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turd in my singlet
Jul 5, 2008

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Maximo Roboto posted:

The petit bourgeoise is revolting

Finally, something we agree on

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turd in my singlet
Jul 5, 2008

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samantonio posted:

Elon Musk just tweeted about it. ROCKET. SHIP. BLAST.

200 here we come!

over 190 already lmao

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is bitcoin going down bc tons of nerds are liquidating to buy meme stocks? if so, lmao

turd in my singlet
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they're on to us :tinfoil: e: dam slow af

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once the fervor dies down a bit i wonder if this big crowd of online dorks who are disillusioned with the system and just discovered mass action will be more open to leftist ideas

who has an established WSB account and wants to start pushing unions? lol

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Petey posted:

idk man i said this elsewhere but i think the lesson of this day is "we can gently caress up finance capital with well-targeted street-level capital" and that is not going to lead to Leftism

if the big powers come down and limit this kind of behavior that might radicalize people into left or right populism but it remains to be seen which side of the knife it falls on

no it's not going to lead to leftism on it's own but if there's an actual effort to educate people some of that populism might get redirected into actual organization efforts

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When I looked at wsb earlier today there was a big topic suggesting kicking out anyone who hadn't been a member for at least 6 months so the subreddit thing may just be that

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Jul 5, 2008

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Grapplejack posted:

I wonder if this will radicalize people

low key sex master posted:

I mean I feel like the people taking this seriously already are

watching capital blatantly manipulate its way out of this certainly is gonna have an impact lol

we need to tell these people about strikes and unions

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Jul 5, 2008

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i wonder if the memestonk ban is only for accounts with a history of memestonking or if it's a blanket measure for all users

like i could see them implementing a "pattern memestonker" rule like they do with "pattern daytraders"

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Cup Runneth Over posted:

this suggests to me that it was way more than melvin capital caught up in this

there are reports of others but it's still small potatoes compared to the size of the market as a whole

the real problem is that the little people are acting collectively, and even worse, winning. these things must be stopped

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Epic High Five posted:

content merely to have raised awareness lol

also horizonal structures are basically immediately infiltrated by liberals and cops

Mixed horizontal and vertical structures can solve for the failures of either form if set up right. Cybernetics (which is the science of control systems as a whole, not just computers) offers interesting lessons about this

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SKULL.GIF posted:

Telegram can't handle that much volume

Someone make a decentralized social networking platform built off bittorrent

turd in my singlet
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Gonna look into this thanks

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dead gay comedy forums posted:

anyone using robinhood can verify if that poo poo is real

My stonks are still there

Replies to the tweet suggest it might have been margin calls not actual stonks which apparently they are allowed to move for you

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Penisaurus Sex posted:

LF was originally a bunch of Ron Paul weirdos who trolled themselves into being Maoists.

CSPAM was originally a bunch of Leftist weirdos who trolled themselves into betting on pennystocks and silver.

lol

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Jul 5, 2008

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Jel Shaker posted:

when i see NOK i keep thinking people are talking about North Korea

Every time I see RH my brain tries to say Red Hat

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Jul 5, 2008

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i'm all in on NOK, BB, AMC with my little spending money. should i make any moves today (out of those and into GME or VXX or w/e)? current intent is just to HODL

also i'm still on RH, is there a consensus on moving to another platform? how hard is that lol

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Atrocious Joe posted:

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buying GME is fascism btw. you're all fascists now.

he's probably not wrong about some of the WSB people but takes like this really miss just how mixed the memestonk crowd is and just how little investment you need to make to join in

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Atrocious Joe posted:

the petite-bourgeoisie can break either fascist or socialist

if the fascists are actively recruiting them and the socialists refuse to engage with them, they will definitely go fascist

has anyone had success engaging with WSB-types? where is a good place to do that? just going right in to WSB is an option but we'd need a lot of voices to get through the noise and the mods may decide to just ban all socialism chat

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god this poo poo is loving killing the left

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MysteriousStranger posted:

Movies were never going to go away because people love movies. Gamestop was always sort of stupid but people love them physical game copies to display on the wall and would pay 10 bucks just for a box.

is it time to invest in vinyl record companies? bc it's the exact same business model

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spacemang_spliff posted:

being like "wsb is fascist" on the day we could see capitalists suiciding because they lost billions is like going up to a waitress on her smoke break and loudly fake coughing

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Outing himself is probably a good idea at this point. If anything happens to him everyone will know who to blame

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so if we're supposed to be getting out of RH where should i go exactly?

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Chamale posted:

I hear Vanguard and TDA are not loving their customers

thanks

gently caress a 75$ fee though, with my level of investment it's a better deal to just cash out :/

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fits my needs posted:

there’s gonna be a buncha fake speakeasies too aren’t there...... lmao

i feel like the 21st century version of this would be a weed bar

not a dispensary but like a social place to smoke, since afaik these still aren't really legal even in recreational-legal states

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net work error posted:

Posting on the tax form page

love to be misclassified as an "independent contractor"

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I remember reading a story on the forums about some important piece of PPE used by sailors to repair steam lines, that used to be extremely heavy duty, but was replaced by cheap plastic things that failed after 40 minutes or something. so for big repairs they'd have to send sailor after sailor in to certain death for a job that used to just take like one or two people and was relatively safe

Anyone else remember that post? Was that real? lol

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Shipon posted:

if there is one thing i could magically will into happening like thanos, it would be eradicating all oil from the planet, would solve an absolute ton of geopolitical problems

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/09/fracking-oceanic-methane-hydrates-global-energy-landscape-bonanza/

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I guess cybernetics chat moved in here since r-slur-chat has taken over the theory thread again

Re: demiurge hyperintelligence poo poo: on the same level of "totally unprovable" but an interesting alternate perspective on this is idea that consciousness is the result of the kind of information and control flows that allow for purposeful action in response to the environment. Looked at in that way, a corporate PR department gathering information, reporting the analysis to the executives, who then tell R&D what kind of product to develop, is conscious in the same way that an animal changing it's behavior to find food in a changing environment is, though the scale and specific mechanics of that consciousness are quite different. I haven't gotten into Stafford Beer's stuff enough to have come across this myself but I've heard this idea attributed to him.

