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dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


what if

centrally planned public housing

...?

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i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

dead gay comedy forums posted:

what if

centrally planned public housing

...?

only ever done to separate the races

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

https://twitter.com/nope_its_lily/status/1365689143318040576?s=19

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

soup. posted:

Your prideful house and the shelter of your family is being borrowed from bankers. They own your house. Step out of line, and quick as a flash someone else will say they own your house.
i own plot of land and I'm building a house on it with my own two hands. it's my covid project. the whole lumber price thing is really loving with my plans though

MEGA THREAD RETARD
Jan 26, 2021

by vyelkin

Dolphin posted:

i own plot of land and I'm building a house on it with my own two hands. it's my covid project. the whole lumber price thing is really loving with my plans though

Much as Quine postulated that platonic ideals are a web, not suspended, free, in the air, but at the edges anchored to the material, so too is your plot of land and house anchored to our hideous bullshit. No man is an island. We're all going to loving suffer for this.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Rutibex posted:

for anyone who gets evicted from there home with 1 weeks notice always keep in mind that you can irreparably destroy a buildings foundation with a $50 bucket of Dexpan and a hammer drill

:cheers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cvcnkzK8Jk

drat this must be the biggest ROI on property damage

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.

Homeless Friend posted:

drat this must be the biggest ROI on property damage

Black masks, glass bottles, and gasoline is way cheaper than a hammer drill

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Twerk from Home posted:

Black masks, glass bottles, and gasoline is way cheaper than a hammer drill

yeah but foundations cost a fuckton of money as well, you can put a fire out. might not burn everything, etc. once the foundation is hosed, its all over lol.

MEGA THREAD RETARD
Jan 26, 2021

by vyelkin

Twerk from Home posted:

Black masks, glass bottles, and gasoline is way cheaper than a hammer drill

Take your smart phone and place it by a friend's house beforehand. They use GPS tattles to bust people, but, by the same token, it's a reasonable doubt alibi. They're obligated to provide all potentially exculpatory evidence, and they WILL grab your records, so you don't even need to pay or subpoena for it. Just demand it, if they don't turn it over.

Subscribe to metromile or other services that track your movements.

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

Dolphin posted:

i own plot of land and I'm building a house on it with my own two hands. it's my covid project. the whole lumber price thing is really loving with my plans though

Have you considered getting an old box truck and firepit instead?

bagual
Oct 29, 2010

inconspicuous

dead gay comedy forums posted:

what if

centrally planned public housing

...?

ah the economic housing socialist calculus problem, who's to say what measure of shelter and comfort people actually need, that's for the market to decide

*lives in a literal damp hole in the ground*

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

lol trader joes ceo is a covid-chud

https://twitter.com/BenBonnema/status/1365422715436478470?s=20

now they anglin' for a union

punished milkman
Dec 5, 2018

would have won
my favourite index investing shill canadian just released a video re: cathie woods https://youtu.be/p6HrepdLSu4

not doomsday econ at all but i like his vids

Preen Dog
Nov 8, 2017

Dolphin posted:

i own plot of land and I'm building a house on it with my own two hands. it's my covid project. the whole lumber price thing is really loving with my plans though

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007


hell house is real

MEGA THREAD RETARD
Jan 26, 2021

by vyelkin

Nonsense posted:

lol trader joes ceo is a covid-chud

https://twitter.com/BenBonnema/status/1365422715436478470?s=20

now they anglin' for a union

I just called them. You should too.

https://twitter.com/MakeupandMagic1/status/1365517616710881283?s=19

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

those trader joe employees are gonna disconnect their phone.

although it's funny people in the replies think the lady doxxed a store

MEGA THREAD RETARD
Jan 26, 2021

by vyelkin

Nonsense posted:

those trader joe employees are gonna disconnect their phone.

although it's funny people in the replies think the lady doxxed a store

I called them up, was connected immediately to a manager. Read the text of the termination letter to him.

What the gently caress have you done?

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

bought the dip

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 12 minutes!

Preen Dog
Nov 8, 2017

quote:

Limit store occupancy levels based on CO2 levels

Ok safety or whatever but... as a filter toucher myself most of this complaint is total bullshit. This is a newer retail store on the main level, doors opening to the outside, attached to a highrise apartment building. The CO2 level never deviates from background levels, ever, from infiltration and convection alone, even if you packed the store and turned the air handlers off. Filter efficiency means nothing re: covid when you have customers close together and direct transmission is much easier than a droplet surviving a trip through the loop. And the amount of outside ventilation/recirculation is completely dictated by cooling demand. There is no "economy mode" because the system wants to use outside air as a source of free cooling and probably doesn't have a heating mode anyway. If it's very hot or freezing outside, the recirculation will increase, but even in the worst case still have many times more ventilation than a detached family house. Even if the space were plastic-wrapped airtight with the people inside, it would take days for the CO2 to reach uncomfortable levels because of the huge plan and high ceilings. It's not a WWII submarine.

tldr; the air conditioning works the way it does because anything else would make the store too hot or cold and I can't change it for you because you read some stuff online. And no, better filters are expensive. You felt perfectly safe to walk around outside, well, the air quality in here is way better.

e. Places where CO2 or contaminants are a genuine concern are in flat structures without any kind of forced air conditioning, and doors that rarely open. Schools, low-rise residential, small offices, etc. Particularly where passive ventilation has been minimized/sabotaged to save on heating hosts in colder climates.

