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FreudianSlippers posted:I think the central thesis of It is "What's with all the 50s Nostalgia? Were you even there it was super hosed up, man." A decade has to be hosed up to create a guy like Stephen King. I mean have you SEEN the way the man spells cemetery? Total whacko. Carly Gay Dead Son fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Apr 20, 2021 |
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Skwirl posted:Super loving weird, not as bad as what I've heard about the sewer scene. The girl from the sewer is also observing the JO stuff from her hiding spot terrified at what'll happen if they find her.
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Apr 20, 2021 01:52
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The Klowner posted:Wow! I just want to die! Maybe the refreshing taste of the new Coca Cola with Coffee will make you feel better.
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E: Yeah you know what, this is a horrible topic of discussion.
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Apr 20, 2021 02:32
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Can we just not?
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Apr 20, 2021 02:36
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Skwirl posted:I haven't read It and this is the first time I've heard about the circle jerk, but I'd previously heard of the underage sewer sex, and that had previously been described as a rape scene (I haven't read it, so I don't know if that's an accurate description), which the raunchy CW shows either don't have or are portrayed very differently than the other sex scenes. It’s not a rape scene, Beverly realizes the way to bring the Losers together one last time to overcome It’s influence is to have sex with them. It’s not a gangbang or orgy vibe, it’s part of It’s whole deal with aging and the gap between childhood and adulthood, and for a lot of people the discovery of sex is a pretty big mark of growing up. I get what King was going for with it and he could have written around it and still gotten the point across, but there’s a lot of willful misinterpretation about it.
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Apr 20, 2021 02:54
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X-Ray Pecs posted:It’s not a rape scene, Beverly realizes the way to bring the Losers together one last time to overcome It’s influence is to have sex with them. It’s not a gangbang or orgy vibe, it’s part of It’s whole deal with aging and the gap between childhood and adulthood, and for a lot of people the discovery of sex is a pretty big mark of growing up. I get what King was going for with it and he could have written around it and still gotten the point across, but there’s a lot of willful misinterpretation about it. Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
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Apr 20, 2021 03:25
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CPL593H posted:Cocaine is a hell of a drug. It sure is. Keep in mind, the same year It came out, King also unleashed Maximum Overdrive. He said he had no clue what he was doing because he was coked up the whole time he directed it.
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Apr 20, 2021 03:52
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X-Ray Pecs posted:It’s not a rape scene, Beverly realizes the way to bring the Losers together one last time to overcome It’s influence is to have sex with them. It’s not a gangbang or orgy vibe, it’s part of It’s whole deal with aging and the gap between childhood and adulthood, and for a lot of people the discovery of sex is a pretty big mark of growing up. I get what King was going for with it and he could have written around it and still gotten the point across, but there’s a lot of willful misinterpretation about it. Okay, that still sounds gross and icky and unnecessary in a book about children fighting a clown monster, but way better than what I'd pictured.
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Apr 20, 2021 03:58
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X-Ray Pecs posted:It sure is. Keep in mind, the same year It came out, King also unleashed Maximum Overdrive. He said he had no clue what he was doing because he was coked up the whole time he directed it. Based on the results, we need to get more cocaine back into Hollywood
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Apr 20, 2021 04:04
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Skwirl posted:Okay, that still sounds gross and icky and unnecessary in a book about children fighting a clown monster, but way better than what I'd pictured. It can’t escape the weirdness of an adult man writing about a bunch of pre-teens having sex, but there’s more going on with it than just a sex scene. Just like how It itself is more than just a book about kids fighting a clown monster. Pennywise is shown as not just an evil clown, but as a stand-in for the evils baked into American society via the everytown of Derry, Maine. It’s shown as having a hand in poo poo like a northern offshoot of the Klan burning down a Black nightclub, an abusive father creeping on his own daughter, a homophobic hate crime, and more. It’s a really drat good book and among the best King work I’ve read.
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There is (and this is not a dig at anyone in this thread, ya'll are in general pretty good about not doing this and I haven't seen anyone do this at all in regards to It specifically) a tendency in criticism in general of mistaking media depicting a thing as endorsing it.
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X-Ray Pecs posted:It’s not a rape scene, Beverly realizes the way to bring the Losers together one last time to overcome It’s influence is to have sex with them. It’s not a gangbang or orgy vibe, it’s part of It’s whole deal with aging and the gap between childhood and adulthood, and for a lot of people the discovery of sex is a pretty big mark of growing up. I get what King was going for with it and he could have written around it and still gotten the point across, but there’s a lot of willful misinterpretation about it. I gotta be honest though if Beverly witnessed the head bully get a handjob from the other bully I really can't imagine that's something you'd forget.
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Apr 20, 2021 04:56
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X-Ray Pecs posted:It sure is. Keep in mind, the same year It came out, King also unleashed Maximum Overdrive. He said he had no clue what he was doing because he was coked up the whole time he directed it. Oh I know. My favorite Stephen King thing is that trailer for Maximum Overdrive where you can tell he's coked out of his goddamn mind and it's mostly just him talking about the movie complete with music from Halloween III. Here it is for anyone who hasn't seen that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpXRKIUWnqw
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Apr 20, 2021 06:13
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Skwirl posted:There is (and this is not a dig at anyone in this thread, ya'll are in general pretty good about not doing this and I haven't seen anyone do this at all in regards to It specifically) a tendency in criticism in general of mistaking media depicting a thing as endorsing it. Man, I can't believe forums user Skwirl thinks that critics ought to interpret depiction as endorsement.
