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A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
Just wait until they send you a bill in three years for a set of flight gloves or something.

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bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

Congrats!

When I retired, they called me to schedule turn in.

"For what? The only thing I have is uniforms and unauthorized boots."

"What happened to all the stuff you signed for?"

"I came back from Iraq. My poo poo didn't. Last I heard, it was scattered across the desert from an IED after I left."

"...I'm just going to write it off."


Funniest thing I had to turn in on Active Duty was a 6 color desert flak jacket cover. I was never issued a flak jacket. CIF was really confused when I handed them IBA and that.
"Did you buy this?"
"Nope."
"WTF?"

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
Save all the random weird stuff you have that doesn't go to CIF. I had a gorilla tote full of dumb stuff like scratched up eyepro, probably expired IFAKs and whatever. Guy at one if those prepper stores handed me 4 $100 bills for it.

Nice and hot piss
Feb 1, 2004

I have/had a bunch of poo poo I got from going through OSUT during the time of BDU's, followed by deploying with ACU's, followed by getting re-issued a poo poo ton of TA-50 after getting back which apparently was never documented.

I should sell that stuff

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Turn in complete!

I decided to keep my poncho liner and I was missing a canteen cover.

ALL of that poo poo I've had (shelter halves, ALICE packs + frames, LBE's, gortexes, field jackets, duffel bags, etc, etc) Was not even on my clothing record.

The record I keep was 3 pages long. The one the SSG showed up with was 1 page of just my most recently issued poo poo.

I cleared, so I don't give a poo poo what paperwork got hosed up.

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

spacetoaster posted:

Turn in complete!

I decided to keep my poncho liner and I was missing a canteen cover.

ALL of that poo poo I've had (shelter halves, ALICE packs + frames, LBE's, gortexes, field jackets, duffel bags, etc, etc? Was not even on my clothing record.

The record I keep was 3 pages long. The one the SSG showed up with was 1 page of just my most recently issued poo poo.

I cleared, so I don't give a poo poo what paperwork got hosed up.

Congrats, get you some beer money by selling that poo poo off.

When I got out my helmet wasn't on my record. Really wish I'd kept it.

Itchy_Grundle
Feb 22, 2003

spacetoaster posted:

Turn in complete!

I decided to keep my poncho liner and I was missing a canteen cover.

ALL of that poo poo I've had (shelter halves, ALICE packs + frames, LBE's, gortexes, field jackets, duffel bags, etc, etc) Was not even on my clothing record.

The record I keep was 3 pages long. The one the SSG showed up with was 1 page of just my most recently issued poo poo.

I cleared, so I don't give a poo poo what paperwork got hosed up.

Congratulations! Good call on keeping the poncho liner.

Nimmy
Feb 20, 2011

Soon young Melvin.
Your time will come.
Not sure anyone else is even in at this point, but I just find it funny that the Army is now making NCOs go indef at 10 years instead of 12 years, but they've slowed the hell down out of promotions with 4 years TIG required for all senior enlisted promotions. Also, no one can make E-9 before 16 years, but realistically it's going to be more like 18+ if you include waiting for your OML, not getting slotted immediately for NCOES, maybe not getting a super high OML every single time you're evaluated, etc. So if you want that E-9 high 3 retirement pay, you're staying in after your 20 years.

Carteret
Nov 10, 2012


So as someone who never had a run in or interaction with CID, and hasn't been in in 11 years: are they generally more on the prosecution or defense side of things? Or both?

I know CID generally means "felony" but that's the extent.

Carteret fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Nov 16, 2021

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Carteret posted:

So as someone who never had a run in or interaction with CID, and hasn't been in in 11 years: are they generally more on the prosecution or defense side of things? Or both?

I know CID generally means "felony" but that's the extent.

CID and MPI are investigative agencies and will gather evidence for the prosecutor (commander).

Carteret
Nov 10, 2012


Thanks!

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

spacetoaster posted:

CID and MPI are investigative agencies and will gather evidence for the prosecutor (commander).