Preen Dog has issued a correction as of 19:02 on Feb 27, 2021

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Preen Dog posted:

Ok safety or whatever but... as a filter toucher myself most of this complaint is total bullshit. This is a newer retail store on the main level, doors opening to the outside, attached to a highrise apartment building. The CO2 level never deviates from background levels, ever, from infiltration and convection alone, even if you packed the store and turned the air handlers off. Filter efficiency means nothing re: covid when you have customers close together and direct transmission is much easier than a droplet surviving a trip through the loop. And the amount of outside ventilation/recirculation is completely dictated by cooling demand. There is no "economy mode" because the system wants to use outside air as a source of free cooling and probably doesn't have a heating mode anyway. If it's very hot or freezing outside, the recirculation will increase, but even in the worst case still have many times more ventilation than a detached family house. Even if the space were plastic-wrapped airtight with the people inside, it would take days for the CO2 to reach uncomfortable levels because of the huge plan and high ceilings. It's not a WWII submarine.

tldr; the air conditioning works the way it does because anything else would make the store too hot or cold and I can't change it for you because you read some stuff online. And no, better filters are expensive. You felt perfectly safe to walk around outside, well, the air quality in here is way better.

e. Places where CO2 or contaminants are a genuine concern are in flat structures without any kind of forced air conditioning, and doors that rarely open. Schools, low-rise residential, small offices, etc. Particularly where passive ventilation has been minimized/sabotaged to save on heating hosts in colder climates.

well actually, scab edition

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
never was a fan of trader joes, everytime I’ve been in one my first thought was I’d rather be at Costco

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Koirhor posted:

never was a fan of trader joes, everytime I’ve been in one my first thought was I’d rather be at Costco

cool, but labor organizing is cool and solidarity isn’t about your consumption preferences

Quetzadilla
Jun 6, 2005

A PARTICULARLY GHOULISH SHITPOSTER FOR NEOLIBERLISM AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

Preen Dog posted:

Ok safety or whatever but... as a filter toucher myself most of this complaint is total bullshit. This is a newer retail store on the main level, doors opening to the outside, attached to a highrise apartment building. The CO2 level never deviates from background levels, ever, from infiltration and convection alone, even if you packed the store and turned the air handlers off. Filter efficiency means nothing re: covid when you have customers close together and direct transmission is much easier than a droplet surviving a trip through the loop. And the amount of outside ventilation/recirculation is completely dictated by cooling demand. There is no "economy mode" because the system wants to use outside air as a source of free cooling and probably doesn't have a heating mode anyway. If it's very hot or freezing outside, the recirculation will increase, but even in the worst case still have many times more ventilation than a detached family house. Even if the space were plastic-wrapped airtight with the people inside, it would take days for the CO2 to reach uncomfortable levels because of the huge plan and high ceilings. It's not a WWII submarine.

tldr; the air conditioning works the way it does because anything else would make the store too hot or cold and I can't change it for you because you read some stuff online. And no, better filters are expensive. You felt perfectly safe to walk around outside, well, the air quality in here is way better.

e. Places where CO2 or contaminants are a genuine concern are in flat structures without any kind of forced air conditioning, and doors that rarely open. Schools, low-rise residential, small offices, etc. Particularly where passive ventilation has been minimized/sabotaged to save on heating hosts in colder climates.

sorry you were wrong about HVAC safety concerns, you're fired now.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
I like Trader Joe's. They are one of the few places that haven't been price-gouging under the guise of the pandemic. That one store could be lovely, or it's the east coast being lovely I hope.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Preen Dog posted:

Ok safety or whatever but... as a filter toucher myself most of this complaint is total bullshit. This is a newer retail store on the main level, doors opening to the outside, attached to a highrise apartment building. The CO2 level never deviates from background levels, ever, from infiltration and convection alone, even if you packed the store and turned the air handlers off. Filter efficiency means nothing re: covid when you have customers close together and direct transmission is much easier than a droplet surviving a trip through the loop. And the amount of outside ventilation/recirculation is completely dictated by cooling demand. There is no "economy mode" because the system wants to use outside air as a source of free cooling and probably doesn't have a heating mode anyway. If it's very hot or freezing outside, the recirculation will increase, but even in the worst case still have many times more ventilation than a detached family house. Even if the space were plastic-wrapped airtight with the people inside, it would take days for the CO2 to reach uncomfortable levels because of the huge plan and high ceilings. It's not a WWII submarine.

