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Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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Is the title of The Killing Joke a reference to the band? If so, I hope comic books stick around long enough for there to be a comic titled "Spiderman: The Sultan of Swing."

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Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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X-Ray Pecs posted:

I don't read nerd poo poo like comics, I read poo poo like Ursula K. Le Guin's The Dispossessed, a sci-fi book about a physicist from an anarchist society visiting his sister planet's propertarian society.

Love Le Guin, but it’s funny to see how she went from like the sci fi author that “people who aren’t nerds” read, to the focal point of an entire nerd subculture.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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Baron von Eevl posted:

We've been reading Catwings to my 4 year old and she's enthralled. They're not exactly genius on the level of Le Guin's other work but I always appreciate it when an author has that broad of a selection of work.

I haven't read it but I can imagine Le Guin wrote great stuff for kids. There is a wholesomeness that pervades her work, a faith in humanity. Even when she writes something like the scene X-Ray Pecs alluded to, it's never salacious or cruel, it comes from a genuinely philanthropic outlook and real horror at what society can lead people to do. She's an honest, heartfelt writer, and has the sense not to offer any clear answers.

CPL593H posted:

I'd heard the book was all kinds of stuff about defying gender but I was disappointed because the book doesn't really do all that much with it and every character is still referred to as male.

She wrote it over 50 years ago, when the mere presentation of an alternative to traditional gender roles, even in fiction, was a bold act.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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I'd rather get bit by just about anything than get sprayed by a skunk.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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pospysyl posted:

Midsommar's pretty obvious, showing a conflict between individualists and an extreme form of collectivism. The opening scene lays out the men's philosophies: they want to devote themselves to personal betterment, whether that be developing their careers, producing academic knowledge, or just pursuing individual pleasure. The village they visit demonstrates collective ideology. The village shares literally everything, even emotional expression. The elderly are sacrificed for the collective whole and even reproduction is regulated communally. Grounding collectivism in the primitive and irrational is a particularly Randian touch, as is connecting sexual impotency to collectivism. In Atlas Shrugged, Rand argues that a weak person or a collectivist can neither give nor receive true sexual pleasure. The village's corruption of the sex act follows this, as is Mark's susceptibility to that corruption.

Hereditary, on the other hand, shows a typical conflict between irrational superstition and stable rationality, but what makes it particularly Randian is the gender context. Anne Graham is vulnerable to irrational flights of fantasy because of her emotional weakness. Her desperation to see her dead daughter again is what allows her to get tricked into summoning a demon into the house. The supernatural is inherited through the women of the family, from Graham's mother to Graham herself to her daughter. Graham's husband, on the other hand, is utterly stoic and rational, invulnerable to the lure of superstition. Rand believed that this distinction was a universal gendered one, with vulnerability to superstition being a distinctive feminine trait. Of course, in Hereditary, engaging with the supernatural leads to destruction. Of course, Rand's not the only philosopher to believe in gendered traits. I honestly wouldn't identify it as Randian if I hadn't seen Midsommar, but because Midsommar is so pointedly an examination of Objectivism that it's natural to use the same lens on Hereditary.

In both cases, there's enough nuance and ambiguity to complicate the ideas being explored. In Hereditary, Toni Collette's superstition isn't actually that irrational because it turns out that demons and the afterlife are real. While her husband is a source of stability, that stability is utterly insufficient and crumbles pretty easily. The son is a pretty good challenge to gender norms as well, as his sensitivity is portrayed as a positive if unusual trait. In Midsommar, whether or not the individualist way of life is actually superior to a more collective form is challenged. None of the guys are really great prizes and Dani has real problems that can't be resolved in an individualist context. In both movies it's more of an engagement with Objectivist philosophy than it is a simple portrayal of it.

I did detect something of an anti-socialist current throughout Midsommar, at first. Mostly because it was a whole movie of "lol look how weird these Swedes are". But then I came to the conclusion that it wasn't a denunciation of socialism, so much as an attempt to use extreme images of collectivist behavior to terrify an audience of insular millennial narcissists. I know next to nothing about Ayn Rand, but I don't think Ari Aster is working from an objectivist perspective so much as he's working from the same classic Greek sort of perspective that Rand herself probably worked from. A lot of what you point out about his movies' sexual politics is by no means exclusive to Ayn Rand.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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ruddiger posted:

I watched the John Carpenter written western El Diablo last night. I used to watch it all the time as a kid, it doesn’t quite hold up (way too long and Anthony Edwards is a terrible lead) but it’s got a great supporting cast and a couple of cool scenes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOCakZSHljI

I never heard of this. I always appreciate a middling 90s HBO western. Have you seen The Last Outlaw?

