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 Sitting Councilmember Having the peasantry poison themselves, or having them burn food in the middle of a famine? Not exactly a palatable choice. If this "scholar" is to be believed, that is - and I remain sceptical. If nothing else, the takeaway here seems obvious: Trade with heathens and foreigners only leads to calamity, hopefully we can take to heart the lesson the Mother is trying to teach her. All praise be unto her.
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Feb 23, 2021 15:42
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 Senator (Cartoonishly turning out his pockets) 0 still counts as "all our power", right?
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 Update says Pinchay got 5 power left, was that an error? Anyways you can't commit 0 power to Aye, it's minimum 1 by game rules, so the imprecise wording can't bite Cyfoeth this time. Note 1: all Cyfoeth's gold should mean 4 total, right? Note 2: I was expecting Cyfoeth to go hard here. They totally have a welfare house achievement. EDIT: Note 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgflCE7zRpc Omobono fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Feb 23, 2021 |
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Omobono posted:
Senator Yes, it would seem that is correct. My mistake. I thought we had spent all our power somehow. Disregard.
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Feb 23, 2021 16:52
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Senator House Cyfoeth has always been straightforward with our intentions to help above all else, apart from potentially Her Majesty Queen Hypatia, the people of Ankist. If the choice is between allowing grain to not only be burned but in doing so poison the very fields themselves, or not doing that, I think the choice should be abundantly clear. Besides, who wants their house's chronicle to include the notion that they let poisoned the land of Ankist itself? That would be an affront not just to the Kingdom, but to the Mother herself and the glorious realm given by the Mother to our people. House Cyfoeth simply understands the gravity of the situation and would like to act with the urgency needed.
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Blastinus posted:
Navigator cartoonishly turns out his pockets coins scatter everywhere Quackles posted:
I appreciate your thoughts! We're of course open to counter-proposals; and this is of course not limited to House Daucus. • It can be any two Storylines; those were chosen because they had similar symbols for MSPainting Pogs. • The "dilemmas of two stories" restriction is to avoid exactly the situation we've found ourselves in for the Red Iron Storyline: • • Let's say we draw a card where Enkhal invites us to a big birthday party. • • If Gambol, Pinchay or Daucus sign it we're at two signatures and presumptively 'in the money' for Majority Signing Bonus. • • If Lethe or Cyfoeth sign it, they're in the signature club and either in for a many-way draw or in competition for two signatures. • • So every House is incentivized to compete for every potential signing event on every storyline. • • It would be to the benefit of two Houses to give one another an unfair advantage in one competition in exchange for abdicating in another. Iterated game theory! • • We can rarely (  ) know if a Dilemma is the one that advances the plot or not, hence the more general "involved in that storyline".• Using pogs to force or counter an abdication seems like a spicy flavour to add to the Dilemma gumbo. • Without revealing details, Gambol has a very vague Narrative Achievement. We thought maybe it was Floriando-related, but nothing panned out there. Is the Daucus achievement straightforward? C... fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Feb 23, 2021 |
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Feb 23, 2021 17:20
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Actually while you can never know for sure, a dilemma that will advance a storyline will share its front picture (the you wanna help the peasants AYE/NAY side) with the latest storyline card. So for example this dilemma might advance the bread storyline, but not the smugglers/"barbarian" neighbours one.
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Feb 23, 2021 17:35
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Sighence posted:
Foreman Sounds good to me. Deal accepted.
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Feb 23, 2021 17:47
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Navigator I did say that people stealing the black wheat was one problem solving another... If only they had stolen more. Many eat the rye bread, and none have suffered ill effects. It's an invasive species which germinates through fire, a fascinating adaptation that one man calls toxic, without presenting evidence. But enough science - this is politics! Sighence posted:
We'll take all your gold! Stop burning stuff, you peasants!
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Feb 23, 2021 17:48
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^^^^ Inadequately posted:
Witnessed! That Italian Guy fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Feb 23, 2021 |
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Feb 23, 2021 17:52
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Councilor Well that was something. See you next reign. Proposing king Blythe the second. Unless House Lethe would be willing for an hard commit on Nay? 7 power us, 7 power you, flip a coin for who gets leader and the negative sticker?
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Updated agenda rankings after the last deal, same assumptions as before. Opportunist, no power, 3rd place gold, 9 points Rebel, 2nd place power, 2nd place gold, +1 open agenda, 17 points Opulent, no power, no gold, 14 points  Moderate, 3rd place power, 4th place gold, -1 open agenda, 10 points Greedy, 1st place power, 1st place gold, -3 open agenda, 18 points If they're extremist it's up to 13 points instead. If they're opulent 19 points instead. So, uh, I don't think Lethe will be willing to commit. Just an hunch.
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Omobono posted:Updated agenda rankings after the last deal, same assumptions as before. Would Gambol not be first in coins?
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Feb 23, 2021 19:02
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Bellmaker posted:Would Gambol not be first in coins? We came for the deal a minute too late. 8 coin us, 10 coins Lethe E: Inadequately posted:
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Bellmaker posted:Would Gambol not be first in coins? The Cyfoeth purse was clawed away from us. Pinched, even!