tldr; the air conditioning works the way it does because anything else would make the store too hot or cold and I can't change it for you because you read some stuff online. And no, better filters are expensive. You felt perfectly safe to walk around outside, well, the air quality in here is way better.

e. Places where CO2 or contaminants are a genuine concern are in flat structures without any kind of forced air conditioning, and doors that rarely open. Schools, low-rise residential, small offices, etc. Particularly where passive ventilation has been minimized/sabotaged to save on heating hosts in colder climates.

this is a weird post because while you're not necessarily wrong about CO2 levels in a space open to the outdoors, you seem to have totally missed that this person was just using them as a proxy for measuring the interior air change rate

"You can't use CO2 levels this way so they should figure out another way to show that the air change rate is too low" would have sufficed. The rest of your post is essentially just an admission that enclosed interior spaces can't be safe during a pandemic, so, uh.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


DoomTrainPhD posted:

I like Trader Joe's. They are one of the few places that haven't been price-gouging under the guise of the pandemic. That one store could be lovely, or it's the east coast being lovely I hope.

Trader Joe is owned by Aldi and is just an Aldi store gussied up to liberal suburbanite standards. No more, no less.

FistEnergy
Nov 3, 2000

DAY CREW: WORKING HARD

Fun Shoe
Aldi owns

Joey Steel
Jul 24, 2019

Lidl for that matter as well.

Thorn Wishes Talon
Oct 18, 2014

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 24 days!)

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?
I'm also kind of surprised by that letter, because the Trader Joe's near me is unequivocally the best grocery store in this area when it comes to COVID restrictions. There's always a line around the parking lot because they have strict occupancy limits, they won't make any exceptions for people who aren't wearing masks, and they even block off individual aisles for a few minutes if there are too many people crowding into one.

It's not a big store so I'm doubtful that it's even really "safe" in there, but they're trying way harder than any other store in the area.

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

Trader Joe is owned by Aldi and is just an Aldi store gussied up to liberal suburbanite standards. No more, no less.

nah they're separate companies. Two brothers from the same family are the owners, respectively

edit: i stand corrected. Two companies under the same umbrella

oxsnard has issued a correction as of 21:18 on Feb 27, 2021

Thorn Wishes Talon
Oct 18, 2014

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 24 days!)

Paradoxish posted:

I'm also kind of surprised by that letter, because the Trader Joe's near me is unequivocally the best grocery store in this area when it comes to COVID restrictions. There's always a line around the parking lot because they have strict occupancy limits, they won't make any exceptions for people who aren't wearing masks, and they even block off individual aisles for a few minutes if there are too many people crowding into one.

It's not a big store so I'm doubtful that it's even really "safe" in there, but they're trying way harder than any other store in the area.

their restrictions probably also made them even more popular

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


oxsnard posted:

nah they're separate companies. Two brothers from the same family are the owners, respectively

Aldi Sud owns the Aldi branded stores in the US, AldI Nord has Trader Joe IIRC

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003
yeah you're right lol whatever both stores are great. I've heard lidl is awesome too. Why are germans so good at making grocery stores?

Preen Dog
Nov 8, 2017

Paradoxish posted:

"You can't use CO2 levels this way so they should figure out another way to show that the air change rate is too low" would have sufficed

You can measure air changes by CO2. More: "the rate of air changes is high by design, and the allegation that it's not is spurious". Whistleblowing on the man is awesome but try to make it credible.

I think the allegation is intended to get personal attention for his music career.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9cEpUq4mps&t=16s

punished milkman
Dec 5, 2018

would have won

Lmao

Buck Turgidson
Feb 6, 2011

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Preen Dog posted:

You can measure air changes by CO2. More: "the rate of air changes is high by design, and the allegation that it's not is spurious". Whistleblowing on the man is awesome but try to make it credible.

I think the allegation is intended to get personal attention for his music career.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9cEpUq4mps&t=16s

lmfao

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MysteriousStranger
Mar 3, 2016
My "vacation" is a euphemism for war tourism in Ukraine for some "bloody work" to escape my boring techie job and family.

Ask me about my warcrimes.

oxsnard posted:

yeah you're right lol whatever both stores are great. I've heard lidl is awesome too. Why are germans so good at making grocery stores?

Aldi is sort of "the norm" for non American stores. Go to any non American grocery store and they are loving amazing. There are some good American chains, but the ones most people know kinda suck.

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