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AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/1440574744776962054

"I'm here to tell you about the Glass Elevator Initiative."

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AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Calaveron posted:

Yeah but 90s sitcoms were especially blatant. They always follow the same formula too, the episode starts like normal, then they Go To A New Location with All The New And Likeable Characters where they spend 75% of their screentime setting up their relationships, then the original show characters show up again for a minute or two, then the episode ends.

The first thing I think of when I hear “backdoor pilot” is when MacGyver had this entire family of bounty hunters who would one by one that would cross paths with Mac until all of a sudden they all came together for an episode where Mac only showed up at the very end. It felt like the oddest thing because even back then I didn’t understand why anyone who liked watching Mac makeshift gadget his way out of trouble would want to watch a generic crime show.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012


That CG plane looks so bad I legit wondered if this was a doctored screenshot from the game.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

GreenNight posted:

I guess he figured he has to do a reboot since most of the original cast is dead.

Boxleitner isn't and you can be sure he's going to demand a piece of this.

Hell, he could play President Clark since he already played an evil cryptofascist POTUS on Supergirl.

AceOfFlames fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Sep 27, 2021

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

LionArcher posted:

And he’s a right wing major chud so it’s not even really acting for him. He and Mr. Garibaldi would regularly show up on the Michael savage show. Garibaldi even ended up guest hosting for Michael savage at one point before becoming a talk show host on his own right.

Stoked about b 5 though. JMS is legit an awesome writer/geek.

Jerry Doyle had a fascinatingly weird professional life. He got a BS in Aeronautics at Embry-Riddle (possibly the top aviation university in the world) and a pilot license, went on to become a private jet pilot and stockbroker until suddenly he dropped everything at the age of 35 to become an actor. After B5 he pivoted again into chud talk show host. It’s insane.

Fun fact: that one time Garibaldi said that all of society’s problems could be solved with “electric bleachers” instead of electric chairs was something Doyle said in complete seriousness. JMS happened to overhear him and decided to gently caress with him by adding the line to the script.

AceOfFlames fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Sep 28, 2021

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

https://twitter.com/straczynski/status/1442621160529661952?s=21

The creative freedom is definitely great and it’s awesome that he’s being so supported but I can’t help but think of how he got screwed over by Hollywood Accounting last time around (“if a Warner Bros. set burns down in Botswana, they deduct it from B5’s profits”). Wonder if this time he’s getting a piece of the gross (I doubt it).

AceOfFlames fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Sep 28, 2021

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Milo and POTUS posted:

So how did that own him

This was still back in the halcyon days where people still thought chuds had the minimum amount of self-awareness and shame required to be owned.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpbC72kXOsc

Having listened to the original podcast I am definitely intrigued although I am a bit uncomfortable with the fact that they are making this while all the major players are still alive. I wonder how Marty feels about Will Ferrell playing out an apparently magnified personification of his former lack of assertiveness.

Paul Rudd seems to be utterly nailing it, though.

AceOfFlames fucked around with this message at 10:05 on Oct 13, 2021

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

LionArcher posted:

Also people sending this clip to his daughter is super loving gross bad taste. Like what the gently caress people.

Why the gently caress do famous people still have social media

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Seriously, how is Mackenzie Scott the only rich person in the world who figured that out

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

I had never heard of options on actors before. Am I correct in saying that you are essentially paying for the rights to use an actor during a certain period…but you’re not paying them directly? Who are you paying then, their agent? Wouldn’t it be simpler to pay them even if they are not working (insert late capitalist mouth foaming). This sounds asinine.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

theflyingexecutive posted:

No, the actors are getting paid and the agents get their 10% out of that

For TV, the studio wants to make sure they have the actors for as long as the script calls for them, so they set a deal where for year one, the lead gets $1m, then year two, they get $1.5m and so on for however many years and however many principals. No matter how many scenes they’re actually in, they’re held to that contract and can’t go shoot something with a conflicting schedule until they’re released. Because the schedule is yearly and escalates, and due to the delays, FX has paid out two years already and had no idea if paying out a third year would have been worth it because only a handful of episodes have aired so far. Selling the show to another studio lets them recoup their investment and releases them from risk of ballooning cast contracts in the face of a potentially unpopular show. $3m for cast options sounds very low to my production budget brain, but either way, HBO Max or whomever can renegotiate the options based on their risk analysis.

Side note: options contracts are what are currently loving up working conditions on set and why IATSE threatened to strike. Because bigger actors are limited to working on other jobs outside of their contractual obligations, agents negotiate shorter windows for other jobs, so you end up with ridiculous poo poo like a job having to shoot 45 script pages with x actor in four weeks because they have to go back to their optioned job in a month. Because that deadline is so strict, you either have to cut script or shoot 16 hour days to do it.

Got it. Thanks for the explanation!

