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Yeah, this should be a lot handier. Google Sheets is fantastic for many things, but being a message board isn't one of them. Next round should go pretty smoothly, I think.
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C... posted:
 Sitting Councilmember "Overconfidence has lead more fools to their doom than any other venture." So says the Mother, so it is.
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Jan 16, 2021 15:56
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Shogeton posted:I got a bunch of folks interested to play IRL, and I'm feeling that if I find out a lot of the consequences for things, that's gonna give me an unfair advantage. So I'm going to bow out. Have fun everyone. Pity. Make sure to laugh at us a lot when we drive this over a cliff.
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Shogeton posted:I got a bunch of folks interested to play IRL, and I'm feeling that if I find out a lot of the consequences for things, that's gonna give me an unfair advantage. So I'm going to bow out. Have fun everyone. Sad to see you go, but fair enough. Have fun! 
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Jan 16, 2021 16:09
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Treasurer Proposal House Lethis will generously offer 3 coins in exchange for 1 vote for nay. This offer is primarily directed at House Cyforth, but it stands for any house willing to see the Mother's wisdom. Blessed be the Mother.
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Jan 16, 2021 17:30
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Covski posted:
 Sitting Council Member One fewer Yea vote is very similar to one Nay vote, is it not? Close enough to count?
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Jan 16, 2021 17:45
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Reminder that the deadline to send votes and to bargain for the current Dilemma is at 12 noon GMT/UTC tomorrow, or in about 18h from now.
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Jan 16, 2021 19:01
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 OK, I'm curious now. House Cyfoeth - I'm interested to hear your thoughts on the Dilemma. You've been really quiet for a while now. We'd appreciate your insight!
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Jan 16, 2021 21:07
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Jan 16, 2021 21:26
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Covski posted:
Senator The offer from house Lethis is generous indeed, and their prudence when dealing with a mineral whose characteristics are still unknown is commendable. House Cyforth believes that both the army and our doctors both work for the betterment of the kingdom, and so our opinion is mostly neutral in the matter. Personally I believe that our doctors deserve the equipment, and fancy the
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Jan 16, 2021 23:00
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Treasurer C... posted:
Big difference! It's about going on the record that will be preserved in the eternal annals of the kingdom, of being on the right side of history. Some of us don't treat the future of Ankist as a "game" to be "won", unlike others I do not care to mention. Blessed be the Mother.
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Reign of King Harald V, Dilemma 4, Resolution Vote Results posted:
Vote Outcome posted:
Reign of King Harald V, Dilemma 5 History of the Kingdom of Ankist posted:Storyline:  - Sitting Councilmember: Inadequately (also Treasurer)  - Sitting Councilmember: Nea - Treasurer/Navigator: Omobono - Sitting Councilmember: Fat Samurai (also Treasurer)  - Sitting Councilmember: eliasswift (also Treasurer) - Sitting Councilmember: Covski - Treasurer/Negotiator: megane Dilemma5 posted:
 A 48h voting window is now open! - Sitting Councilmembers can send me a PM/Email with their final decision. Please consult the OP if you need a refresher on the rules! - Treasurers can now start bribing. Please consult the OP if you need a refresher on the rules! - Senators are free to discuss the Dilemma and provide their feedback. Don't forget that every choice could have consequences that are not spelled out outright on the front of the card! Also, please remember that the thread is the main discussion platform for your vote intention - the Sheet is only to be used when discussing high level strategy, bargaining strategies and items on the sheet itself.
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Jan 17, 2021 12:30
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treasurer I think we should accept these fine people into our kingdom. Also we're +2 stability away from ending the game so, you know, let's get it down a bit. Anyone wanna sell some aye votes? (Also I'd offer to buy the latest sticker signature but I don't think House Daucus is interested in that)
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Jan 17, 2021 12:53
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I think House Gambol spent 3 coins, otherwise House Pinchay has discovered the secrets of alchemy and is creating gold out of thin air.
