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Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Timby posted:

but given the pedigree of the creative talent and the cast, someone somewhere should have said, "Wait a minute ... this isn't actually funny."

Felt the same way about that Space Force show. How did so many funny people make something so bad?

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Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Started 12 Monkeys Tv show version and it was pretty good at the start... but in one the later episodes when I thought they'd start to wrap up mysteries and give the juicy exposition, they instead started setting up more stuff. Some of it very open-ended, then I realized it had four freaking seasons. When I thought it was just the one season I was like "hmm how are they going to stretch the movies into a whole season" but now I'm getting a bit weary. Giving me Travellers vibes, cool time-travel story up until they to go overboard with the time-travel-present/future politics. They also on the surface so far seem to be treading a lot of the same ground like the whole faction sends agents into the past to stop a thing but guess what they're actually part of the problem or get caught up with the people sent back before who are now all bitter and want the future to be lovely instead of changed for better.

Is 12 Monkeys a worthwhile ride? I peeked ahead at the episode descriptions of the next seasons and I don't know if the writer for the summaries is just a cornball or what but they really give this impression of extremely drawn-out mystery reveal. Descriptions like:
"Will Cole and Cassieís journey to 1957 save the time stream and preserve reality? Plus: At last, Titan City."

"In the season finale, sacrifices are made, time travel is turned on its head and The Witness is revealed."

"In order to track the Witness, the gang must travel to the most outrageous era yet: The 1980s."

"Former friends, now enemies, race to find the Witness in 1904. And, at last, he reveals his face."

"Thereís plot twists Ė and then thereís this twist. The final battle with the Witness has begun."

"Team Splinter goes back in time to the wild, wild frontier in search of a weapon to destroy the Witness."

Like drat, haven't even gotten to any of this and already feel a bit dragged along. My best guess from seeing most of season 1 is that the Witness is either somehow just Cole or he and Cassie rawdog at some point and then it's doctor who and some evil time travel organization steals their baby and makes it into Evil Time Travel Boy. Then again, for a long while I thought Cassie and the blonde scientist with a fake german accent were the same person since it was the same actress but they're actually different people. Still, I am already prepared for a Futurama scenario where Cole is his own grandpa or whatever.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
I'll at least finish this season out, but when Cole's best friend from Prison Break went into the past with the goal to actively towards creating a horrible future for his son I was just like "noooo" go away dude. Probably could've also spaced the eps out more. I guess I just wasn't expecting it to be like "general time travel adventures" in the middle part of 12 Monkeys but if it all comes together in the end in a satisfying way I'll give it more time. I was enjoying it up until I realized how much more there was to go.

River Song was a cool idea and I can't blame them for wanting to do their own version but I'm gonna need to care more about them for it to work and they haven't gotten to really establishing their love yet outside just being two people reconnecting over time over crazy trauma drama.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

El Jeffe posted:

I've got a scene from some show on the tip of my tongue and it's bugging me.

A woman has something very traumatic happen to her, and everyone knows about it. She's out of work for a long time but eventually goes back to work as a real estate agent. She's showing a house to a couple and it becomes clear that they have no interest in the house and are only there to gawk at "the _____ lady" because they're truecrime fans or something. She realizes this and calls them out.

Sound familiar?

American Horror Story 1984? no im remembering things muddy

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
one of the guys from impractical jokers is on 13 monkeys right now and i think that the woman from schitts creek should be on impractical jokers but in this character

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Yeah, she's definitely my favourite of the pack. Also some stuff really changed quickly and I dig it. Cassie is the grimdark badass now.

edit: she's like "i'm not a time traveller, but is from the past, and has already gone back to the past then back to the future again"

Khanstant fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Jan 16, 2021

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

EL BROMANCE posted:

First two episodes of Mr. Mayor were fun, but it really found its stride this week I thought. Plus the trademark Tina Fey 20 Jokes a Minute mean itís a sitcom Iím actually laughing with, rather than just thinking something is amusing.

I liked this third episode more but it still is a bit too easy to see Liz and Jack in these roles. Establishing that relationship between danson and scraggly helped a lot.

Is there a 12 Monkeys Thread? I just need somewhere to remark on things like "Ramse sounds like Bender half the time" or "lol Ramse own son owned him for being an evil pro-bad-future jerk."

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Does a Vampire Cop have to still get permission to enter a house if it has a warrant?

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
I stuck with 12 Monkeys, liking it overall but this one episode is really wiggin me out so close to the end. Why do these time shows always try to write themselves into a place of helping horrible poo poo happen? We gotta do a 9/11 we gotta save hitler we gotta make sure rosa parks is discriminated against gotta rewind to be crushed by frozen peepee gotta go back and do Original Sin in the garden of eden.