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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Alec Eiffel posted:

Sorkin my own dick.

Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip? How bout SPF 60 on my Sunburnt Dick?!

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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Library was giving away DVDs. Peep this fuckin haul.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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Baron von Eevl posted:

I've always wanted to do a Jekyll and Hyde movie with Ron Perlman and Tom Waits.

I think this would be a Hyde and Hyde movie.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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Baron von Eevl posted:

My idea is that the evil Dr. Jekyll wants to cause havoc so he develops an elixir to make himself giant, but it turns him into the gentle and good-natured Mr. Hyde who must try to figure out a way to fix the terrible things Jekyll has done before he reverts.

I like it. Just tweak it so it’s about the covid vaccine and call it Dr. Johnson and Mr. Johnson.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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I watched 4 minutes of this and all the goodwill I felt towards Australians after watching Muriel's Wedding has been completely washed away by these boys and their piss antics.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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If I was a famous actor, I would absolutely lie about getting hairplugs, because I imagine it’s really fun to lie to the public about harmless poo poo that’s none of their business.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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[barely forming words through a pair of grotesquely bloated lips] i started eating goji berries.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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An Iceland rodeo? I’d buy that for a dollar.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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ynohtna posted:

Who wants a cheap laugh?

Watch this until the first name drop at 13 seconds in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWS-Ncglt-Y

:D

Name rules, and so does the whole intro sequence. Kind of my favorite aesthetic.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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ynohtna posted:

My comrade! :hfive:

It’s like clearly trying to ape the James Bond type of intro but it’s somehow way more charming.

Magic Hate Ball posted:

The earlier episodes, which are hosted by Roald Dahl and based off of his stories, are really good.

“Hello, I’m Roald Dahl. In this episode of Tales of the Unexpected, a Jew tips a waitress.”

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I'm still baffled by that. Why not just get Richard Kind? He's younger than my dad, it's not like he's retired from acting.

Because then you'd have to cast Larry David as Batman.

Wait, gently caress, I just made the idea even better.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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^^drat you alfred p pseudonym. If that IS your real name.

Skwirl posted:

I'm pretty sure the real reason Arnold was as big as he was is because he did Terminator. If the Rock wants to be a proper star he needs to play a villain at least once.

The Rock is a superstar and he did play a villain in Doom. It was bad. Maybe the thing he needs to do is play a villain in a good movie but let’s don’t hold our breaths.

If he’s as much an icon as Schwarzenegger, I don’t know, it’s arguable but ultimately a moot point. Stardom is completely different than it was in the 80s. Maybe once the Rock runs for office, we’ll be able to say. But until that horrible day, The Rock is The Rock and Arnold is Arnold. They’re both muscly dumb dumbs! The main difference isn’t in their artistic output, it’s that Arnold had an accent that people could make fun of. People try to do the Rock and they sound like they’re doing Obama.


And Bautista is a cool dude and the only the wrestler/actor I wanna meet now that Andre’s gone.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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teagone posted:

It's not arguable, you crazy person lol.

Well, look who's arguing about it, numb-nuts!!


But you're right. It strikes me personally as silly to suggest that The Rock is anywhere near Arnold, except perhaps in terms of the box office draw they represent, but I'm pushing 30. Does Arnold mean poo poo to today's 13 year old? As much as the Rock does? I can't say because I'd never speak to anyone that age.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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I worked on an Aronofsky set and let me tell you and i poo poo you not, I am lucky to be alive.

Not because the set was dangerous or anything, I’m just practicing gratitude.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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Some good reading here for you fine people:

https://www.screenslate.com/articles/yo-dude-its-abel-abel-ferraras-cinema-village

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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Skwirl posted:

Yeah, plus a bunch of footage for a videogame no one played

I loved that game. I only ever rented it though.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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CPL593H posted:

I remember just before the second film came out there was a rumor that it would have a cliff hanger ending which revealed that what we knew as "the real world" was a Matrix within the Matrix. I can't decide if that would have been better or worse than what we got but either way, holy poo poo was that last movie a bloated mess.

They should have done this for the second movie and called it Matrixes.

