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TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



So sorry Lurdiak What an awful way to start the year. Sending my best.

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TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



Uncle Boogeyman posted:

I wish I liked Bacarau as much as some people did but it definitely feels like essential viewing.

Same. I struggled to get into it, but the ending was good.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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The movie where who whats now?

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



therattle posted:

Would you mind expanding on the tone of the Chicago 7?

At one point Abbie Hoffman says something like “we have a revolution every four years, when we vote in a new president.”

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Baron von Eevl posted:

I agree, but I wonder how much of that is thinking about it from a modern perspective, with another 20-some Bond movies in the interim. Like Thunderball was only the fourth movie, how entrenched were the Bond Theme cliches at that point? For comparison, I really don't think Live and Let Die works as a Bond theme either despite the main orchestral theme being pretty Bond-y.

Not that entrenched at all. Dr. No begins with the Bond theme song and transitions to some calypso music. From Russia with Love's score is very Bond-esque but does not have a song with lyrics over the opening credits. Goldfinger is really when it gets established that every movie has a pop musician do a theme song, so it could easily have gone off in a different direction.

Though to be fair, as much as Cash's song rules it's less that it doesn't fit the Bond vibe as much as does it even fit Thunderball? Thunderball has "firey breath" but the whole schtick is an underwater theme?

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



I thought Detective Pikachu had its charms but omg Sonic was unwatchable. Just every bad talking animal kids movie trope back to back to back. Not a single laugh or moment of joy to be found. The only saving grace was the credits sequence with the classic Sega style animation. Shoulda just been the whole movie cause everything else was dogshit.

No exaggeration, one of the most miserable experiences I've ever had with a film.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



I'm not above enjoying a kid's movie, but man Sonic was just the laziest poo poo. I feel terrible for those VFX people forced to work overtime on something that was so disposable and utterly lifeless. At least if the studio left homunculus Sonic in it might have had some ironic charm.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



Oh poo poo I gotta do the new Movie of the Month thread still

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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drat, not really a fan of that dude's work but that's still an egregious rip off to do that without his permission.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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BEHOLD! Your February Movie of the Month thread!

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3958062

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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therattle posted:

I love “Behold!” I recently sent out a work email to a bunch of people with a transaction summary sheet for a film which started like that.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Is it Margot?

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Remember when Lexi Alexander had a rabid fandom cause she made one decent comic book movie? Feel like we all finally realized she's just kind of an rear end in a top hat with bad opinions.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



ruddiger posted:

It’s very stupid but “Clerks is my favorite black and white movie” is a loving hilarious and awesome response.

It's even more amazing after making the declarative statement that old movies are "racist and sexist af." Ah yes, the totally unoffensive classic Clerks.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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It's also that she said the dumb thing and then promptly set to work making sure she looked as bad as possible in the aftermath: Blocking everyone who gave even the most polite pushback or disagreement, trying to use social justice language to claim she was being uniquely victimized and accusing PoC of siding with the mob of white men who are surely behind this, trying to get a college kid expelled for mild trolling. I'm sure she got plenty of abusive comments in her mentions but most of the people I saw were just saying "lol this is a dumb rear end take" and a number of people just praising old movies and encouraging people to seek them out.

I don't know if she's just not in a great place at the moment that exacerbated this or whatnot but she kept digging the hole as deep as it would go.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



It's probably more important that you've seen Bill & Ted 2 before watching Face the Music than it is having seen the first one. I dunno why you would skip ahead though, the third is basically a For the Fans deal.

Plus, Bogus Journey is like one of the easiest movies to watch ever. Just a smooth, fun 90 minutes you can just throw on anytime.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



Her level of obsession with continuing to hammer on this issue, even after disabling and then reinstating her account, is just...troubling tbqh.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:

My Lexi Alexander story is that we were actually mutuals for like a year and were able to have entirely reasonable Twitter conversations for that entire time on a variety of subjects until I lightly pushed back on a “socialism is for white bros and PoC should reject it in fact of building something new” take and she immediately blocked me before having like a 2 day meltdown over people bringing up thomas sankara in her mentions

Yeah that's exactly what is happening her except for something totally insignificant.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



Maxwell Lord posted:

Eh, it's classic "keep digging" behavior.