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Jan 17, 2021 13:14
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Fat Samurai posted:I think House Gambol spent 3 coins, otherwise House Pinchay has discovered the secrets of alchemy and is creating gold out of thin air. Whops, my bad! Fixing it now. (This may or may not be the narrative goal for one of the Houses that have not been picked, btw  )
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Jan 17, 2021 13:53
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Councilmember I am not comfortable with those who do not serve The Great Mother serving in our military. It is not clear they have Her interests in mind. Blessed be The Mother. Bellmaker fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Jan 17, 2021 |
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Jan 17, 2021 14:01
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Bellmaker posted:
Yes. They use the salad fork to eat meat. Who cares.
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Jan 17, 2021 14:23
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Omobono posted:
Senator These people do not deserve to be joined with the glorious kingdom which the Mother has helped create. If the council refuses to consider that which is necessary, then at the least they must accept that truth that allowing these Motherless fools into our army will only serve to pollute the moral core of Arkist. They should be sent on their way and ignored from here on out. In fact, I believe so strongly that I think House Lethe should open our coffers to the lesser houses to help them see the light in this matter. Blessed be the Mother Edit: Edited to remove some role-played extremism. SporkChan fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Jan 17, 2021 |
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Jan 17, 2021 15:13
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Hey, can we like, please be careful about not roleplaying gross fantasy and or just regular racism here thanks I do not want it and the cannibal stuff is real rear end racist tropes
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Jan 17, 2021 15:22
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Nea posted:Hey, can we like, please be careful about not roleplaying gross fantasy and or just regular racism here thanks I do not want it and the cannibal stuff is real rear end racist tropes I'm going to agree with this. Just because we're playing a backwards medieval society doesn't mean we have carte blanche to say that kind of stuff ourselves. Senator Honestly, I see no reason why we cannot accept their aid. As has been so bluntly pointed out, we have converted our red iron into surgical instruments, so we could use all the military might that we can get. I am obviously not the final say for House Pinchay, but I am all for an Aye vote myself.
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Jan 17, 2021 16:14
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I edited my post, it was not my intentions to offend anyone.
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Jan 17, 2021 16:20
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Second Cousin, Thrice removed I unfortunately must agree with our less than polite friend in Lethe at this moment, though the sitting member of House Pinchay may make the call. We know the people of our kingdom are hard-working and loyal, but can we say the same of these foreigners? Even with the best of intentions their ways are different than ours which may cause too much conflict on the workflow and, more importantly, in the midst of battle. I suggest a Nay vote.
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Nea posted:Hey, can we like, please be careful about not roleplaying gross fantasy and or just regular racism here thanks I do not want it and the cannibal stuff is real rear end racist tropes Fair enough. I didn't feel great writing it and was gonna start toning things down in the future anyway.
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Jan 17, 2021 16:59
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Omobono posted:
Sitting Councilmember I believe our brethren in Gambol have hit on a salient point. The Stability is getting dangerously low, and it might be a good time to remind the people exactly who rules the kingdom. However, no doubt this would render the Leader of this particular dilemma significantly unpopular with the masses. I'm leaning towards Aye, but unless I see some generous offers I don't feel comfortable investing more than 1 Power into that decision.
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Jan 17, 2021 18:07
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House Cyfoeth, Dukes of Coden Sitting Councilmember An old man, his nose red, a couple of pitchers of wine empty nearby, picks up feather and quill To SporkChan,of House Lethe I also find disgusting the Iskurs' custom of cutting boiled eggs the larger side first, but pretty much enjoy their wine. So, as you can see, I am divided on the issue. I worry, though, about the political ramifications of your decision. By choosing to ignore other cultures, we are stagnating, and our idle councilmen may turn to plotting and rebellion. There are already rumours of factions plotting to overthrow our King, and I feel that giving them something new to bicker about would result in a more peaceful life for all of us. I'm sure the Mother has guided House Lethe and their decision comes from the desire to make the Kingdom the best it can be, but I'm just an old man that prefers the rest of his life to pass without shocks and with plenty of wine. Of course, I could be convinced to either abstain or even support Lethe's decision, but I'd have to make sure my House and the Kingdom are in a good position, no matter the outcome of this decision. You don't know how annoying young people are with their "I would have done this, old people are always wrong, where is the wine...?" I'd die if I was deposed as Councilmember because of a bad decision. Blessed be the Mother.
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That's a positive sticker you know? An army/influence one judging from the text. Omobono fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Jan 17, 2021 |
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Jan 17, 2021 18:22
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Sitting Councilmember In that case I would be willing to invest up to 2 Power into an Aye vote, but not more than that for free.
