live action, dubs, if they aren't total garbage, for animation.
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Feb 24, 2021 00:40
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The main nurse in that show? Bono's irl daughter.
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Feb 24, 2021 00:40
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Trying out Peacock and God drat it why is this the only streaming service to show Rotten Tomatoes scores! 
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Feb 24, 2021 00:50
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zoux posted:The main nurse in that show? Bono's irl daughter. 
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Feb 24, 2021 01:01
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zoux posted:So loving good, and Andre Holland absolutely kills it and is rumored to be working with Soderberg on a third season. Uhh, no. That was definitely Cliff Martinez.
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Feb 24, 2021 01:04
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Oh well never mind, gently caress Soderberg, lazy hack.
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Feb 24, 2021 01:05
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zoux posted:Oh well never mind, gently caress Soderberg, lazy hack. Ha! I just love Martinez. Soderberg is one of the hardest working directors out there -- he did two HBO shows and a movie in one year. And he's always his cinematographer. Hope we finally get this black and white season of The Knick they've been threatening to do for ages.
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Feb 24, 2021 01:37
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Aardvark! posted:Trying out Peacock and God drat it why is this the only streaming service to show Rotten Tomatoes scores! Because RT scores are worthless
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Feb 24, 2021 01:45
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Because RT scores are worthless I've been using them for years just for a ballpark of "should I bother watching this" to filter out really boring poo poo, and I'm happy with the results of it.  I definitely don't think the ratings are a meaningful way to compare two movies.
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Feb 24, 2021 01:58
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Nundizo posted:Has there ever been a non-english show with a good dub? Ghost in the Shell?
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Feb 24, 2021 02:00
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But to be fair you have a lot more room to finesse the translation with anime lip flaps than you do with real life stuff.
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Feb 24, 2021 03:20
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I just put most of the shows that get recommended here or a couple other threads into a big spreadsheet, and then watch a couple eps years later to see if they're actually good.
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Feb 24, 2021 04:07
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:But to be fair you have a lot more room to finesse the translation with anime lip flaps than you do with real life stuff. There was a documentary about dubbing on the Special Edition of "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly", and the audio engineer talks about how, with good dubs, not only does he have to translate the dialogue in English before recording the dub, he then has to rewrite the dialogue to find words that mean the same, but also have the same amount of syllables so they match the lip movements on camera. (Also Eastwood, in his third go around working with Leone, telling Eli Wallach keeps precise notes on any dialogue changes they made when filming, so they would have notes when it came time to do the English dub, since: a) Their dialogue track taken during filming would be discarded, and b) No one else on the film crew was going to bother to take the notes for them.)
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Just in case Twitter fixes it.
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