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Thoughtless posted:It's not Jack himself who's calling for Mike Pence to be hanged, is it now? It's Trump supporters, actively inciting violence. Dismantled by ~LoGiC~ The only format where Garrison even approaches "good" is just when a strong man and/or animal is center frame and his weak and ineffectual opponents are small and cowering in the margins. Like, it's so on-the-nose to be laughable, but you instantly get what message you're supposed to take away from it. As soon as it gets any more complicated than that, he loving sucks. Several of his cartoons contradict themselves because he's so bad at messaging.
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Pants Donkey posted:I regret to inform you it’s that time of year again Ah yes, time for another round of "I AM judging them by the content of their character! And it's bad!" Anyone want to make any bets on how many "MLK looks disappointedly down from heaven on the violent thugs of BLM" cartoons there are this year?
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Jan 15, 2021 19:35
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Does anyone else remember when Trump very vocally wanted to throw a soviet-style military parade, and conservatives wanted us to all get on board with that? No? Just me? Dirk the Average posted:It's funny, usually the lovey-dovey stuff to one of the enemies is supposed to be a bad thing, but this is showing Biden's wife being in love with him? I'm not sure what exactly that's supposed to convey that is bad; you'd think that having a wife who is loving and supportive would be a good thing. Maybe after watching Trump for so long, he forgot that couples are supposed to enjoy each others' presence? Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen overt affection portrayed in a Garrison cartoon as anything other than toadies fawning over their evil masters. He obviously thinks that Trump loves Good People, but he expresses it by hurting the Bad People while striking a pose and smiling gently at the reader.
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Stultus Maximus posted:It seems pretty strawmanny to me. Like, anyone who took a day to celebrate isn't actually saying everything is perfect now and we can stop caring. I get what you're saying, but I think that it's more of a complaint towards the "we should be at brunch right now" liberals whose motivations were pretty clear even during the Trump administration. Like yeah there are a bunch of hot leftists takes on twitter claiming that everyone celebrating is a complicit centrist, but the artist of that comic doesn't strike me as that type. It reads as much more of an indictment of the "well, a Democrat's in the White House, we have achieved True Justice, time to not pay attention to politics for four years" crowd.
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Jan 22, 2021 19:52
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Vib Rib posted:The advice has pretty much always been "wear a mask" and the only time it wasn't was when there was such a severe mask shortage that medical staff needed it more. "The directions keep changing!" is basically a bullshit complaint they'll never drop, like all their complaints. Yeah, the fact that it changed once is all they need. I've heard so many pundits say "Oh, so we need to wear masks now? That's not what you were saying before  " followed by a clip of Fauci from early March of 2020, it makes me want to pull my hair out.
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You can really tell that Ishida is reluctant to just come out and admit he's a MAGA guy now, so he's trying to subtly filter it through his webcomic. He has no idea on how to be subtle, though, so it takes the form of a benevolent red hat-wearing redneck couple protecting a helpless infant from Liberals, The Real Nazis.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Why would he be reluctant though? Anyone who isn't a TERF hates his comic now, and liberal TERFs love the alt right much more than they love the left, so what readers could he possibly turn away by showing full on MAGA support? I don't think it's the case of him trying to sneak it in for his audience, I think it's because he still thinks he's a good, smart person, who makes fun of BOTH sides. Actually admitting to himself that he's just a bog-standard Republican shatters that. Sure, he sides with the conservative establishment nine times out of ten, but he's not like those WEIRDO Trump guys! Look, what I'm trying to say is that he's a TERF version of Glenn Beck circa 2016.
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Moon Slayer posted:This hatred of teachers just has to be pathological. A person I called today for work-related business immediately unleashed an anti-teacher rant as soon as I mentioned the pandemic. Like, as soon as they saw an opportunity, they made it their entire life goal to convince me that all teachers are just lazy good-for-nothings and they're working with The Elites to make everyone's lives miserable. It was bizarre how widespread just visceral hatred of teachers is in America.
