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krispykremessuck
Jul 22, 2005

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Doesnt sound any different than 8 years ago when I left other than a CO screaming about the patriarchy.

Getting out is good

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krispykremessuck
Jul 22, 2005

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ElMaligno posted:

i have 9 years to go :(

I’d be retiring next year and left at 11 years almost on the day. It was a rough call at the time but after reading everything all of you have said, plus the few folks I keep in touch with ... nah. A civil service retirement is gonna go a lot further anyway.

I get it tho, and hope all of you can get out on your own / favorable terms as soon as you can

krispykremessuck
Jul 22, 2005

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nwin posted:

loving lol at the whole CG memes thing going down. This isn’t going to end well.

Did someone’s career get nuked for posting memes?

krispykremessuck
Jul 22, 2005

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nwin posted:

Replying to a meme with a meme.

Shamelessly stolen from a subreddit:

A member posted a meme in a comment using Trump. Someone comments on that talking about "supporting your commander and chief, etc." and @'s public affairs, MCPOG, members command etc. They have a back and forth about it. Members command finds out, tells member to remove comments and back and forth. Member does. Member is still told he is getting kicked out for it, at first they will face a board decision, but members command pulls strings at EPM and gets it changed and they are getting booted and will not face a board. CG Memes finds out, post a bunch of memes about toxic commands and gathers stories from people.

Guess the dudes an SK2 with a bunch of years.

Holy moly has something changed about the discharge process where they can just rando do an unsuitability discharge or something?

That really sucks, but the only surprising thing is that it took this long for someone to publicly get kicked out over memes.

drat

krispykremessuck
Jul 22, 2005

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Lmao I’m sorry you guys if it makes you feel any better it’s at least as bad on the civil service (not CG specific) side where I’m at

krispykremessuck
Jul 22, 2005

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nwin posted:

It’s probably the same as it always has been to some degree. Our top people are leaving in favor of better prospects outside the coast guard where they don’t have to move all the time or be treated like a kid.

To a degree, but with where I sit now things have gotten far worse in a completely different service with much more money and [somehow] even more feckless leadership.

Can’t imagine being active duty these days.

Grass is greener as a civilian, but only just. I liked being underway and moving every few years, it was the “being treated like a kid” part that won’t get fixed.

Good on all of you for sticking it out.

krispykremessuck
Jul 22, 2005

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Lmao on my way out the door more than ten years ago the last memo I signed was forwarding a PIO package to cgis for action. Guy at least went to jail for two years but he had a string of allegations going back almost 10 years that just kept getting worse the more people I interviewed.

I made the recommendation in here or elsewhere that the mil hand off UCMJ administration and execution and got laughed at re autonomy but I stand by my recommendation.

Ain’t much better on the outside, but the mil investigating the mil is on par with cops investigating cops

krispykremessuck
Jul 22, 2005

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Steezo posted:

I still think a separate military judiciary is a good idea, but the reasons it's s good idea are also why it won't happen.

So, some of us were laughing because it was that or one more straw of despair on an already overloaded camel.

I got it then and I get it now, but I work for a different service and in a very different capacity. I don’t think the mil is staffed for the work and when I say that I mean I don’t think the average PIO or CGIS SA is frankly up to the task of putting together a durable investigation package.

Mix that up with career concerns of the people doing every bit of this work — to include the way the JAG corps manages performance — and I don’t think this kind of poo poo is particularly surprising. The best “mil autonomy” version looks like an isolated and independent function of some DoD agency that doesn’t exist that can’t solely be uniformed people or else we’re back to career stuff interfering

krispykremessuck
Jul 22, 2005

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nwin posted:

I’m kinda done with this service.

O5 would be nice but being out seems nicer.

I’m going to try and get my CPA with my last two years and see how that goes-first test is scheduled for September so depending how that goes will be the litmus test for if I stay or if I go.

I’m honestly not sure I even need a CPA for what I want to do, but I have the opportunity to try and pursue it so I might as well. I know i don’t want public accounting, but I’m not sure I want to go for a gs12/gs13 gig and stick with the government. I’m going to attend a few IRS road shows and see how that is. There’s a navy base near me too. An entry into a staff accountant or senior accountant position at a company would be doable or potentially FP&A.

CPA can be situationally helpful for GS side if the job you’re interested in is an actual 0510 series job. With your current grade and background you should be able to walk into a 13 or 14 job pretty easily, and definitely competitive for 15s.

That said real 0510 accountant jobs are generally in short supply because you don’t need all your ERP button pressers to be CPAs. Mostly they’re in audit with some notable exceptions.

IRS work sounds really loving grueling and awful.

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krispykremessuck
Jul 22, 2005

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nwin posted:

I haven’t seen a GS leave to get a job in the private sector.

In technical fields it tends to happen quite a bit. It’s why pay bands on weird schedules like STRL and acqdemo became a thing in the late 90s. There is significant braindrain in the technical ends of civil service and in the non-technical side pressure is starting to build because in many locality areas nobody south of a GS-12 can afford to live within 100 miles.

CG has a tiny proportion of the work being done by civilians in comparison to DoD components so it’s probably not as visible.

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