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Feb 23, 2021 19:03
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C... posted:The Cyfoeth purse was clawed away from us. Pinched, even! Mmm my mistake, too many seafaring houses ⛵️ 🦞
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Feb 23, 2021 19:05
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Speed was indeed of the essence and it turns out taking time to rig up a more fanciful comment let the deal be snatched away by about 1 minute.
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Feb 23, 2021 19:09
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You snooze you lose and it was honestly funny. I don't know what Pinchay is getting out of the deal. If the Daucus report is accurate they're locking in last place for better crown rewards and resetting the board (fair, we did it a couple reigns ago); possibly they're getting an house achievement? Bottom influence might be one of theirs, I doubt it's top welfare. E: since "I don't know what they're getting" is a touch passive-aggressive (understatement): the tone was not intended, sorry, I realized it after posting. Just doing some speculation.
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scavy131 posted:Speed was indeed of the essence and it turns out taking time to rig up a more fanciful comment let the deal be snatched away by about 1 minute. Worst part was I had the comment open in the edit bay for 10+ minutes while I chatted with Omobono in Discord. Very funny times in Ankist!
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The argument boiled down to: someone is going to get that deal so we should snatch it up to get first place
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Senator We see no reason to interfere in Cyfoeth's righteous affairs. Our forepersons said previously that Mhuir selling us poisoned grain would be tantamount to an act of war, but I am sure even they would not have foreseen this level of treachery. Mhuir will reap what they have sown.  Also an artist (That Italian Guy) updated Lethe's coat of arms, but my Latin is a bit rusty. I am sure it is quite flattering
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Feb 23, 2021 21:03
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Bellmaker posted:
How lovely!
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If any other House has found their inner motto, I'm up to update theirs coat of arms too! In case there was any doubt, "Expectamus atque Auctoritatem Congerimus", the revised motto for Lethe means We Pass and Gather Power
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C... posted:• Without revealing details, Gambol has a very vague Narrative Achievement. We thought maybe it was Floriando-related, but nothing panned out there. Is the Daucus achievement straightforward? It's... kind of straightforward. I get the feeling all the Narrative Achievements are rather cryptic. Now then. Mostly Accurate Senate Status Report brought to you by House Daucus Power/Coins House Cyfoeth: 8 Power, 4 Coins + 3 banked House Lethe: 9 Power, 10 Coins + 5 banked House Gambol: 8 Power, 8 Coins + 4 banked House Daucus: 2 Power, 4 Coins + 7 banked House Pinchay: 5 Power, 1 Coin + 5 banked If my memory serves, banked coins are lost at the end of a reign. If this causes an abdication, the following results are guaranteed: House Cyfoeth: ? Power (much less than 8, probably), 0 Coins House Pinchay: 0 Power, 5 Coins The following results are predicted: Power bonuses: Lethe (+2), Gambol (+1) Coin bonuses: Lethe (1st), Gambol (2nd), Pinchay (3rd) Pressure Rating Medium - This one could be a reign-ender, but things are never certain... they seem to have solidified pretty quickly, though. Hidden Agenda Prediction House Cyfoeth is giving their all! They have a mission and they're here to see it through. Agenda: Opulent or Rebel (70-30 chance) Explanation: As first pick, and with a history of choosing Opulent, House Cyfoeth would naturally seek to continue their streak. However, there's a chance they're Rebel with how far they're pushing this vote right now. House Lethe is biding their time, as suiting their new motto. Agenda: Extremist or Greedy (60-40) Explanation: House Lethe has favored Extremist and Greedy in their past picks. However, if they predicted a game end at this point, and they were Greedy, they wouldn't have banked their money. So I'm leaning Extremist. (also Extremist is a Prestige-bearing Agenda compared to Greedy.) House Gambol almost got House Cyfoeth's deal - oh well. They still look set to prosper, either way. Agenda: Rebel or Greedy (70-30) Explanation: House Gambol has been Rebel a lot, so they'd naturally lean that way. They've also been Extremist before, but since they pick 3rd, I doubt they'd get Extremist before it was snatched up by House Lethe. So they might be Greedy, but it's unlikely. House Daucus has been blindsided, but things will work out for us. They always do. Agenda: Eating Wheaties House Pinchay is betting that this will cause an abdication crisis. Maybe then they'll be able to get a better Agenda this time around! Agenda: Opportunist Explanation: This one's guaranteed. I think they're in on the deal because they get an achievement tick out of it (though I'm not sure what), and a new agenda if they're lucky. Seriously, Opportunist suuuuucks.
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I really don't see how this doesn't end the reign, there would need to be an hidden morale or wealth penalty greater than the welfare boost. Or an hidden influence hit of 2 more than the welfare boost. Oh well, we'll take our free crave, second place plus that isn't bad.
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Omobono posted:I really don't see how this doesn't end the reign, there would need to be an hidden morale or wealth penalty greater than the welfare boost.
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Treasurer We really ought to convince the peasants to grow asparagus or something. This wheat is causing far more problems than it's worth. As for the political implications, er, life comes at you fast?