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

zoux posted:

I can't find the ITYSL thread

https://twitter.com/PageSix/status/1450517999413338113

Kanye doesn't want to be around anymore. He's got too much stuff on.

This Hollow Man remake sucks.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Khanstant posted:

I don't know if I'll make it through all 8 seasons, but so far it hasn't stopped being amazing how just shameless they are in this approach. I once read a fanfiction about a version of Harry Potter who grew up with good parents who were empathetic and logical smartypants who raised a pretunaturally smart Harry Potter who is way into critical thinking and by the end of the book he's revolutionized the entire world and reinvents magic and everyone claps because he solved poverty and healthcare and even that version of OP fanfic harry potter was more reserved in their relative smartinpantsness, Hermione was basically still smarter. Here Spader is like "the fbi works for me now" after one interaction with them but he's not even kidding, they essentially are at his beck and call. It's like he personally was playing a game of calvinball with the writers, whatever script they write, he reads it, then shows up exactly ready to counter every part of it and make it go his own way, no matter how implausible and then the writers have to play catch up and just work around that, try to get him next time. But they never will, he's the one in control, the writers work for him now.

I'm also assuming he will have a moriarty to foil him at some point and I look forward to seeing spader give a smug "heh its all going according to my plan" speech only for his moriarty to be doing the exact same thing a moment later.

I keep popping in and out of Blacklist discussions online and it's just plain bizarre how that show becomes. Some plots have almost Hostel/Human Centipede levels of cruelty to their characters (case in point) whereas everything else is just a horrible convoluted mystery that goes absolutely nowhere. Even the Blacklist subreddit is nothing more than endless screaming. And yet this show keeps going, it's insane.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Gonz posted:

It’s me. I’m the guy who’s still watching The Blacklist, 9 seasons in.

Major character spoiler: Elizabeth Keen was very much shot dead at the end of last season, and as such, being dead and all, won’t be returning to the show. Half the conceit of the show is now gone, though Spader as Reddington is basically all anyone should need to keep watching.

To say nothing about how they managed to write themselves into a corner with the whole "James Spader is not the real Raymond Reddington" revelation. The creator clearly wanted to reveal that Spader is actually Keen's mother having undergone plastic and gender reassignment surgery and Keen's death scene seems to all but directly say it but I'm guessing that proved a bridge too far for NBC (unlike stuff like that Human Centipede-eque abortion episode) and now that said creator left the show, they will probably just drop it.

AceOfFlames fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Oct 29, 2021

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

STAC Goat posted:

Huh. I had a very wrong impression of the kind of show Blacklist was.

Yeah, turns out it’s an extraordinarily dumb show.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Medullah posted:

Predicting that Walt poisoned Brock in the live watch thread and people saying "No loving way" is my greatest accomplishment in life!

Ironically Bryan Cranston wasn’t told that until that season’s finale, meaning he played Walt’s excuse speech when Jesse confronted him as completely sincere. Which is kind of brilliant since it further underscores just how masterful a liar Walt is, even to himself.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Metropolis posted:

I had no idea they changed showrunners after s4, that explains so much. I agree that the good seasons are 1, 2, and 4, with 4 being my fave. 4 felt like it could have been a very good ending to the series overall.

Dexter Seasons 6-9 were run by Scott Buck, the guy later responsible for Inhumans and the first season of Iron Fist. That should also explain a lot.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

DaveKap posted:

I had to look it up... this is hilarious. Dude never ran any shows before or after those 3, just producer and writing roles on very few others. I was going to comment on how television poison lasts that long but he's had so few gigs, I almost feel sorry for the guy.

He really needs to find a different job.

Dude shouldn't have gotten a second gig, let alone a third. He's a perfect example of how white males just fail upwards in Hollywood but still screwed up so bad that he managed to be blacklisted even with that massive structural advantage.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Is Yellowjackets supposed to be the genderswapped Lord of the Flies remake they announced a while back which caused a huge internet slap fight over whether or not girls would follow the same path or not?

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Cojawfee posted:

That's why I said to watch it while eating. It's not worth devoting all your attention to it.

I have been noticing lately that I can barely hear any external sounds while I am chewing. Is this normal or am I losing my hearing?

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

If they have a five season plan, maybe Yellowjackets is really a reverse Friday Night Lights where it STARTS with the sudden and bizarre murders and then turns into pure sports drama.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

https://twitter.com/bigdybbukenergy/status/1464689070534234119

https://twitter.com/FrazLugay/status/1464745083681579013?t=OnZ8EGYjviblzDbJHmsu-w&s=19

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AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Everyone is talking about Station Eleven but it's the last thing I want to watch. I don't understand how you can make a "happy" apocalypse show. We have all seen during this pandemic that people are selfish and will let mountains die for their own comforts. How the only people who matter to them are those they have known since childhood and everyone else can go die in a fire. Since I have none of the latter, none of this is relatable to me. What is the appeal, exactly? The delusion that you are one of the lucky few that will make it?

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