Also contriving a circumstance where main character must get into nazi lingerie? They did save another weird contrivance they chose to do by having a character Grey's Anatomy himself to alter swastika carving.

edit: okay they didnt save hitler. good. fuss rescinded, but the nazi lingerie is still just a weird choice

Khanstant fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Jan 27, 2021

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
pouring one out for all the cinemas who won't make it through the pandemic (just kidding, I paid 12 dollars for that bottle of water, I'm not wasting any of it)

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
12 Monkeys was pretty good. DEfinitely feel like they could've squeezed it down a bit more but at least everything tied up or seemed to be eventually.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Friend recommended Ramy to me without saying why. Ended up watching the whole first season yesterday. I like this show! I just wish it had been around 20 fuckin' years ago. It's wild how much better coming-of-age/relationship comedy-dramas are today compared to the poo poo I was seeing when it was most relevant to me. Late 90s and Early 00s created some extremely whack ideas about... everything.

I just can't help but think of how useful this show would've been to me as a christian/atheist teen dating a muslim in highschool. We would sit on the phone and watch TV together and looking back I wonder how many of our arguments were in part borne from having irrelevant nonsense like Friends one tree hill and whatever the gently caress trash we were watching. Hell, would've also been nice just having it around so other kids in school would at least do a little better culturally than calling her Mexican or Arab as it suited them, with neither ever being correct. There was never anything on TV really about some stuff we had issues with, like the struggle of trying to adhere to islam's rules but also do the stuff people like to do. If nothing else it would've helped me understand her struggle a little better, who knows many times we'd get into some bizarre circular fight about us doing non-intercourse sex and how that's not okay either and good lord how many times was I the one picking that fight just because I didn't understand and was a dipshit with no perspective.

Sorry for the personal rambling but it's a good show and it was firing off ancient neurons I wish was firing in the ancient times.

Also watched Freaks and Geeks recently, every episode felt like it's own coming of age movie and it was cool to see the entire cast of every Judd Apatow movie as babies. Like the opposite of Ramy in terms of relatability, but a ridiculously solid highschool show, really bizarre it only got one season. Someone else mentioned to me recently mentioned they were sick of being recommended Schitt's Creek, and I wound up watching it now and then and I could not relate less to any of the main family, but it's funny anyway. Plus I like thinking Jennifer Goines owning this motel is just an extra chapter of 12 Monkeys.

Khanstant fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Feb 1, 2021

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Big Mean Jerk posted:

You hear him weakly say a few garbled words over comms and then it cuts to him just silently bleeding from his nose. If I didnít know better Iíd say they just cut whatever scene was originally shot and cg faked a quick death. It really sucks for the character, but thatís the price you end up paying when the actor turns out to be a predator.

On the bright side, that's a sudden and horrible thing that happens to lots of folks without any real closure or warning, and isn't something they often do in shows, since most writers and characters have some more dramatic and meaningful ways for folks to go out. I suppose this is a pretty dim bright side given they probably aren't trying to work in a message about sudden-unexpected-deaths like that or anything, just trying to hustle passed the dropped creep. Still, strokes are scary, that could be something.


Was trying to watch an old SNL episode and was greeted with:

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Instantly get 3 free credits to watch locked content.

Wow! Never expected to see the lovely business model from shady downloads sites and junky stock assets websites would make its way to streaming video. Won't be long before we need to log in to the peacock every day to collect our daily reward credit tokens.

Khanstant fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Feb 3, 2021

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Open Source Idiom posted:

I mean, the only one that'll possibly win is The Crown.

Lovecraft Country seems like it's in a different league than these other stream fillers.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
I'll withhold judgement until we confirm whether or not it's set around haunted settlers or not.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
You know, I just always assumed he was wearing one of those little Burger King paper crown type things they used to give to kids. Whoopee cap is actually kind of interesting, guess they just didn't;'t do a good job drawing it for one. Whoopee caps sound like the next step for all those neckbeard fedoras that supposedly spread around.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Nundizo posted:

https://twitter.com/donaldglover/status/1324796791649435649

Still think about this tweet..

He really can't blame anyone when it does not meet or exceed these expectations.

Only saw the first couple of episodes and I'd put it above Sopranos, of which I barely finished the first episode a decade ago. Keep meaning to restart and finish Atlanta though.

I think knowing how Sopranos ends just kills the non-motivation I have to watch it. I know I could easily interpret it as him finally getting what's coming but if they're going to try and make me ride a mafia media with this character i want to see him ruined

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

abelwingnut posted:

i just hate all media that revolves around the mob or mafia or whatever. v :) v

it's so cheesy and tired and stupid.