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Senator One of the senator's from the Daucus contingent, a tall, lean man in a gray doublet, idly flips the pages of a book, its spine worn and cracked with use. "drat. I'll need to repair this binding soon. Ah, well. I've glue enough at the estate." He murmurs to himself. Sighing, he closes the book and lays it on the table. "Disdainful rhetoric aside, this matter certainly poses some interesting questions. On the one hand, it is undeniable that the Iksurs would bring new knowledge and culture into our fold, from which we would undoubtedly benefit. And yet...they have had some friction in the past with the Crann, who would doubtless take it amiss were they to be admitted to our fair lands on a more permit basis. An interesting dilemma indeed." OOC: Inadequately posted:The Stability is getting dangerously low... The stability is actually quite high. If it gets 2 higher than it is now, it hits max and the current reign will end with the King forced to abdicate. TravelLog fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Jan 17, 2021 |
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Jan 17, 2021 18:46
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Inadequately posted:
treasurer We in House Gambol wish for the ayes to have it, but unfortunately our latest spat with House Daucus left us a bit short of power right now. We thank House Pinchay for being willing to do what's right at a moment when we cannot. E: OOC: wow, people weren't kidding about stability being a bastard, I didn't expect it to shoot up 6 places like that. Omobono fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Jan 17, 2021 |
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Jan 17, 2021 18:53
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Senator To be frank, the political and societal outcomes of this decision are beyond me. I suggest we sit this one out and consolidate our power for a future vote where we have more at stake.
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Re: fantasy racism (everything was already solved amicably before I got to read it, although I agree it's probably a good idea to avoid real life offensive stereotypes). There definitely *are* some elements of "everyone who is not us is a barbarian" feeling to the game - less in a colonial way and more in an ancient greek/roman one - and certain Houses especially have some very harsh social/xenophobic views (The narrative objective for one of the Houses we have not picked is...to get rid of the outcasts in the kingdom); and I expect House Lethe to become quite touchy if/when the argument of religion comes out. As mentioned in the Content Disclaimer, though, this kind of thing is usually handled in a "decent" way; the game world is not exactly egalitarian, but you can see it's not out of malice (there is a decent amount of representation, for example, both in the lore and in the art). EDIT: in lighter news - I love House Pinchay's discord chat. This is probably between 25 to 30% of the content: 
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Sitting Councilmember At the table prepared for the head of House Daucus, a man with half moon spectacles glances over a pile of papers. Log sheets, accounting reports, just a general understanding of everything within the Duchy of Olwyn. He grumbles, to himself, complaining that he has to do all the math himself. You get the impression he'd rather do it all himself despite his complaints. He looks like an annoyed librarian who knows he's the only one with enough of a passion for books to properly do the job. After some more note taking and math, and he finally looks up from his papers. "I say, so many houses were pushing to send adventurers out to find the map, and the first time we encounter someone else we get letters back of them calling these people barbarians! It seems they don't quite understand what adventuring entails." He said. He put on a small smile, one of someone who probably doesn't smile often. "I jest though. I do believe we all knew what we were getting into when we agreed to go out into the Southern lands. I must ask what the issue is with allowing these nomads to support our military? We're not asking them to marry into our families. We're asking them to help escort our military through a land that already doesn't like us, to keep us safe and give us understanding of the deserts. If our soldiers are butting heads on the ground, maybe they should be more open minded if they don't want to die in the sands." The Councilman turns to look at the Councilman of House Lethe, "I am surprised that you are so against letting others in. I would think that our dearest Mother would love for you to find new peoples and let her guidance spread among them... Plus, let us remember that currently the world sees your influence with the freed woman and the trade deals as a black mark. Why not let our people see that you do care about the might of our country instead?"
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Treasurer They do not serve the Mother, so they are not welcome. It is as simple as that. Our military does not need unruly conscripts, and our people do not need the strain. Further, we certainly do not see standing up for the rights of a human being as a black mark. We do what is right, what the Mother wills, not what pleases others. As for... adventuring, as you call it... we made it crystal clear that we would not support such an idiotic venture. It would be expensive, dangerous, and pointless. Ancient tombs are inevitably full of trinkets and keepsakes, yes, but House Lethe can say from long experience that whatever isn't worthless trash is, instead, heretical and destructive. We have concerns here. We shall back our words with actions. House Lethe offers 2 coins to any house who will put (exactly) 1 power AGAINST the motion.
