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Mustang
Jun 18, 2006


Have you considered not attending the Captain's Career Course?



I saw some people upset about them, what changed that's pissed everyone off?

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not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

100% chance it's something about women

Loden Taylor
Aug 11, 2003










Women can wear earrings (except pearls) in ACUs. Also, changes to the female hair standards - no minimum length, buzz cuts ok, and pony tails are authorized in utility and combat uniforms.

I haven't personally seen anyone getting angry, but if they are it's probably something like "THEY GET ALL THAT BUT WE CAN'T HAVE BEARDS" or whatever.

Carteret
Nov 10, 2012




not caring here posted:

100% chance it's something about women

it's this

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016


Why was there ever a minimum hair length for women in the first place

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010


They are excellent changes, but every idiot who wants to cosplay Delta wants to grow a lovely pube beard.

Also, from my buddy who did watch it said that all the changes were basically, "Dudes don't understand having long hair."

Carteret
Nov 10, 2012




boop the snoot posted:

Why was there ever a minimum hair length for women in the first place

because what if you can't immediately tell that soldier is a FEMALE?!

Loden Taylor
Aug 11, 2003










There was also this bit

quote:

Removes potentially offensive/weaponized wording such as Mohawk, Fu Manchu, Dreadlock, Eccentric, and Faddish and replace with appropriate terminology for unauthorized grooming and appearance standards. Define professional appearance as a clean and well-groomed appearance.

so I'm sure there were people complaining about PC culture and snowflakes &c

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.




Sugartime Jones

Frosted tips for males and females, and men can have clear nail polish were the other take aways.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

Man-oh-man, Cowboy looks like a bag of leftovers from a V.F.W. barbecue. Of
course, I've got nothing against dead people. Why, some of my best friends are dead

Syrian Lannister posted:

Frosted tips for males and females, and men can have clear nail polish were the other take aways.

I've just recently started doing my nails and would be pissed if I were limited to just clear

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010


My first wife asked me to get a manicure once. As I was waiting for my nails to dry, a nicer older lady struck up a conversation.

"You don't see many men in here. Can I ask what you do?"
"I work for the government." (My normal answer when I was on Active Duty.)
"What do you do for the government?"
"I work for the Army."
"Doing what though? Most men who do this are professionals like doctors and lawyers."
My Wife, trying to be pleasant- "He's in the Infantry."
"What's that?"
"I roll around in the dirt with a machine gun. It was her idea."


I don't like being touched, and my hands are always a horror show of cuts and bruises, or else I'd do it regularly.

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

427 TOTALLY LEGITIMATE, DEFENSIBLE NATIONAL TITLES AND COUNTING


Go get a pedicure after a nice long field ex. Not only is it luxurious, you get to ruin someone's day.

I got one on block leave after OIF2. The German ladies were arguing over who had to do it. It ended up being the obviously youngest and most junior one lol

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

Man-oh-man, Cowboy looks like a bag of leftovers from a V.F.W. barbecue. Of
course, I've got nothing against dead people. Why, some of my best friends are dead

Take better care of your feet, poo poo

ASAPI
Apr 20, 2007
I invented the line.



GD_American posted:

Go get a pedicure after a nice long field ex. Not only is it luxurious, you get to ruin someone's day.

I got one on block leave after OIF2. The German ladies were arguing over who had to do it. It ended up being the obviously youngest and most junior one lol

I've had the same experience. My ladies compromised on each doing one foot. They were not happy.

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

427 TOTALLY LEGITIMATE, DEFENSIBLE NATIONAL TITLES AND COUNTING


UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:

Take better care of your feet, poo poo

Eh 14 months of desert did what it did. And I won't even pretend they saw 10% the abuse an infantryman's did.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016


I hate my feet being touched so much that Iíll slap hands away out of reflex as if a mosquito is biting me, and I still think the pedicure I got after my deployment was an amazing decision.

White Chocolate
Jan 23, 2007
Sweat Baby, sweat baby

http://chng.it/2q429NryvY

Sign the drat beard petition

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014




BUT HOW WILL YOU WEAR YOUR GAS MASK IF YOU HAVE A BEARD!!!????!!?!



(lot's of options for masks that work with beards)



NOOOOOOOOOOO!!

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

Wait for commander's discretion when that PV2 is rocking the Robinson Crusoe and top can only summon up some baby fart bum fluff maiden's wisp pathetic excuse for facial hair.

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

427 TOTALLY LEGITIMATE, DEFENSIBLE NATIONAL TITLES AND COUNTING


That one hurts in the truth bone. My poo poo-rear end PSG and his pencil-thin repressed homosexual state trooper mustache gave me so much poo poo over my (completely compliant, luxuriously thick) one that I shaved it and didn't ever bother again.

Now he's dead of pancreatic cancer. gently caress off, Tyrone.

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006


Have you considered not attending the Captain's Career Course?



Is wearing color/non-subdued unit patches part of the new changes? Been seeing dudes on my feed wearing them, also with the BDE number as part of the unit patch.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014




Mustang posted:

Is wearing color/non-subdued unit patches part of the new changes? Been seeing dudes on my feed wearing them, also with the BDE number as part of the unit patch.