Taking that as an assumption paints a somewhat different picture: capitalism itself isn't the higher order intelligence, it's the ecosystem that corporate intelligences exist within. Corporations share similar modes of existence (extracting surplus value from labor, reinvesting that value into capital and "innovation", hoarding excess value) and coordinate in a social manner to reproduce the environment they exist in (via the state and financial institutions), but they also compete with each other and will happily stab each other in the back for slices of market share.

The fact that capitalism itself isn't intelligent is visible in its inability to meaningfully respond to climate change, pandemics, and repeated economic crises. For example the Western pandemic response is just the flailing of corporate entities forcing states to "open r up" as much as possible and just eating the damage from losses in the labor force because they fear the damage to their way of life from a lockdown and "handouts" will be worse.

We should probably have a cybernetics thread lol

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animist posted:

i would definitely high-post in a cybernetics thread

also, I think it's helpful to let go of the idea of there being one level of "real intelligences", where everything else is "systems". That's kinda positivist... it gets you into arguments about who the "real" intelligences are.

instead, approach things dialectically. Just describe each level of the system in terms of its relations to other levels.

ant colonies are systems of ants, but can be considered alive themselves. similarly, corporations are systems of humans, but can be considered alive themselves.

humans are systems of cells, ecosystems are systems of biological life forms, capitalist economies are systems of corporations. and so on.

Marxism is basically a set of battle-tested techniques for giving humans more steering power over your system. This lets them let out pressure and do more long-term planning than is possible in capitalist frameworks, like bourgeois democracy.

It works, too. Look at China rn. Barely any covid deaths, executing billionaires when they step out of line, belt and road. Turns out that when you get Marxists like Xi Jinping in charge, you can get stuff done.

agree with this broadly, but the a system that can respond to the environment and remain a coherent entity does seem meaningfully different than just a complex system. it's not an either-or thing though: the whole idea of Beer's 'VSM diagnosis' was to identify areas within an organization that interfered with the capacity for intelligent behavior; and observation of the natural world (and corporate world) demonstrates there are many levels and types of 'intelligence'

Gods_Butthole posted:

Hell yeah.

Also there's a theory thread? Is it the communism thread?

yeah the 'spectrum' thread but don't read it bc it keeps getting derailed by the absolute dumbest drama i've ever seen


seems to be some interest in a cybernetics thread so DM me if y'all have ideas for / want to make the OP. i've got a broad grasp of it but haven't done any organizing with cybernetics and don't work in a related field or anything, just started gooning out about it about 6 months ago lol

turd in my singlet has issued a correction as of 17:53 on May 4, 2021

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its actually physically impossible for a textbook to contain wrong information. the structure of wood pulp rejects untruths so the letters just fall right off the page if you try to print them

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I done started a cybernetics thread, sharing the link since I know some posters ITT were interested.

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Rectal Death Adept posted:

Cops around here park their cruisers in speed traps all day but they are empty. They serve to slow traffic though because everyone reacts out of fear when they see the cars. I'm never sure what the deal is because it isn't one of those things where they direct traffic with their empty cruiser's lights or anything. Just that a notorious speed trap now only has the car with no cop.

I've wondered if it's an overtime scam and Officer Piggins has a GPS locator showing his cruiser was ready and on the job 72 hours that week while he was asleep at home or something.

They probably couldn't make any money off the speed trap since people would just slow down when they saw the car, but the people who live on that road kept complaining so they put a car out to shut them up

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OhFunny posted:

He's reading and stealing my posts :mad:

When do we get to the part where tanks shell washington until we implement communism

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Raine posted:

death to america

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lobster shirt posted:


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If your vehicle does not have a front camera, KidsAndCars recommends that you walk in front of your vehicle to check for potential dangers before you get in and start the ignition. And the organization said all toddlers should be accounted for any time someone is arriving or leaving your home to reduce the risk of an unattended child accidentally running into the path of a vehicle.

walking around my personal vehicle like it's an off-highway truck at a quarry, checking all the cameras, radioing my family to make sure they're secured, turning on the heavy machinery backup beep before backing out of my driveway and running over my wife's sedan that i forgot to secure and getting fined by OSHA

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https://twitter.com/NorthmanTrader/status/1415364212914851842?s=19

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net work error posted:

Buy less candles

This type of person lives exclusively to maximize their luxury and comfort, with literally no other concern in the world except optimizing their finances in support of that luxury and comfort

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punished milkman posted:

love the ultra user hostility where every app/subscription thing now just actively avoids having a “cancel plan” button, phone customer service link, cancel credit card button, or whatever. i assume all of the bitchmade data scientists out there have shown that this actually improves user retention which is kind of amusing. if you make an important task annoying or obtuse enough, people just won’t do it

the dsa is like this. i'm still paying dues bc i'm too lazy to send an email

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