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skeleton warrior posted:Transphobia also, like homophobia, has roots in toxic masculinity; and because toxic masculinity insists upon male superiority, women trying to become men is outright logical and not as threatening; while men trying to be women is (in the eyes of the toxically masculine) inherently perverse as it embraces weakness and non-masculinity. M-to-F trans gender persons are therefore weird and crazy and must be driven by deep makes-sense-to-the-toxically-masculine reasons such as “want to see women naked”. This also has the side effect of a trans woman's very existence turning into a Weird Sex Thing in their minds. They can't imagine anyone presenting like a woman unless it was giving them some constant sexual thrill. It's how a leading argument against trans rights in conservative circles is portraying a trans woman using the women's restroom at Target as this nefarious pervert who is CLEARLY only in there to gawk at Our Precious Daughters!! Like, no, Debra, they use the Target bathroom because of sudden-onset Chipotle shits, just like the rest of us.
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Alhazred posted:Yes? BLM has been combatting systemic racism and considering it's a loosely organized movement it's been mostly non-violent. Certainly less violent than the groups that are against then. "Mostly non-violent" is a dogwhistle for old conservative white people. In their version of reality, BLM was rampaging through the streets, burning down buildings left and right, leveling entire city blocks, and killing and raping indiscriminately as they went. Our Brave Boys in Blue were helpless to stop the hordes, as the Democrat coward mayors told them to stand down. So when reporters (accurately) described protests as "mostly non-violent", it filled them with righteous indignation and it was proof that the lamestream media was in cahoots with the racebaiting commies. Source: my dad's Facebook feed for like three weeks in July
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Man, the chuds must have all gotten together on a Zoom call last week, because I've heard no less than four radio programs push the "The Biden administration is CASTRATING our CHILDREN" line fairly hard. Like, just pure fantasyland bullshit. It's bad enough that they refer to gender-affirming surgery as "mutilation" and hormone blockers as "chemical castration", but Jesus Christ, now they're suggesting that the government is going to come in and forcibly trans your child's gender. How far is this rhetoric going to go?
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100YrsofAttitude posted:They're just ceasing publication, not mass burning them. They'll exist for archival purposes, which is for the best. The only ones I think I read, because the title's spark some recognition are: And To Think That I Saw It On Mulberry Street, If I Ran the Zoo, and On Beyond Zebra!, not that I remember at all what was in them. I think most conservatives who are really trumpeting this stupid, stupid cause are under the impression that Biden somehow "cancelled" all of Dr. Seuss' works via executive order. They're so desperate to keep that "we're actually being censored!" high going, so they actively avoid learning that it's Seuss' own estate going "Okay, yikes, we're not going to publish these six specific books anymore." Somfin posted:It's entirely possible he saw his depictions as harmless caricatures and also very likely he would have understood otherwise had it been explained to him My (very white) mom was going to pass down a bunch of her old children's books to my nieces, and included an actual copy of Little Black Sambo in the package. She thought it was just a harmless book about a little kid and some tigers, since it was one of the later editions with illustrations that weren't pure golliwog-style. It took a bit of explaining for her to eventually come around to "Okay MAYBE it's a little messed up" and taking the book out, but she mentioned that it was the only book she had growing up that had a black people in it at all, so she viewed it as representation, in a way. It's possible to have good intentions and still lean into stereotyping and insensitivity without realizing it. (Mea culpa: Little Black Sambo was one of my favorite books as a little kid. In my defense, I was four, had next to no context about the history of visual stereotyping of people of color, and thought tigers were really cool.)
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BiggerJ posted:I've been thinking about Tinsley's hiatus being entirely due to health reasons and Yaakov "Dry Bones" Kirschen's visible gradual mental ebbing. What political cartoonists have died since there threads began in 2007 (I can only think of Bill Leak Sr., the Phineas Gage of political cartooning)? And who do we think will be next? Chuck Asay's my bet for the next one to go, at least from old age. I am very, very glad that he retired before the Trump years. I don't think I'd be psychologically capable of handling 4 years of happy-go-lucky children loving up metaphors about how the border wall keeps us safe by keeping those animals out.
