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MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Open Source Idiom posted:

Watching Extracurricular based on Esco and esperterra's recommendations in the thread, but I gotta ask, did anyone else find the official Netflix subtitles to be really quite poor? The grammar's atrocious, to the point where some sentences flat out don't make sense.

Extracurricular is an extremely weird show already so it never caught my attention.

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MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

OldSenileGuy posted:

If you havenít watched Cobra Kai yet, then what the hell are you waiting for? Itís the most ridiculously over the top fun show Iíve seen in years.

Unless you watched the movies constantly when you were a kid, I would recommend watching The Karate Kid, then Cobra Kai seasons 1 & 2, then Karate Kid Part II, then Cobra Kai season 3.

Rewatching the movies isnít strictly necessary, but youíll definitely get more out of the show in terms of understanding in-jokes and small moments if the movies are fresh in your head.

I'm going to add to this that Karate Kid 3 had the absolute best Rifftrax since it's an absolutely insane movie.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Simone Magus posted:

Devil was pretty good

Is that the one with the elevator...?

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Holy poo poo is episode 1 of Ted Lasso wholesome.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Ted Lasso is like the anti-soap opera. It's just sweet and charming all the way through.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Started watching Search Party since it's all anyone is posting about anymore. By episode 3 I was all 'how does this show have multiple seasons' but by the season finale it was more :magical:.

MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Jan 26, 2021

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

isaboo posted:

Yeah. How it all unfolds is bonkers.

Between that and Servant I've been doing a lot of :stonk: myself

Reached the S2 finale and :stonk:

How have I never heard about this show before??

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Wow season 4 of Search Party sucks.



EDIT: To clarify, I think I might just be allergic to drawn out kidnapping and abuse plots with no end in sight.

MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Jan 28, 2021

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Inspector 34 posted:

I never thought I wanted a Chantal episode but it's kind of amazing.

I hate it and I hate the producer for not grabbing the director by the ear when they suggested doing it. How has a show I had never even heard about until a few days ago managed to succumb to its own hype.

I have a lot of issues with this season.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

zoux posted:



Three and a half hours

What?

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Season 4 ruined the show for me.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Open Source Idiom posted:

Ahuh. HOWEVER! You wouldn't have known about it unless you read the posts by the people watching Season Four.

So really, Season Four made the show for you. And THEN ruined it.

I flew too close to the sun. :negative:

Is there going to be a fifth?

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

All reality shows are rigged.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

muscles like this! posted:

This week's The Expanse: lol at how they wrote off Cas Anvar

loving incredible, very unintentionally hilarious. The quick wrap-up scene with Holden too like wow. Might as well have been the Poochie-scene jesus. Ahahahaha.

Dear future showrunners, just re-cast.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011


The Guest is such a good and underappreciated movie.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Sirotan posted:

Do not watch that clip if you've never seen The Guest bc it spoils basically the entire movie.

And if you have not seen The Guest, what is wrong with you, go watch it right now

The Guest is truly a hidden gem.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

muscles like this! posted:

I was thinking today about how I get annoyed when a show I've been liking gets retooled halfway through its first season/between first and second. So I was wondering, has there been a show where being retooled actually made it better? The examples I can think of are all worse.

Legends of Tomorrow had one of the worst first seasons of all time, then in season two they completely flipped the tone.

I guess The Last Ship kinda qualifies.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Dark Matter had an absolutely awful first season. Bad season-plot, bad directing and embarrassing action scenes. The Pilot especially.

It got better in season 2, it might even have been good in season 3. But season 1?

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Anyone have anything good or bad to say about Mr. Mayor with Ted Danson? I literally just learned it exists at all.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

I have to say I love how distinctively on brand UK-television Behind Her Eyes is with their HBTQ representation. Literally just Sherlock all over again. I'd call it offensive if not for this being one of the stupidest shows I've watched so far this year.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

No all dubs suck.

Multiple audio tracks is something the entire production has to be structured around for the end-result not to be very mediocre. It's also easier in some mediums than others.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Simone Magus posted:

It sounds like it was written by an "aspiring rap battle star". Almost on purpose?

Eminem?

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Haha oh my god. The infamous oppression olympics scene in Ginny & Georgia is so much better in context. Still very hammy, but motivated hammy.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

mistermojo posted:

the thing I don't understand about The Shield is why Vic needs money for his kids so badly. Wasnt he involved with the gangs and getting his cut? what happened to that? it doesnt really show him wasting money on anything

I'm glad Breaking Bad addressed this.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Anyone watch Warriors (2019)? I'd never heard of the show until yesterday and the first episode was very good. Reminds me a lot of Banshee with the way it styles action and drama.

Linking it in case anyone is curious as the show is pretty much ungoogleable with its name: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt5743796/

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

https://twitter.com/saeedtaji/status/1372949606204649483

Dean Norris continues his role as most cursed actor in TV.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

I don't remeber on which threads recommendation but I've been watching season 1 of Columbo and wow. It's like the anti-murder-mystery.

Every episode goes like this. You get to see the culprit kill the victim and cover up the crime in extensive detail. Then Columbo arrives at the scene, intuits who the likely culprit is within minutes and then spends the remaining 60 minute run-time feigning ignorance while antagonizing and terrorizing the murderer. :allears:

It's great!

