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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer

feedmyleg posted:

The creator may be a huge chud, but I'll be damned if the intro/theme song for the Dilbert show isn't really goddman good.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpivIYJFjd4

That's because Elfman reused the theme from Forbidden Zone.

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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

muscles like this! posted:

Man, Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany are SO GOOD in Wandavision.

Olsen especially surprised me- I'd never seen her in comedy before but she does the quirky sitcom wife thing like, perfectly.

Also the supporting cast is uniformly great too. (I mean, especially Kathryn Hahn, but also everyone else.)

Some say it's moving too slowly (probably the reason they released the first two episodes at once, to assure everyone "this is going somewhere"), but I'd happily watch all these people just do a retro sitcom pastiche with occasional weirdness for a whole year.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
It's the old "new shows attract more subscribers" idea.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Aw drat, Mira Furlan died.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

oh jay posted:

It definitely is more applicable to literature than it is to film. It "costs" time, paragraphs or pages, to talk about a gun hung on a wall. In TV and cinema, you can have a gun on the wall and not talk about it at all. At the same time, if every scene transition into the room has a lingering shot on the gun, you drat well better fire it, or show a flashback about why it's there or something like that.

Wasn’t it quite literally about theater and specifically set/stage instructions in plays? If you write in a script that there’s a gun on the mantle, the props department has to find or buy a prop gun, and that’s an expenditure that they have to make, so don’t force them to do that unless the gun actually has a purpose.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

IRQ posted:

Yes, though I don't know that a whiny prop department was the reasoning. Anyway, it's the same reason you shouldn't have scenes in a tv show or movie that don't serve any purpose, and the poster that brought it up was talking about Shadow and Bone, which probably had a fair few of those.

I mean it’s not whiny, if you read plays a lot of them do have very detailed stage notes and there’s no point restricting the designers/set decorators with something that’s merely a bit of detail.

It makes sense as a general metaphor but I do honestly think Chekhov was saying “stop telling these folks how to do their job, the set will look fine, just say what needs to be there.”

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Shneak posted:

For some reason I thought it was dropping weekly. Watched half the season tonight. The writing is extremely 30 Rock and Renee Elise Goldsberry is so loving funny.

Yeah she kinda dominates. Has Jane Krakowski's flair for the absurd.

"As well as my love of all things humor."

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

It’s not like Scalia needed any influencing to rubber stamp human rights violations. He was going to rule in favor of what Dick Cheney wanted, that was his entire thing. His entire career was making rulings that favored conservatives and inventing whatever justification he wanted for it, all while claiming constitutional originalism.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Yeah Ferguson had a "we're just hanging out here" vibe which can be really fun. A huge bit of the talk show gig is trying to make things feel natural even though it's an incredibly unnatural setup.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
See to me that scene is illustrative of how to a lot of folks, including tweens/teens, the sauce thing was still just a funny thing on a TV show and it’s not like poisoned by what a bunch of morons did in the wake of a McDonald’s publicity stunt. They’re kids, it’s a funny thing they saw. But is it necessarily better/more mature (or even necessary, period) to let our experience of art be dictated by the worst people?

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Yeah Peacock are pretty content starved.

The movie selection is particularly thin. They have The Creature Walks Among Us, the third Creature from the Black Lagoon movie, but not the first two.

Though they are the only streaming service with Phantasm II.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Oh yeah and most of the SNL episodes on Peacock are heavily chopped down, some to under a half hour.

I demand to see the weird Francis Ford Coppola-directed George Wendt episode in its entirety dammit!

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Ah see when I saw ads for “Dr. Death” I assumed it was about Kevorkian.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Part of that's a money thing but there's also the problem that it's just a hard show to make since it works like an anthology. Every episode (or two if you do a two-parter) you need new locations, new sets, and a new supporting cast. It's a very hard show to keep on schedule.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Google Butt posted:

Oh yeah now I remember why Rosa Salazar owns, she was Alita

She has some serious talent. That movie would not have worked if she weren't just charming as hell.

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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Yeah looks fine. I don’t see how the show will benefit from live action at all but I’ll probably at least watch the first episode.

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