Or sometimes just make poo poo up.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 19 hours!
If it's anything like NCIS, it's functionally identical to the role the FBI or more specialized state/local detectives play in the civilian world. But fatter usually.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

CID kinda does their own thing most of the time.

I know that when I come across something serious I call the FBI. Caught a SPC raping the kids his wife was babysitting for on post and it was real hard not to shoot this mother fucker.

MPI can do the regular daily poo poo.

spacetoaster fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Nov 16, 2021

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
Bastards.

All of em.

Carteret
Nov 10, 2012


Just wanted to know if this dude I'm talking to is on the side of the sex pest soldier or the civilian victim. Sounds like probably not on the soldiers side!

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Carteret posted:

Just wanted to know if this dude I'm talking to is on the side of the sex pest soldier or the civilian victim. Sounds like probably not on the soldiers side!

In a perfect world, the investigator is just gathering the facts. And these facts will be given over to the people prosecuting the case.

As a person who was an MP early on in their career I can say that when the sexual assault numbers were front page numbers a while back I was shocked at how low they seemed.

Getting injured and switching MOS's to 42 series was a blessing.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 19 hours!

Carteret posted:

Just wanted to know if this dude I'm talking to is on the side of the sex pest soldier or the civilian victim. Sounds like probably not on the soldiers side!

Neither, they're there in the interests of the commander of that unit's investigation and the army. In theory that should align with the victim, but in practice that's a big maybe.

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

Yeah it depends on a lot of things but anecdotally the handling of the sex pest will more than likely fall in favor of the sex pest and against the victim

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
When you ask for a specialist, and get an SPC.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

The Suffering of the Succotash.
What a legend.

rifles
Oct 8, 2007
is this thing working
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2021/12/08/death-drugs-and-a-disbanded-unit-how-the-guards-mexico-border-mission-fell-apart/

Pretty good article on the border mission. Some stuff in it that might get you pretty pissed off like leaving a soldier to die alone of covid in a hotel room.

PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.

rifles posted:

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2021/12/08/death-drugs-and-a-disbanded-unit-how-the-guards-mexico-border-mission-fell-apart/

Pretty good article on the border mission. Some stuff in it that might get you pretty pissed off like leaving a soldier to die alone of covid in a hotel room.

Report from the front: The SWB Mission is a waste of resources for the Guard. They are used on an "observe and report" basis and can at most call in reports to the CBP to pick up the migrants. The $800 million for the mission is coming out of money set aside to stop the spread of Covid. Everyone is staying in extended stay motel, the Title 10 Orders are for 400 days, and it is a recipe for disaster as people are bored, stuck in non-walkable cities, away from their families, doing a mission that has no metric of success, and and seems designed to get people into trouble.

Let's just take the aviation mission. You've got a battalion of UH-72 helicopters posted all along the border, from California to the Gulf. They fly about 5 hours a day, 5 days a week and mainly use their cameras to assist CBP catching migrants. The vast majority of the migrants caught would have been caught anyway, the number caught are an extreme minority of those caught by the CBP each month, and the metric used to measure success by the aviation unit is the number of flight hours executed.

The people crossing the border caught by the CBP fall into 2 broad categories. Give ups and those trying not to get caught. People who are not from Mexico tend to give up because they know they will be processed by the CBP, given a ticket to somewhere in the interior of the states, and given a court date. Those trying not to get caught are Mexicans, who can be immediately deported, and people smuggling things and/or with prior convictions not wanting to get caught.

The biggest issue for the CBP right now is there are so many give ups needing processing, that it takes agents out of the field so they spend their time processing migrants rather than patrolling the border. A deployment of 42As would probably be a better use of the Guard than what it is doing.

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
My last year in the Army I was responsible for my BDE's contracting requirements and as a consequence I worked with our S8 extensively. An absolutely ridiculous amount of money was being spent to keep roughly a BN sized element on the border from our division. Funding had to be redirected from elsewhere just to meet our training requirements.

However, it was somewhat amusing seeing Soldier's that worshipped the ground Trump walked on get sent to rot on the border for the better part of a year.

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Retrowave Joe
Jul 20, 2001

New year, same Army:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3989760

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