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Kazzah posted:Man, I can't believe forums user Skwirl thinks that critics ought to interpret depiction as endorsement. It's always funny when someone I don't know has a beef with me over something I don't remember, but I was trying to say depiction isn't necessarily endorsement. I do apologize if I was unclear on that.
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Apr 20, 2021 06:34
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Your post depicted some critics as interpreting depiction as endorsement
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Apr 20, 2021 06:55
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Kazzah posted:Your post depicted some critics as interpreting depiction as endorsement Yeah, that sometimes happens. Films depict a lot of things, sometimes they depict things the filmmaker thinks are good, sometimes the depict things the filmmaker thinks are bad. Sometimes a filmmaker depicts something they think is bad but people watching it think the filmmaker thinks it's bad and that can either be because the film isn't well made or the person viewing it misinterpreted something. This also applies to books, songs, television any other media. Just PM me with whatever your loving beef is or drop it.
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I'm pretty sure they're just making a joke and not actually looking to settle some weird grudge.
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Roth posted:I'm pretty sure they're just making a joke and not actually looking to settle some weird grudge. This will be the last time I'll bring it up but starting a post with Kazzah posted:Man, I can't believe forums user Skwirl makes it seem personal.
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Skwirl posted:This will be the last time I'll bring it up but starting a post with Forget it, Skwirl, it’s CineD.
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therattle posted:Forget it, Skwirl, it’s CineD. Man, I can't believe forums user therattle would say something that's the complete opposite of what I just quoted.
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Skwirl posted:This will be the last time I'll bring it up but starting a post with Your post depicted (but did not endorse) critics who interpret depiction as endorsement. Humorously, forum user Kazzah pretended to interpret your post as an endorsement of those critics. Everything is chill and good.
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I thought it was a good joke tbh
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Apr 20, 2021 08:42
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Skwirl posted:Man, I can't believe forums user therattle would say something that's the complete opposite of what I just quoted. If you’ve got a beef with me send me a telegram and we’ll arrange a duel.
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THERATTLE STOP UR MOM LOL STOP SAY THAT TO MY FACE NOT ONLINE STOP
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CPL593H posted:Oh I know. My favorite Stephen King thing is that trailer for Maximum Overdrive where you can tell he's coked out of his goddamn mind and it's mostly just him talking about the movie complete with music from Halloween III. Here it is for anyone who hasn't seen that: I love that trailer so much, especially King saying “if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself.” Like Stanley Kubrick, Tobe Hooper, David Cronenberg, John Carpenter, and Brian De Palma weren’t good enough to make Stephen King movies.
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CPL593H posted:Maybe the refreshing taste of the new Coca Cola with Coffee will make you feel better. God, I remember seeing an ad for Coke from the fifties or thereabouts, and the selling point was "Nothing beats a cold winters day like a nice hot steaming cup of Coke."
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Hot Dr Pepper is, or at least was, a regional preference in the American South.
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Terra Formars is a very silly movie I think some of you will enjoy. Or hate. Or both.
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MacheteZombie posted:Terra Formars is a very silly movie I think some of you will enjoy. Or hate. Or both. How does it integrate the explanation of animal abilities? Is it in dialogue or does it have little documentary cutaways?
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Apr 20, 2021 15:10
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Gripweed posted:How does it integrate the explanation of animal abilities? Is it in dialogue or does it have little documentary cutaways? Cutaways with narration about the bug ability
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MacheteZombie posted:Cutaways with narration about the bug ability Sold.
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Pirate Jet posted:THERATTLE STOP STOP STOP Davros1 posted:God, I remember seeing an ad for Coke from the fifties or thereabouts, and the selling point was "Nothing beats a cold winters day like a nice hot steaming cup of Coke." I feel the same about gravy.
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Anonymous Robot posted:Hot Dr Pepper is, or at least was, a regional preference in the American South. I grew up in Texas and I’ve never encountered this in real life.
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Anonymous Robot posted:Hot Dr Pepper is, or at least was, a regional preference in the American South. As if I needed more reasons to dislike the south
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Anonymous Robot posted:Hot Dr Pepper is, or at least was, a regional preference in the American South. I think what happened here is, somewhat told you a very obvious lie as a joke, but you just believed it.
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Davros1 posted:God, I remember seeing an ad for Coke from the fifties or thereabouts, and the selling point was "Nothing beats a cold winters day like a nice hot steaming cup of Coke." What the gently caress is that poo poo? Anonymous Robot posted:Hot Dr Pepper is, or at least was, a regional preference in the American South. This makes more sense because it's the south. Gripweed posted:I think what happened here is, somewhat told you a very obvious lie as a joke, but you just believed it. How can you even tell at this point?
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I am a huge fan of Dr. Pepper and willing to try the hot version and report back. Please someone with insider knowledge let me know the optimal temperature, I want to give this experiment a fair attempt.
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Gripweed posted:I think what happened here is, somewhat told you a very obvious lie as a joke, but you just believed it.     
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