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MechaCrash posted:I have seen a theory that Tats isn't doing this because he's taking a hard-right turn, it's because he's a grifter with no convictions and this is just the latest hustle after his Patreon started tanking. Eh, it's possible, but I don't think it's likely he's just a complete mercenary who just draws what he thinks his audience wants with no actual conviction behind it. If that were the case, I'd expect him to just pivot to producing NSFW side-content, or something else that wouldn't completely alienate everyone outside a laser-focused demographic. It might be that he's chasing a new audience, but it's like Glenn Beck finally caving in and putting on a MAGA hat. You don't just do that out of the blue.
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Apr 4, 2021 19:20
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Katt posted:Garrison could probably make a hundred thousand dollars a month taking commissions from furry libertarians. It's the holy trinity of money and h already has practise. I know we all joke about Garrison being a furry and everything, but really, his art style doesn't lend itself to anthropomorphic animals at all, at least not in the way that furries tend to like. Sure he draws people "as animals" but it's usually just a basic caricature of a politician's face slapped onto an animal body. It looks creepy and weird.
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Grimdude posted:So is "laughing" the only right wing meme about Kamala? Like is that it? It's what Branco always does: he saw that one photo-op of Biden and Harris laughing together when she was announced as his VP, imprinted like a baby duck, and that's the only way he's going to draw her for the next 3 and a half years. He's finally starting to draw Biden with other facial expressions, but Harris is both a woman and a minority, so the blinding rage that Branco feels while thinking about her keeps her looking like that in his head forever. It's how we got 4+ years of his caricature of Obama being "that one photo from like 2006 where it kinda looked like he was looking down his nose at you" no matter what the situation in the comic was.
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So, uh, very much noticing the cut-off "P" on that sign in the second panel. Go gently caress yourself forever, Ishida. Raised By Birds posted:What is he even trying to say with these? The only ones trying to 'change democracy' right now are Republican state legislatures passing voter suppression laws, but with how chud-y he's been lately I doubt he's talking about that. I think the first strip is a tortured "actually, Trump won" metaphor. The Deep State says that Biden is the new President, and the general public doesn't accept this (i.e. actually voted for him and not Biden), but it doesn't matter because the Deep State suspended true democracy and installed him anyway. The second strip is just a lame IT joke. I may be reading too much into it, but I'm not about to give Ishida a scrap of anything resembling benefit of the doubt. It could just be a milder "wah I'm being kicked off twitter for my conservative beliefs" thing, but you never know. Crunch Buttsteak fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Apr 18, 2021 |
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Omobono posted:I'm not a native English speaker. What hateful slur is the P for? It's not a slur, it just stands for "pedophile". It's not super common, but far-right figures (typically Evangelical Christians) will occasionally include a "P" at the end of the LGBTQ acronym just to insinuate that pedophilia is either the next step or totally accepted within "the movement". Again: Not giving this motherfucker even an ounce of benefit of the doubt, considering how deep he seems to be delving into the chud-o-sphere.
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Thoughtless posted:I mean I'd ride Safe Space Mountain and future neon world with pronoun porn (?) and gender switching tonics seems pretty rad to me too. No, but, you see, the reason it's that way is, uh, pimps, somehow, so it's all bad actually
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SneezeOfTheDecade posted:Al Goodwyn This one really shows how the conservative brain works. Like, not really the opinion itself, but the processes that went into it. Any rational outside observer would watch a basketball game and see just that - a basketball game. To a conservative brain, though, all it takes is one player kneeling, or one BLM decal, or one tweet from a team opposing racism, and suddenly WOAH look at all these POLITICS, it's non-stop they're shoving it down my THROAT. It's like how conservatives whine about how TV sitcoms nowadays are overflowing with gays and transes and nonbinaries when there are, like, 5 of them. They see one example of a thing they don't like and their brains just go into overdrive, exaggerating to the point where they kinda lose grip on reality.
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Yeah, Conservatives bringing up suicide rates of LGBT people is like when they bring up how many murders there were in Chicago over the weekend. They don't do it because they actually see it as a problem that they want to see fixed, they bring it up because they see it as moral justification for the way they treat other groups of people. Hell, I remember back even in the early 10's, "pro-family" conservatives weren't exactly shy about their intentions. Nowadays they've softened it down to this dog-whistle bullshit, so if you call them out on it they can pivot to "No, you see, we don't hate them, we love them, we want what's best for them!"