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Senator Strange, noble lord, that worship of a deity be hereditary. It has been some time since my Sunday schooling, but does the Mother not preach conversion to her faith? Solad was brought into the kingdom of Ankist in living memory; are we heretic egg-eating outsider barbarians as well? eliasswift posted:
This is true wisdom, and I applaud its application. I should hate to see the King deposed so early in his reign; I believe that we should focus on the Realm enduring, today and tomorrow.
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megane posted:
Sitting Councilmember Here's the thing, I feel you're much more interested in this vote that you're saying, so I feel you can do more. Doesn't the Mother preach generosity? It's time to show it: House Cyfoeth will abstain for 6 coins.
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House Lethe... I worry you might be acting against your own interests in a bunch of ways, to be honest. First off: Consider the example of the eight Saint Daughters. They represent both a virtue, and the avoidance of a vice, an excess. They represent balance. So, it would only make sense that House Lethe would favor bringing things back into a balance, and a Nay vote would send the state of our kingdom dangerously out of balance. And don't forget: people can convert. I'm sure House Lethe would be in a position to tell our new additions to Ankist all about the one true goddess. (Blessed be the Mother.) Second: From a more secular, political point of view, I've always held that House Lethe tends to uphold a Moderate agenda. By this, Nay makes little progress in such an agenda, as the amount lost from Influence is less than the amount gained from Morale, due to momentum. So why favor destabilizing things further? Fat Samurai posted:
O_O What will you do if no one pays such a princely price? Quackles fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jan 17, 2021 |
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Quackles posted:O_O Sitting Councilmember That’s a very good question, but I really believe the deal benefits House Lethe as much as House Cyfoeth, and I hope they will realize it. They have a good chance to gain prestige and glory for their house, but that chance might pass and allies now may become enemies unless their friendship is secured soon. Fat Samurai fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Jan 17, 2021 |
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Fat Samurai posted:
Treasurer  Can we pay in crowdsourced cat paintings? Anyways, current agenda points going left to right from the image on the house sheet (which I assume is the same for everyone), minus the gold rankings: Opportunist: they've been screwed right now with only wealth under the mid marker. They should try to reduce as many resources as possible right now. 4 points. Opulent: on the other hand, they're opening their champagne with 4 resources in the top half. I'd consider making a play at deposing the king, depending on cash reserves for coin scoring. 14 points. Moderate: unstable situation. 3 resources still in their zone, but the wrong dilemma could boost one or 2 outside it and end the game from high stability. I'd make an alliance with the Opportunist and delay the game. 10 points. Greedy: as with moderates, an unstable situation, with 3 in their zone and 2 that could move in, while they only want 2. On the other hand, they don't really care about resources, they care about hard cash. I'd delay the game if I were them. 7 points. Rebel: great potential with 3 resources in their zone, the other 2 are close, and up to two other agendas that might want to get the king out. Backstabbing the king right now would be a fantastic idea, especially with an influence or morale dilemma. 17 points. Extremist: fairly good situation right now, if they can keep the kingdom bankrupt. I'd consider making a play at the king with welfare, knowledge or influence to lock in the extremes. 13 points.
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Something people have missed, I think, is that Rebels get an extra crave from King abdication. Now, who was the last one to see that card pass when choosing hidden agendas
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We act in the interests of the Kingdom and the Mother, lord Daucus, not our own. Yes, it is possible that the outsiders might eventually convert. But they might not. I am not willing to wager the safety and stability of the kingdom on guesswork. Fat Samurai posted:Here's the thing, I feel you're much more interested in this vote that you're saying, so I feel you can do more. Doesn't the Mother preach generosity? It's time to show it: House Cyfoeth will abstain for 6 coins. No, I'm not paying you a king's ransom to do something you were already thinking of doing, and which directly gains you a sizeable amount of power besides. Greed does not become you. e: Also, the Discord server link seems to be expired! megane fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Jan 17, 2021 |
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