The only funny colored stuff I've been seeing is the Joint stuff everyone is getting into.

There's a huge push for everyone to get joint qualified right now.

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006


Have you considered not attending the Captain's Career Course?



I've been seeing JBLM people wearing patches like this

PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.


IDK, I always thought that once the patches went to velcro that the full color would be worn in garrison.

But I don't really care one way or the other.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

What, Me Worry?


laughs in sweatpants and stubble

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.




Sugartime Jones

EBB posted:

laughs in sweatpants and stubble

MightyJoe36
Dec 29, 2013

Cat Army


EBB posted:

laughs in sweatpants and a full beard

ASAPI
Apr 20, 2007
I invented the line.



EBB posted:

laughs in sweatpants and stubble

Also a bathrobe..

White Chocolate
Jan 23, 2007
Sweat Baby, sweat baby

Does it look better ehhh. Do I have to pay for it? I hope not.

Nimmy
Feb 20, 2011

Soon young Melvin.
Your time will come.


Mustang posted:

I've been seeing JBLM people wearing patches like this



I think a lot of garrison commands are starting to do it locally. Big Red One has been doing it forever.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016


I just saw on USAWTFM that the secarmy drafted a memo to auto ďpromoteĒ people from SPC to CPL when they graduate BLC.

Lmao gently caress you if youíre still in and gently caress you harder if youíre a junior enlisted.

Retrowave Joe
Jul 20, 2001
Be heroes.

Thatís correct. Itíll hit the Reserve in May. Which, sure whatever. Something I read said itís to try and deal with the whole Specialist culture but I think thatís about as likely as them having a surplus of Corporal patches in the warehouse.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008





Someone is actually trying to gently caress with the E4 mafia?

rifles
Oct 8, 2007
is this thing working

Retrowave Joe posted:

Thatís correct. Itíll hit the Reserve in May. Which, sure whatever. Something I read said itís to try and deal with the whole Specialist culture but I think thatís about as likely as them having a surplus of Corporal patches in the warehouse.

Is there a point to this that I'm missing? I did the (sorta recent) guard program where they promoted me before I had BLC, appointed me CPL and I held an E5 slot until I did BLC (almost a year later). It was a pretty good experience and acted as a stepping stone, but just giving CPL to people with no slots to put them in seems dumb?

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

If there's less specialists to tell corporals to gently caress off, then corporals become important again.

ASAPI
Apr 20, 2007
I invented the line.



Retrowave Joe posted:

Thatís correct. Itíll hit the Reserve in May. Which, sure whatever. Something I read said itís to try and deal with the whole Specialist culture but I think thatís about as likely as them having a surplus of Corporal patches in the warehouse.

Better yet, they may be seeing/projecting staffing issues in the future for E5 slots. Are we about to see a bunch of midtermers get out due to command climate and their co-workers?

Retrowave Joe
Jul 20, 2001
Be heroes.



Retrowave Joe fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Feb 5, 2021

ASAPI
Apr 20, 2007
I invented the line.




Are they maybe planning on slowing advancement? Maybe people are spending to little time as E5 and they are trying to leverage all those SPC's the send to whatever the school is called now? Did they stop sending literally every eligible SPC to school all the time?

Cyks
Mar 17, 2008


ASAPI posted:

Are they maybe planning on slowing advancement? Maybe people are spending to little time as E5 and they are trying to leverage all those SPC's the send to whatever the school is called now? Did they stop sending literally every eligible SPC to school all the time?

They can sell it as recognition to soldiers who've completed BLC who have yet to fill an E5 slot while also putting NCO responsibilities on an E4 without having to pay them more.

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rifles
Oct 8, 2007
is this thing working

ASAPI posted:

Are they maybe planning on slowing advancement? Maybe people are spending to little time as E5 and they are trying to leverage all those SPC's the send to whatever the school is called now? Did they stop sending literally every eligible SPC to school all the time?


I can only speak for the guard side but the current solution is to take a promotable SPC with no schooling and slot them as a CPL in an E5 slot as their promotion. Because school slots ($$$) are limited, they'd rather have E5 slots be filled while people wait rather than have vacancies at that level. This is rear end-backwards if you believe BLC is actually a good school that teaches how to do team leader duties (it doesn't, it's a lovely writing course now) but if you luck out and get someone decent then they can more or less figure it out with some assistance and do a pretty good job. They get hosed and get paid the same for more responsibilities until they check the BLC box but it's their slot and they're guaranteed to pin once they finish it.

For the RA I'd guess this is somewhat backwards? Too few slots, too many schooled SPCs that then sit as a SPC forever? Seems like they're trying to throw a bone to those individuals by making them CPLs in recognition of their eligibility, probably to try to reduce burden on E5s (as the CPL is supposed to do) but without really restructuring for it?

Cyks posted:

They can sell it as recognition to soldiers who've completed BLC who have yet to fill an E5 slot while also putting NCO responsibilities on an E4 without having to pay them more.

yeah this basically

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