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Billy Gnosis posted:Funny enough, my understanding is that the opposite is true. Native Texans are going bluer while the people moving to Texas are redder. Yeah, anecdotes I've heard from Texans make it seem like the people who are moving there from California are pretty firmly in the "conservatives who want to buy into the tax-free cowboy lifestyle" camp. I dunno how accurate that is overall, but it makes it seem like the "oh no, Texas is being infiltrated by Auntie Fah" narrative is fairly unlikely (shocking, I know).
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Fister Roboto posted:Why do you always make these incredibly whiny aggrieved posts any time a cartoonist makes even a mild joke about liberals from the left? I see it as a "make up a guy in your head and get really mad at him" situation. Like, you portray a guy who films police encounters, attends protests, tries to convince people that the police need reform... and then conclude with "but he's doing it all because he secretly loves the police and status quo, gently caress that bootlicker!" There are tons of less-weird ways to criticize the whole crowd of "Chauvin was found guilty, yay, our system works!" liberals, they're very easily mockable in more-direct ways.
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Vib Rib posted:God I loving hate Ishida so much. "The light of the West is going out" is full on nazi poo poo, there's not even a veil of deniability here. Secular chuds love organized Christianity, but only as a symbol for white supremacy. Hell, half of them probably got their start on the downward slope to fascism by watching people like thunderf00t DESTROY Creationist arguments using facts and logic. But, as soon as Muslims or LGBT people show up, suddenly they're buddy-buddy with the church, because, you see, Christianity is responsible for so much "Western Thought" [rapid series of winks and nudges followed by a muttered "deus vult"]
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:
God it still weirds me out that this is published on a website called fuckin' "Flag and Cross". Like, they know, right? They've gotta know. ewiley posted:though I swear there was one where the kid is driving with his dad and is like “dad why don’t we feed the bears” and dad is like “don’t want them to get lazy” and then they drive into the city and the kid is all agog at people giving handouts to homeless people  Still gross. Also, in trying to find this, I discovered that bears feature pretty prominently in a surprising amount of Asay comics. Dude just liked bears I guess.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:The more I see of this talking point the more it pisses me off. My guess is that people saying this poo poo saw fast food restaurants still operating consistently throughout the pandemic, and thus thought everything was just hunky-dory and the economy was still humming along just fine. They didn't notice or care about the high turn-over rates and lovely conditions, so as soon as they saw a passive-aggressive sign put up by a Hardee's manager, they conclude that those drat poors have just suddenly come down with a bad case of The Lazies. It couldn't possibly be that people are making a rational decision not to work at a high-stress job that treats you like poo poo for $7.50 an hour during a global pandemic.
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Johnny Walker posted:Boy, my main problem with Trump sure were those "mean tweets"! "He made mean tweets" is the most-scathing criticism chuds allow themselves to acknowledge about Trump. Literally everything else has to be either praise or minimizing bad poo poo as no big deal. To them, rhetorically, mean tweets are Trump's only flaw, and a dumb-and-so-goddamn-crazy reason not to vote for him. I've heard it mostly from conservatives bitching about other conservatives that weren't sufficiently pro-Trump, actually. "Well now we have a baby-killing marxist in the White House... But at least Trump isn't making mean tweets anymore, huh!?!"
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Axetrain posted:In awe of the mental gymnastics it takes to convince yourself that Biden is shaking in his boots over this and that he will be removed from office and replaced with Trump. Just pure fantastical delusion. I'm genuinely curious if Garrison actually thinks that "all of these fraudulent states flip to Trump, who is given the presidency back" is an actual thing that can happen. Like, it's been stated repeatedly that there are no mechanisms in place to change election results after all of the results are ratified. Conservative pundits seem to know this, and are just using the "audit" as fuel for outrage and a way of licking their wounds. Even the most-radical voices are saying that it's going to take civil war to actually re-install Trump once enough "justification" is found. Garrison, though? I'd absolutely believe that his brain is broken to the point that he thinks Strong Daddy will just waltz back into the White House and it'll be like when Simba re-takes Pride Rock.