Yeah, it's just not a setting/theme I enjoy. Tons of "really great" movies and such about em, but when watching 'em I'm always wishing it was about something else. Godfather I glaze over like that door shutting in my face, in my mind, everytime the mafia boys are doing mafia stuff.

Shageletic posted:

Sopranos makes you ruminate about toxic masculinity, toxic families, being toxic, etc. Atlanta doesn't have those aims I think (maybe I need to rewatch the eps).

Just being online has me ruminating enough about those thing 24/7.

I can just say "Sopranos is good" without bothering to watch it, like, I'm sure Citizen Kane is very good and it's Very Important that someone finally figured out camera angles or whatever but if I'm actually going to sit down and watch a movie right now, I'm going for Parasite or 100 other good movies I ain't seen yet, regardless of their eventual historical significance.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Simone Magus posted:

I wasn't addressing anyone in particular.

Nobody thinks wildly different shows should maybe not be compared? I'm really crazy for thinking that? I don't compare RPGs to FPS games, I don't compare rap to death metal, saying that the Sopranos or Atlanta are

I just realized how pointless this post is, lol. Nobody's gonna agree with it or anything and I'm just gunna end up feeling bad. Never mind

That's not an unusual stance to take, I don't think anyone here would be comparing the two if Donald Glover didn't set the stage for it, and that stage is an arena for "best TV shows period" and Sopranos is one of the ones people throw in that ring. "Best art list" is certainly a foolish endeavor suited only for hierarchical-dependent apes, so all sorts of things end up fighting other things that don't make much sense.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Wait what's this show about the arctic marine biologists, I'm sold.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Open Source Idiom posted:

No, sorry, it's ACTUALLY about Antarctic marine biologists, and I've decided you wouldn't like it.

gently caress the antarctic. Buncha shitbirds making GBS threads everywhere getting eaten by pokemon god forgot to finish drawing legs for, all taking place around earth's frozen rear end in a top hat. Yuck. Meanwhile Arctic popping off with wild apes, bears with cola for blood, cool birds, and they even got some plants for extra drama

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Nundizo posted:

Donald just posted this to his instagram story



Huh. Seems a bit too soon to me, but could be interesting. Will and Jada are young enough to still play themselves if they wanted I reckon

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
I like The Mick. It reminds me of AP Bio without the redeeming kids, or rich-family-IASIP since every character is irredeemably bad and it's fun to see bad things happen to them.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Big Mean Jerk posted:

I just finished a Mick rewatch and Iím angrier than ever that it was cancelled. Thereís only one or two mediocre episodes in the whole show and the entire cast was really firing on all cylinders in season 2. They didnít even shop it around to other networks/streaming! They just killed it!

You canít even hope for a revival because the two boys have already aged out of the roles.

Oh drat, I hadn't even looked at how many seasons it had or heard it got canned. It popped up on Hulu for me one day, thought it was new/ongoing! Speaking of aging out of roles, I think it was only in season 2 or some episode where they actually showed her in a high school that I realized she was supposed to be a high school student. That actress is nearly 30 lol. Obviously, par for the course for TV teens, but it's still amusing to me when someone has basically my same ancient birthday and is still playing a kid on TV.

That makes me 3/3 for the TV shows I've watched lately getting cancelled despite still having momentum. Schitt's Creek, Kim's Convenience, The Mick. Well poo poo, might as well pile on, what other newish comedy show is brilliant and cancelled-too-soon from the past year or two? Maybe time for a Last Man on Earth re-watch

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Trying to check out some of these cancelled shows but drat it's annoying to find legal streams these days. Still, my least favourite event is clicking a "working" link to an episode but just kidding they want you to sign in with a cable provider, like gently caress, im not texting my mom to see if she remembers her cable information to watch a drat show. Also Paramount plus, you're pathetic, come on, knock it off lets get real.

Detroiters funny so far, I like tim Robinson

Shageletic posted:

The Mick was the best network comedy in years. drat shame it didnt get renewed.

Couldn't believe what they got away with.

I had to run to the toilet during this vomit-beer scene, I was just paying too much attention too close to the TV when I already had indigestion. I was gagging so hard, really wasn't expecting that degree of gross humor on what is otherwise kind of a "friendly" show.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Yeah I was going to rephrase that, it's far from "clean comedy" but until that moment I wasn't really geared for gross-out humour. It got me good! I was cracking up after I got the Hot Mouth under control.