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Reign of Queen Hypatia I, Dilemma 3, Resolution Vote Results posted:
Vote Outcome posted:
The end of Queen Hypatia I's kingdom. Houses - Final scores posted:
Prestige/Crave Rankings House Lethe(12), Dukes of Natar: 8x  , 2x House Daucus(5), Dukes of Olwyn: 8x , 3xHouse Gambol(2), Dukes of Solad: 8x , 4xHouse Pinchay(7), Dukes of Gamam: 6x , 3xHouse Cyfoeth(4), Dukes of Coden: 6x , 1xNew King's reign - Setup posted:Chronicle Aging:  (P:9, C:10)- Foreman/Sitting Councilmember: Blastinus (also Treasurer) (P:9, C:10)- Sitting Councilmember: C... - Treasurer/Navigator: LPFinale   (P:8, C:10)- Sitting Councilmember: scavy131 (also Treasurer)   (P:8, C:10)- High Scholar/Sitting Councilmember: oldskool (also Treasurer)   (P:8, C:10)- Sitting Councilmember: megane - Treasurer/Negotiator: Bellmaker Hidden Agendas & Picking Order posted:
But wait...there's more! Future Ruler, Dilemma1 posted:
Is it completely random? Or is there a method to this? 
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Senator *Still wearing his thief outfit* Bwa what is that? Jeez, I knew maps don't come with instruction manuals but this is ridiculous. Proposing a secondary motions to fire our cartographers and hire new ones, the council should not be the one deliberating on this. Not without recommendations. Edit 1: ok that bread situation is kinda troubling, the hell did they sell us, zombie apocalypse bread? [ooc]With magically engineered prions[/ooc]? Edit 1 part 2: If anybody got anything here? Otherwise we could all call this a bye, pass and gather power, and flip a coin. Omobono fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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Omobono posted:Edit 1: ok that bread situation is kinda troubling, the hell did they sell us, zombie apocalypse bread? [ooc]With magically engineered prions[/ooc]?
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Senator House Gambol appears to love to take other's credit when credit is due. I hope Cyfoeth remembers who worked with them during our late Queen's reign and who did not. Queen Hypathia the Granulous, perhaps? It feels like her entire reign was about grain... and stainy rain falling mainly on the plain. Bellmaker fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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Hey we were 1 single minute late to accepting a deal that didn't include anything on signing rights (meaning we still would have chosen ourselves). We still worked with them for *50/50 on this one by the way. E: can you guys counterpick rebel this time around? We'd like to pick something else. Omobono fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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 Well that's.... worrying. Definitely something up with that. I had oft advised not jumping to conclusions, but let's maybe conclude full-body staining is a bad sign. Bellmaker posted:
Is that how it appears? As I recall, House Gambol tried to invent a new currency to give away literally exactly this - our signing interest in the other Storylines - and no one wanted to make a deal. Besides, we had publicly agreed to go all-in in exchange for all of Cyfoeth's money - which at the time of agreement was zero coins. Omobono posted:
 There are two roads on this map, which point at Aye and Nay. The Nay road has a mountain-sized scorpion guarding it, whereas the Aye road is only guarded by ... mashed potatoes?
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What a weird sequence to try to interpret. Too much food and stability causes an abdication but the card is explicit in there still not being enough food and an entire new underclass of people forming. I cannot imagine a universe where Hypathia is thought well of, even if she technically took the actions that would lead to both less starvation and less of the weird infection. She'd likely unfairly face blame for both. Hypathia the Drab, for her overall milquetoast na------wait, toast is also made of bread, the whole focus of her reign. Drab, ineffective and related to bread. It's perfect. Hypathia the Milquetoast After one queen died from not understanding new art, and another queen was kind of a downer, I think some kind of flimflamming, odious twit would weasel their way into power, possibly by playing off new tensions. King Barwick Is a name that just oozes pomposity, yet would have it's origins in coming from a barley field outside of town. That wretched bastard. Probably made his fortune being in the one agricultural house with regular bread.
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That's a swamp. C... posted:Is that how it appears? As I recall, House Gambol tried to invent a new currency to give away literally exactly this - our signing interest in the other Storylines - and no one wanted to make a deal. We're still thinking about it - please bear with us. Quackles fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Feb 25, 2021 |
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High Scholar  I don't know about the rest of you but I see the same general pathway at the top right of the actual Golden Map that I see at the bottom left leading towards Nay on this dreck the cartographers have "interpreted".
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Sitting Councilmember I think perhaps we shouldn't be too hard on a ruler who clearly had the people so closely in mind. Perhaps Queen Hypatia the Generous? I suggest a tried and tested name for our next monarch, proposing either Ommad II, or Harald VI for our next sovereign. Sometimes the people need to see continuity in the line of succession. That map does indeed present quite a choice. Do we take the route through swamp or through mountain? Both roads look treacherous. With regards to Ashers? I give the superstitions about them little credence, less even than the tales of a single witch in the woods. They aren't prone to outbursts because of their ashen color or the food they eat, they're prone to outbursts because the poor live on the mean edge of survival and that is to be expected of one who has to fight for their daily bread.
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