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

It's because they flip the metaphor. The first film is basically just a conspiracy thriller with time-travel elements: the present is being colonized by aliens from the future, reptilian shapeshifters control government agencies, etc.

With the sequel(s), we have a perspective shift where the characters live in a postapocalyptic future-world and play fantasy MMORPGs all day. It's Ready Player One.

gently caress. gently caress.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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Steve Yun posted:

We were lucky that the first major Hollywood superhero movie was so good.

Donner, Puzo and Mankiewicz had already solved the problem of am overpowered superhero: make internal conflict the main conflict

Lex Luthor was not the real antagonist of the film. Superman always had the power to beat Luthor, but was holding back. He was holding back because of the real antagonist, listening to his biological dad

I’m not sure which sentence upsets me more: the first (implying that we are lucky that major Hollywood superhero movies exist) or the last (viciously dadphobic).

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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Steve Yun posted:

1. Most of them suck but it’s good that the first one sets a high bar

2. In the climax he has to decide between listening to his biological dad or his stepdad, movie is still pro-dad

I was just goofing with the second point, but I still think “lucky” was the wrong word to use.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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So I watched Funny Games (1997). It was not very funny at all! Kinda messed up actually! Jeez.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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Gripweed posted:

I saw that at the store and thought about picking it up. Thanks for the warning, I'll give it a pass.

Yeah if you’re looking for just like some people doing funny games, steer clear! Not even in English!!!

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Palate cleanser: Watch The Wrong Guy starring Dave Foley & Jen Tilly

Great movie. Excellent performance from Colm Feore. But apparently there’s another movie called Funny Games from 2007. I’m gonna go ahead and watch that now. Not getting my hopes up but I mean that other one set the bar so low as far as delivering actually funny games, I can’t imagine it not being an improvement.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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Samuel Clemens posted:

You should definitely do a scene-by-scene comparison of the two Funny Games.

Goofing aside, Funny Games was really good but I have no interest in watching it again or its remake.

I decided to watch De Palma's Body Double afterwards, and in a strange way it was kind of the perfect palette cleanser. Funny Games was all "you should feel bad about watching violence" and Body Double was the "ah don't be so hard on yourself, ya dirty pervert, it's all in good fun" I needed. I don't know exactly why but the opening scene to the porno set to Relax was one of the most delightful sequences I've seen. Excellent movie. Really glad I finally caught up on my Hitchcock before seeing it.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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Watched Blow Out maybe a year ago. Loved it. Dennis Franz is a treasure.

Muriel’s Wedding rules too.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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Anonymous Robot posted:

In Army of the Dead, the zombies sometimes spew sparks when they get shot, which eventually led to me being confused as to whether or not it was supposed to be a reveal that they were androids or something.

This was confirmed. Frame by frame analysis reveals that several of the zombies are blue-blooded androids with metal skeletons. As for why and what it means, it’s anyone’s guess. Probably just fuckery.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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Shark Tale, you gently caress! Shark Tale!

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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Detective No. 27 posted:

I want to strangle you.

Now let me ask: did you want to strangle OP for fooling you into thinking Will Smith died? Or for making a joke of Big Bill Smith’s death? Both are valid reasons, I’m just curious.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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Voodoofly posted:

It’s shameful how many of you haven’t seen Inside Man. That might be my favorite Spike Lee Joint of the 00s. And favorite Jodie foster movie of the 00s. And favorite Clive Owen performance. And favorite cinematic hat.

That was a turban. :facepalm:

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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New Soderbergh’s pretty good. Had no idea who Ed Solomon was until now and that is a pretty incredible career he’s got.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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Ccs posted:

This is a pretty crazy use of AI in the new Anthony Bourdain documentary.



Seems like he should have considered the ethics before putting it in the film?

To be fair, Bourdain is a really tough voice to imitate.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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Immence Violense

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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each one of those applause lengths could be accounted for by a single hooting moron standing and clapping for minutes after everyone else has sat down.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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a helpful bear posted:

Don Cheadle's character


Al G. Rhythm

Jesus that’s not even how you pronounce algorithm.

Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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Coffee And Pie posted:

The G is short for Guh

I see. Well then. Carry on, Space Jam 2.

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Carly Gay Dead Son
Aug 27, 2007

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That first suicide squad, man, that was just an attempted suicide squad. A cry for help squad, really. This is THE suicide squad.

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