I would agree but also we’re on like day three or four now and it won’t end.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



I think both she and Walter, iirc, were highlighting the worst replies and telling people that if you disagree with Lexi's old movies take this is who you're aligning yourselves with. Which is just slimy, bad faith politics for what should be an innocuous debate about art.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



ruddiger posted:

lol Disney is releasing the next Spider-Man in theaters this year despite a half million Americans losing their lives in a pandemic that hasn’t ended yet.

Why did Zack Snyder let this happen

They're releasing it in December and probably anticipating that as vaccination rollout ramps up that the U.S. theatrical market will probably reopen this summer.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Theaters are open now in a lot of markets, they just don't have a ton of new movies to show.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Probably as much thought went into the Lola Bunny decision as went into the Sonic the Hedgehog movie character design.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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CPL593H posted:

I'm actually just going to plan to meet you at the Brattle and then minutes before the movie I will call to say I have to cancel. But I'm not really going to cancel I'm going to follow you around Harvard Square while peeking out from behind stuff because I am a miniature man and can hide myself behind a variety of objects that wouldn't conceal most people. And even if you do look directly at me you won't know it's me because I just look like "Generic white hipster aged 25-40." and that's a minimum of 60% of people you'll see hanging around there.

I can't wait!

We've all seen the shorts photos you can't hide.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!




Man I haven't seen this in years and I think I'm laughing harder at it than I ever have. Just....what did they think would happen!??

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



Watched Judas and the Black Messiah last night. It was alright, but it felt structurally and stylistically like a standard Oscar-friendly biopic, just about content that is actually cool and interesting. I liked the performances as performances but agree with the general consensus that the actors were way too old for their parts, undermining the emotional impact. Appreciate its unflinching approach to the radical politics and respect for the Panthers, but it struck me as almost too standardized.

However, the excellent documentary, The Murder of Fred Hampton, is online for free in HD on Vimeo.

https://vimeo.com/434141029

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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pospysyl posted:

Yes. Hampton was 20 and O'Neill was 19, so like you say it makes the story more conventional and mundane. Casting full grown adult actors neuters Hampton's uncanny charisma, O'Neill's terror, and the fact that the government was trying to assassinate a bunch of teenagers.

Yeah. And like Kaluuya gives a very good performance as this character of the Black Messiah, but I don’t quite feel like he’s playing Fred Hampton. He’s playing some other character.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



I wish Kubrick was still alive for a number of reasons, but perhaps one of the nicest benefits would be people could stop using him as a cudgel to baselessly attack Spielberg (or justify their distaste).

So, look, the take that Schindler's List is too satisfactory in its conclusion and doesn't adequately capture the scope of devastation left by the Holocaust is a common complaint. I personally am a fan and find it to be an immensely moving film (in particular, the epilogue with the survivors putting stones on Schindler's grave and the note about how they have over 6,000 descendants among them -- 6,000 people who would never have been born if not for Schindler). I also don't think it's a bad thing to make a movie about the Holocaust that captures that element of it, if anything that epilogue makes me think more about how much was lost and how many people never were born because of the senseless murder.

Like, I think there's a place for Come and See and for Schindler's List. Rather, I think it's just an aversion to Spielberg and his particular populist, inspirational style being applied to the Holocaust is too much for them. I don't really mind the argument or stance so much as I just think they need to be more upfront and specific about their issues with the movie instead of falling back on that Kubrick quote.

So, for what its worth, that Kubrick quote as Gilliam mentions in the clip comes from the book Eyes Wide Open: A Memoir of Stanley Kubrick by Frederic Raphael, who co-wrote the Eyes Wide Shut screenplay with Kubrick. The book has been broadly criticized as self-serving and opportunistic. It was rushed out in the wake of his death and most of it is really about Raphael with Kubrick being teased out as the hook. Anyway, a lot of the controversy around it is people who knew Kubrick who just straight up think it's B.S., including Spielberg:

From 1999: https://variety.com/1999/voices/columns/kubrick-memoir-shocks-spielberg-1117503222/

quote:

Steven Spielberg is among those shocked by screenwriter Frederic Raphael’s description of Stanley Kubrick in his upcoming book, “Eyes Wide Open: A Memoir of Stanley Kubrick.” Spielberg reminds that he knew Kubrick far longer and better than Raphael (who gets second position to Kubrick on the screenplay of “Eyes”). “Stanley Kubrick, Self-hating Jew,” blared the N.Y. Post Wednesday on Rod Dreier’s story of Raphael and his book. Spielberg, after reading the piece, said, “I didn’t recognize the voice of Stanley in that article” which also said Kubrick trashed “Schindler’s List.” Spielberg had long (three-hour) telephone conversations regularly with Kubrick over the years and they confided in each other. And when Spielberg was in London he and Kubrick would always get together. His death was a tremendous to blow to Spielberg who flew over to attend his funeral … Further, the remarks of Raphael are in the hands of an attorney in London. And L.A. attorney Louis Blau, counselor and friend to Kubrick from 1958 until the day he died — he spoke to him that morning — says, “Raphael’s remarks about (Kubrick’s) anti-Semitism and the holocaust are beyond contempt. His relationship with his mother, father, sister and close friends belie that (anti-Semitic) remark. Kubrick believed the Holocaust was the greatest disaster in history.” Blau further says, “Stanley’s family, friends at WB and elsewhere in England and the United States are incensed over Raphael’s inaccurate, vicious and self-serving article in the June 14 New Yorker and subsequent remarks in the Post. One can only conclude Raphael’s recent actions are the result of his realization that he lacked the vision to recognize the universality of Kubrick’s ‘Eyes Wide Shut.’ ”

So, make of it what you will.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



CPL593H posted:

This is the ultimate guide to Massachusetts accents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3s_LbK_xDs

Note how he pronounces the "or" sound. Most people think it sounds like "aw" but it usually doesn't. I can't spell it phonetically. The Boston accent is very inconsistent in a lot of ways.

It is inconsistent but one small trick is that except for people with really thick accents, or certain words that get more stress on the syllable (often if it's the last syllable), there is a slight hint of the "r" sound in there. It's mostly dropped but not always, and that little bit is usually what sells the authenticity.

Like when he says "more" and "contemporary" you can hear a bit of an "r" in those middle syllables. However, it's completely dropped for "under."

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Legit tempted to say it was a purposeful commentary on how corporate dweebs like that are already zombies so they wouldn't change much in death. Even if they were just low on makeup that day it's too good.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Gatts posted:

What if we just give everyone on earth who doesn’t have it $100,000,000 and see what happens?

Woah, can't believe rent just went up $10 million.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Escobarbarian posted:

Under the Silver Lake is great if you want bad Inherent Vice with a shot of poo in a toilet

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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I still haven't seen Nomadland but was thinking of checking it out tonight.

However, must agree with the "commercials can't be melancholy" sentiment. Marketers love invoking negativity in careful ways because it gives the sense that they're being honest. How many ads have you seen that reflect attitudes of "You slave, you fight, you deal with the harsh brutal nature of life as we know it on this Earth. But at the end of the day, it's worth it. Because you earned it. Time to kick back a cool Coors 16-ouncer, watch a little Mork and Mindy on Channel 57. You're good, fine people."

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

It's not even that the movie should be a foam at the mouth screed against Amazon, it's that Amazon quite literally promotes their role in this grueling hellscape: https://www.amazondelivers.jobs/about/camperforce/

I know I've brought this up a lot in the past, but this convo reminds me of when I did that piece with penismightier about Werner Herzog making feature length commercials for internet companies and everyone kept ignoring the obvious to defend him. Like, just cause your ad features dark elements of the thing you're selling doesn't make it not an ad, the dark elements just provide further authenticity cause the audience believes they're seeing something legitimate.

Another good example is Cast Away, in which FedEx had a heavy hand in the direction of the film. They were hesitant about the plane crash at the beginning of the film featuring their logo'd company plane but they ultimately decided the message of the perseverance of their deliverymen was worth the potential of a firey crash hurting their brand image.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Seems pretty clear that it doesn't have to be one or the other. Feels like the argument isn't so much that Nomadland isn't making a commentary on these issues but rather that it is compromised by capitulation to Amazon and therefore its motives more suspect.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Almost Blue posted:

What are the Herzog movies that are feature length commercials? I'm not super familiar with his doc stuff outside of Grizzly Man and My Best Fiend.