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

bull3964 posted:

The Strain was not good TV, but it was fun bonkers TV.

Last season though!

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Also, Columbo owns.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Arist posted:

I'm a little bummed that this means they probably won't be in theaters though.

Theaters still exist?

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Made For Love feels like a budget direct-to-streaming movie broken up into episodes and sucks. I genuinely feel I wasted my time in watching it. While the premise is very creepy most of the comedy lands flat and it just goes nowhere.

Do not watch.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/TheWrap/status/1379476058429399043

Huh turns out Jeopardy fans, who know many facts and statistics, don't like the snake oil salesman

Holy poo poo what were they thinking.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

muscles like this! posted:

MST3K Kickstarter is up
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mst3k/makemoremst3k
Basically Joel wants to forgo the "getting on a streaming service" part of the previous revival and is trying to just make new MST that is audience funded. Same cast as before with production starting pretty quickly after completion of the campaign. The idea being that they're going to make an app with a subscription model with new episodes going up one at a time and a rotating library of older episodes.

I feel this kind of production style is completely out of date and a wasteful use of money. A lot of that money has to be going to stuff that isn't actually very important to the quality of the end-product like I.P. rights, actors and sets. 350 000 $ an episode reeks to me of a bloated production process that is unwilling to prioritize. You can't and you shouldn't run TV-budget without being on TV, it's not sustainable.

The format is entirely,

A: Good writing
B: Good delivery

And everything else is fluff that can and should be skimped upon.

But hey it's not going to be my money so who cares. Clearly a lot of people want to give this another shot.

MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Apr 8, 2021

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Looten Plunder posted:

I just watched the trailer and have a question. I'm going to assume based on the above comment im correct, but the person playing Chad is/was actually a girl yeah? Is it a Pen15 style thing where it's just a creative choice or did TV just get a whole lot more liberal by casting a trans person?

No...?

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1840659/?ref_=tt_cl_t1

I'm very confused.

Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

Nah that's Nasim Pedrad, who was on SNL 5 years ago or so. This is her show, so it's a pen15 thing yea

People liked Pen15?

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Open Source Idiom posted:

Get out while you still can.

Haha, that bad?

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

ShakeZula posted:

This feels like a surprise. Guess I'll have to finally watch S2

https://twitter.com/MichaelAusiello/status/1382393339660677120

Great! Discovered this show just the other month and it's fantastic.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Hakkesshu posted:

The point has been made before about how some rich black creators are using the plights of the lower classes as a form of exploitation media that appeals to white people more than anything, in order to market themselves as being hugely progressive. When Judas and the Black Messiah, also by black creators, came out there was a similar article (I think from the same author, actually), about how itís using black history as essentially a series of aesthetic vignettes without getting at the root of the problem, and mainly being about black suffering without much point to it other than to downplay the real history in favour of turning it into a pop culture prop, essentially.

I think there's definitely something here with portraying the whites of the era as cartoonish monsters with an edge of 'look how bad things used to be' which absolves the racism of today. The show portrays the in-your-face racism that everyone is comfortable with criticizing and dis-associating with. It's a strictly apolitical approach to the issue. Plus, you have the constant almost fetishistic portrayal of race-hatred and race-violence that brings it all way over the top. Just off the top of my head, what is going on with the ghost origin story and what was going on with the cat in the bag sequence. Extremely gratuitous.

It honestly feels ten years out of date in today's political climate. Like what is the whole weird cop sideline? They sideline having a white savior (by the main cop just being nice on account of being bribed) but they then still drift into this weird territory where the police are actually better than the suburbanites. Like imagine the same story but in contemporary America, the main cast would be dead by police before the end of the second episode.

I enjoyed Them, but it's a very dumb show with in my opinion very little to say.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Arist posted:

I haven't seen Them and don't plan to. Everything you guys are saying makes total sense but still, going "if you enjoyed this show at all you have a lot of anti-black poo poo you need to unpack" is... silly?

Very silly.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Personally I feel like the bare-minimum if you're going to make an american show or movie where race violence is the central focal point of the story and setting is that,

A: You can't be afraid of being political
B. There is no white savior character in the story
C: You haven't made almost all your white characters into monsters in skin-suits

Because otherwise it's just another Green Book, Crash or 12 Years where the audience can just disassociate from the awful behavior of the non-black characters and revel in the drama, hate and/or violence being portrayed. Like is said earlier, it becomes fetishistic when pushed past a certain degree. The horror motif in Them almost feels like an excuse to show extreme violence on screen. If you're not making the audience question themselves and you're not questioning the power structures of today, why are you tackling this topic through the medium of entertainment at all.

It's not like it can't be done. I complained in the streaming thread about this years Two Distant Strangers being overly allegorical and having an inherently goofy framing device but it didn't fail on any of the points above. It knows what it wants do and it is better for it. When it emphasizes violence it does it for a reason beyond shocking and titillating the audience.

No one has even mentioned yet how the show has a white HBTQ character seemingly just for set-dressing. Just disappears from the show in the final act. No arc, no resolution, just ah he's gay and now he's driving away.

Them is an okay TV-show, but artistically speaking it is popcorn and I get why some are disappointed. It could have been much more.

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MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011


Nooooo :negative:

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