I hadn't seen chip's sandwhich yet and looked it up and holy lol. I was almost expecting worse the way he was dancing around. I still handle knives like they're... loaded knives? I hate being cut or seeing my own bones, never cutting myself again, gently caress you bread.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Detroiters was hilarious. Think it coulda gone for a few more seasons, but hey, I Think You Should Leave took some of the funniest poo poo and ran with it so that's alright.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Chairman Capone posted:

Yeah, for a low-budget Netflix alt-comedy show that has about 90 minutes total screentime, it's a testament to its quality that I Think You Should Leave has the cultural relevance that it does.

Tim Robinson's appearances on Comedy Bang Bang and Tim Heidecker's Office Hours are very solid, too.

Was he on the TV show or the radio? I need to check those out either way, he's been hilarious on Office Hours.

Started watch Nora from Queens. It's pretty funny, been a few episodes where I was feeling like Nora needed a broad-city kind of foil but it grew on me as-is. I think grandma is the most hilarious part though, that actress kills that role.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
I know what kind of people live in this country now and frankly I'll be fine never being in crowded places with them ever again. These people will kill you any chance they get.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

GreenNight posted:

I don't understand how people in the military can opt out. It's the loving military.

It's the military, the main thing they ever do is get soldiers killed.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Not all of them are dumb, some are just morally bankrupt.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Chairman Capone posted:

This is like two years late, but I started watching See on Apple+. All I knew about it was that it was made fun of for being the "Game of Thrones ripoff" among Apple+'s original launch slate and that's it. After seeing Momoa on Justice League and then watching Aquaman, and since I already have Apple+ for For All Mankind and Servant, I decided to give See a shot too.

It's pretty good. I'm only on the fourth episode so maybe it shits the bed later, but I think the worldbuilding and acting alike are good. Not really Game of Thrones at all, outside of Momoa being vaguely barbarian and an evil queen (who admittedly does have some ridiculous sex scene gratuity). Honestly, Momoa's acting kind of surprises me. There are a few issues I have with it (the inconsistent aging of characters and use of sight-based metaphors) but on the whole it's a fine use of an hour a night to watch.

Anyway, doesn't seem like anyone really remembers this show even exists, or that there's anything on Apple+ other than FAM and Ted Lasso, but that's my endorsement of it.

Is "see" the name of the show? If so, I can see that being a problem to memory and discovery. Y'all see See? Naw cici's sucks.

Curious what your issue is with sight-based metaphors? edit: Ohhhh it's about people who ain't see, never mind, makes sense after watchin trailer

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Started watching Superstore. Liking it so far, but what's up with the season 1-2 jump? Ends on a cliffhanger but doesn't pick up until episode 2. First episode of season 2 couldn't have even happened chronologically. Just wondering if they bumped it from the first season or they wanted their season premiere to just be a standalone goofin' episode.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
I quoted Season 4/5 a lot last year, mostly to myself, because I need more of that stimmy-mummy

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
It has also has no real die hard fans, even people who like it seem to be acutely aware of it's issues. They also could've told the book's story twice over by now. Makes me glad Good Omens got wrapped up in one go. Still, if nothing else, the Anansi scene in a vacuum is a really incredible scene to share. If only the rest of the show maintained the same strength. I did like all the gods-arrive-in-america scenes.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

idk, just keep seeing this card on Hulu and keep momentarily thinking it's a werewolf thing and instead it is just some dumb poo poo about some shady company

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Hotel was a "skip season" for me after the metal spike rape. No offense but I hate to see it. I wonder though if I'm ready to watch the trump season yet, skipped that one as well but the imagery of cheeto face paint stuck with me.

Speaking of cheetoes, nearing the final few seasons of Superstore. Really liking store-brand Office, especially the overarching unionization storyline, just nice to hear that sort of poo poo in media and really tackles the main thing I'd find distasteful about watching Walmart Office. Favourite part of the show though is just the customer interstitials. Between scenes, jus ta shot of shoppers casually doing wild stuff. Chucking trash in an easter display with a live rabbit, raw dogging some product in the aisle, someone just taking stuff out of another's cart, etc. I'd almost watch a whole show of just increasingly bizarre casual public behaviour.

Also been watching Frasier now and then and its filled with all sorts of bad 90s psychology and relationship norms. as a kid i remember it just being a little boring, but now its a lot sleazier than i remember. frasier is a creep and also not a good whatever-his-profession-is-supposed-to-be

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Simone Magus posted:

It's harder to enjoy Q knowing how much of a tool John de Lancie is

Q is kind of a tool. I can see Q getting caught up in some weird drama, just trying to shake some bucks from weird bronies.

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Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Ramy Season 2 deals with some light cousin incest. I'd root for them as a couple if Ramy wasn't such a turd weasel-boy.

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