Lo and Behold, Reveries of the Connected World -- literally produced by internet infrastructure company Netscout in collaboration with New York ad agency Pereira and O'Dell. Its producer, Netscout's then-CMO, wrote about the experience in Adweek.

https://www.adweek.com/performance-marketing/how-i-talked-werner-herzog-telling-internets-story-175544/
https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/werner-herzogs-new-film-future-branded-entertainment-172737/

Also as mentioned, his texting and driving PSA From One Second to the Next was by AT&T and he did The Killers: Unstaged for American Express.

It's not like, some horrible thing that a filmmaker did some commercials, but it's rather crass coming from a filmmaker whose whole persona and identity is based on an idea of incorruptible art and the pursuit of "ecstatic truth." Hard to be truthful when you've got literal ad men giving you notes and arranging your interviews.

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

Personally i’m glad that all my local independent movie theaters didn’t close down so that Netflix, HBO, Amazon, and Disney could have even more of a monopoly on the film watching experience than they already do but i’m different.

This anti-theater poo poo is wild. There is nothing better than watching a movie on a giant screen with an enthusiastic audience and you have to give it your complete attention. gently caress a Netflix.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Uncle Boogeyman posted:

I was recently thinking back to one of my earliest movie theater memories. It was at the tiny second-run theater that really made me fall in love with the theater experience - the floors were sticky, the prints were damaged from their trip from the first run theater, and the projector would break down with some frequency. The popcorn was loving great, though. My parents inexplicably took me to see Braveheart - I was 7 at the time, I think they just couldn't get a babysitter. My mom covered my eyes through a good 70% of the movie and as if the movie itself wasn't violent enough, a fistfight broke out in the theater halfway through and everybody had to go outside and wait around on the sidewalk for like half an hour while it got broken up.

You can't get that at home. I love the movies.

A couple years ago I went to a midnight screening of Streets of Fire at the Somerville Theater (greater Boston area). There was a really loud drunk dude who was very, very excited for the movie and as we were still settling down and getting seats he would do this high pitched scream: "STREETS OF FIIIIRRREEEE!!!" He kept doing this and even when the manager came out to introduce the film and promote the rest of the midnight series he kept interrupting, especially whenever the film's name was said.

So the lights go down and the Universal logo pops up and he yells "UNIVERSAAALLL!!" and it's like, oh no, he's not going to shut up. Through the first five minutes or so of the film he keeps yelling and it's getting to the point where I can hear his friends trying to tell him to shut up. I distinctly remember him yelling back at them "I'm just having an emotional reaction to the movie, man! Would you tell me not to cry at Titanic!?" So in short he doesn't stop. No more than 10 minutes into the movie I notice flashlights behind me (I'm in the front row, he's a few rows back on the aisle) and the cops are here. They tell him he needs to leave and like the genius he is he starts arguing with the cop.

And then it happened. "AM I BEING DETAINED!? AM I UNDER ARREST!? AM I UNDER ARREST AM I BEING DETAINED!?" The cops dragged him out and he got banned from the theater and oh my god did it make the loving night. I mean, gently caress cops and all but holy poo poo it was astounding to witness that.

The movie rules and some drunk rear end in a top hat was annoying for a bit but I treasure that loving memory. Like you said, you can't get that at home.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

Time for a little robot chauvinism!



It's weird how we're talking about movies as an upper class thing when historically it's been a low and middle class form of entertainment because it's at an acceptable price point for the average person. Yes, ticket and concession prices have shot up over the years but it's still a far cry cheaper than live theater or other forms of outside-the-home entertainment. Fact is, the majority of people only see 1-2 movies in a theater a year, if that but it's still among the most accessible forms of communal entertainment.

If you don't like the experience and prefer to just watch stuff at home, I mean that's fine you don't have to go to the theater. But wishing this industry that so many people love would die so you can see a few big release movies sooner rather than later is absurd.

I could talk about so many other great theater experiences I've had from total dump theaters with bargain nights to arthouses to megaplexes. Movie theaters are the best.

TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Feel like the issue we're addressing is less about a class element of theaters being a premium experience and more that the industry is in distress and there should be more movie theaters.

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TrixRabbi
Aug 20, 2010

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Skwirl posted:

Any specific recommendations?

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