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:I think the thing that gets me the most about Garrison is that he is still clinging to the idea that Biden could not possibly win an election because he's less popular than Obama and did poorly in some primaries. He just hammers it and hammers it and hammers it in every rant and has somehow managed to connect from "people like Obama better than Biden" directly to "the globalists are rigging everything!!!" My favorite argument in that same line are the conservatives who are absolutely flabbergasted that Biden could have possibly won, because Trump was throwing huge rallies in 2020 and Biden was drawing crowds of about a dozen. They don't let the context of "We were in a global pandemic, Trump was ignoring it, and Biden wasn't" even begin to enter their minds. Twelve by Pies posted:Hannity was talking to some Arizona state senator last week about the audit and all I really remember was something about ballots being mixed together, discrepancies in the number of ballots vs what the slips said, and there not being paperwork for the chain of custody of the ballots. Which, even if true, are definitely problems that should be fixed but don't prove "massive voter fraud." I've heard that there were also some broken "do not tamper" seals on some of the ballot boxes, which I'm actually inclined to believe isn't total bullshit. It's just that the gulf between what that actually proves (at some point between the election, two official reviews and one third-party audit, one or more seals were broken) and what they want it to prove (a smoking gun that nefarious agents threw away Trump votes and replaced them with Biden votes) means it's all just more theater.
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Grimdude posted:Is this in response to any sort of financial news? Or is this basically the equivalent of "wouldn't it be terrible if the candidate I don't like said/did this awful thing I'm depicting?" "If Biden isn't actively ruining the economy and letting inflation run rampant, then why do I keep drawing cartoons depicting him doing so?"
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Garrison's squeals are just getting more and more pathetic and by the numbers. You can barely hate or mock him anymore because it's just that stupid and spewing his greatest hits over and over again. I think Garrison runs into problems when he doesn't have a clear protagonist. Without a strongman actively punishing or pursuing the people he doesn't like, he can only portray sniveling villains getting away with their obvious crimes, which don't make for good political cartoons. I guess if Garrison were a better artist he could swing it into pure agitprop, but his subjects are people already despised by right-wingers anyway, so I dunno if it would change anything.
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"The secularization of the USA?" What the gently caress are you talking about? America is a secular nation! It's not like we're finally getting around to repealing the "worship Jesus or else" laws. You normally only see this kind of rhetoric in hardcore fundie circles, so seeing some lovely libertarian funny-page comic depict The Lord God Himself be really pissed at the idea of America not being an explicitly-Christian state is bizarre.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Does anyone remember the "scandal" about how elementary school children were being taught to song a song praising Obama? And how that was the beginning of a communist (or fascist, words mean nothing) cult of personality?? Yep. If I remember right, the song wasn't even praising him - he was just at the end of a list of prominent Americans (either Black Americans or presidents, I forget which). Right wing media was just still in a white hot rage that he got elected, so "Oh hey a bunch of kids mentioned Obama in a song" gradually became "Democrats are forcing children to chant for their chosen one, hmmm that sure sounds like Antichrist behavior to me..."
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Brokeback Mountain being used as shorthand for "ew, gays, haha!" more than 15 years after the fact sure is weird to see, but this is Garrison we're talking about. Motherfucker doesn't let anything go. We're going to be seeing Pajama Boy callbacks in 2040.
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Vib Rib posted:7. Every so-called "progressive" movement is actual a conspiracy to take down REGULAR folks like you and me. Also I put the rainbow flag there because on top of being transphobic I'm now done pretending I'm in any way pro-LGB. Ishida strikes me as a person that will loudly say how cool he is with gay people and how love is love and all that, but then still freaks the gently caress out when a cartoon has two gay dads in it. Like, he wants the recognition of being a Good Person, but still has "all gays are pedophiles" internalized and may not even realize it. Then again, he's getting more and more open about his thoughts on The Gay Agenda, so who knows. Raised By Birds posted:Tony Branco Wait, is Branco from Minnesota? Or is he just fixated on it because he's under the impression that we're in a constant state of being burnt down by auntie fa?
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I mean it. Ted Rall's work at least expresses a point of view, albeit a deeply stupid and hateable one. Prickly City can't even manage that. Hey, about twice a year, Prickly City reminds you that the people who create it are deeply transphobic and occasionally think that America should be Christian-only. That should count for something.
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